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1999-01-07 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Bill Kingsbury wrote: > > I told her that I was investigating a story from a 1909 Phoenix > newspaper article about the Smithsonian Institution's having > excavated rock-cut vaults in the Grand Canyon where Egyptian > artefacts had been discovered,

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1999-01-06 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Hawk wrote: >> Not all tribes were foragers and gatherers...many farmed...how do you >> think the Pilgrims learned to grow corn, and fertilize it with fish? > >Fairy tale Do you think Europeans didn't know how to farm until Indians taught >them? Some Euro

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1999-01-06 Thread Bill Kingsbury
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/canyon.txt Archeological Coverups? by David Hatcher Childress Originally placed on the KeelyNet BBS on May

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1999-01-06 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Thank you, H. Dee Brown's book is an outstanding work on the subject. But many of our conservative friends are leery of reading anything favorable about "minority" Americans because they're afraid that it might be an example of politically correct propaganda. Sure. During the

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1999-01-06 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld has the stronger arguments in this exchange. But in fairness to Hawk, I think he is not arguing that Native American culture was not without merit...just that European civilization brought with it certain tech advantages... OK. I'm glad that some of you on the lis

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1999-01-06 Thread H. Caulfield
-Caveat Lector- >For a real wild history of America, read the Book of Mormon.< A very good non-fiction book about the native American wars is "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown. It's a classic. -- At first there was nothing. Then God said 'Let there be light!' Then there was still n

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1999-01-06 Thread Hawk
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > The preponderance of 'Indian mounds' throughout the eastern U.S. would > tend to belie your contention that the Native Americans were incapable of > producing anything... I never contended such a thing > Not all tribes were forag

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1999-01-06 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- For a real wild history of America, read the Book of Mormon. No, I'm not a Mormon. Also, I came up with something awhile back, while digging through 1925 issues of the New York Times. I'll see if I can find it. Also, David Hatcher Childress (I think that's his name) of Adventures

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1999-01-06 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Hawk wrote: >In my opinion, Your OPINION matters not a whit...what matters are FACTS...got any? >I think it was due to OVER-POPULATION. What you THINK matters not a whit...where are your FACTS? >"under-productivity per person." The Indians simply were n

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1999-01-06 Thread Hawk
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] Until recently, the most knowledgable students estimated that there were > somewhere between 15 and 20 million Indians in the hemisphere when Columbus > arrived, agreeing also that probably only some 850,000 lived within the present > boundaries

[CTRL] About historic American Indian population figures --

1999-01-05 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- Kris: About historic American Indian population figures -- Not exactly that many. Here is a quote from Alvin Josephy -- while a dated Indian historian, his basic material even in 1995 was still considered the most reliable to date on general facts like this. Bracketed quotes