Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curiously, last night NBC aired Goldeneye--the James Bond thriller about the electromagnetic pulse weapon. It's an oldey but kind of confirms its existence. What was even more curious was that it wasn't on any of my TV schedules. And to add to the curiosity factor, wasn't a thriller based on Y2K the movie that WAS scheduled? Did NBC black out the Y2K movie in all markets, or just a few...? June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing
-Caveat Lector- On 22 Nov 99, at 7:06, YnrChyldzWyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curiously, last night NBC aired Goldeneye--the James Bond thriller about the electromagnetic pulse weapon. It's an oldey but kind of confirms its existence. What was even more curious was that it wasn't on any of my TV schedules. And to add to the curiosity factor, wasn't a thriller based on Y2K the movie that WAS scheduled? Did NBC black out the Y2K movie in all markets, or just a few...? No, Goldeneye appeared on Saturday. Y2K was on Sunday nite. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing
-Caveat Lector- On 20 Nov 99, at 9:58, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: But on the other hand, if this is a cover-up to save Boeing's corporate ass, then I am very glad this is happening. Egypt is too important to US foreign policy to lose. If Batouty didn't crash the plane, and I believe that he didn't, then pinning the crash on THIS dead man may turn out to be a big mistake. Yes, Joshua, of course. Prudy Well, since they seem to have ruled out mechanical failure, I'm not sure what Boeing has to do with it at all. Now protecting the US military, who may have been "exercising" or "excorsing" the area, is a whole other kettle of fish. Curiously, last night NBC aired Goldeneye--the James Bond thriller about the electromagnetic pulse weapon. It's an oldey but kind of confirms its existence. What was even more curious was that it wasn't on any of my TV schedules. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/20/1999 9:49:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope no one believes that coming from an exhaulted family means one can never be guilty of wrong doing. I don't care if Galal el-Batouty is Quraish. His behavior is his own responsibility. I have no idea if he was responsible for the plane crash, but whether he was or not has nothing to do with a host of rich and notable relatives. Prudy But on the other hand, if this is a cover-up to save Boeing's corporate ass, then I am very glad this is happening. Egypt is too important to US foreign policy to lose. If Batouty didn't crash the plane, and I believe that he didn't, then pinning the crash on THIS dead man may turn out to be a big mistake. Yes, Joshua, of course. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/19/1999 3:24:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The family of Gamil el-Batouty, who US investigators believe committed suicide by plunging his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic, vowed that they would take the fight to clear their name to the highest courts in Egypt and America. Kinsmen also issued a warning that, should the allegations prove baseless, the relationship between Washington and its important Middle East ally could be damaged. Mr Batouty's family forms part of a key network that the Americans cultivated to keep Cairo on side while they simultaneously backed Israel as their most important strategic partner in the region. The dead co-pilot's kinsmen included Alaa el-Batouty, the recently retired head of President Mubarak's personal security service, now in charge of the Egyptian nuclear programme, and Galal el-Batouty, the head of the Egyptian-American medical aid programme. I hope no one believes that coming from an exhaulted family means one can never be guilty of wrong doing. I don't care if Galal el-Batouty is Quraish. His behavior is his own responsibility. I have no idea if he was responsible for the plane crash, but whether he was or not has nothing to do with a host of rich and notable relatives. Prudy But on the other hand, if this is a cover-up to save Boeing's corporate ass, then I am very glad this is happening. Egypt is too important to US foreign policy to lose. If Batouty didn't crash the plane, and I believe that he didn't, then pinning the crash on THIS dead man may turn out to be a big mistake. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/19/1999 3:24:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The family of Gamil el-Batouty, who US investigators believe committed suicide by plunging his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic, vowed that they would take the fight to clear their name to the highest courts in Egypt and America. Kinsmen also issued a warning that, should the allegations prove baseless, the relationship between Washington and its important Middle East ally could be damaged. Mr Batouty's family forms part of a key network that the Americans cultivated to keep Cairo on side while they simultaneously backed Israel as their most important strategic partner in the region. The dead co-pilot's kinsmen included Alaa el-Batouty, the recently retired head of President Mubarak's personal security service, now in charge of the Egyptian nuclear programme, and Galal el-Batouty, the head of the Egyptian-American medical aid programme. I hope no one believes that coming from an exhaulted family means one can never be guilty of wrong doing. I don't care if Galal el-Batouty is Quraish. His behavior is his own responsibility. I have no idea if he was responsible for the plane crash, but whether he was or not has nothing to do with a host of rich and notable relatives. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing
-Caveat Lector- November 19 1999 Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing FROM SAM KILEY, MIDDLE EAST CORRESPONDENT, IN CAIRO THE suggestion that a pilot caused the deaths of 217 passengers on board the EgyptAir flight has struck at the Egyptian establishment and at an aristocratic dynasty. The family of Gamil el-Batouty, who US investigators believe committed suicide by plunging his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic, vowed that they would take the fight to clear their name to the highest courts in Egypt and America. Kinsmen also issued a warning that, should the allegations prove baseless, the relationship between Washington and its important Middle East ally could be damaged. Mr Batouty's family forms part of a key network that the Americans cultivated to keep Cairo on side while they simultaneously backed Israel as their most important strategic partner in the region. The dead co-pilot's kinsmen included Alaa el-Batouty, the recently retired head of President Mubarak's personal security service, now in charge of the Egyptian nuclear programme, and Galal el-Batouty, the head of the Egyptian-American medical aid programme. Sources close to Mr Mubarak said yesterday that he had been "incensed" by the suicide allegations. Although no longer close friends, Mr Mubarak served as the late Mr Batouty's commanding officer during the 1973 war with Israel and knew him as a popular air force instructor. "The President is very angry," one of Mr Mubarak's intimates said. "He said that this is racism and a whitewash which damages the reputation of the airline and all Egyptians. Things are very tense with the Americans." Mr Mubarak's inner circle was stunned that investigators had put forward the suicide theory before they had got an accurate translation of the cockpit voice recordings. The US State Department has attacked what it called "wild" speculation and far-fetched conspiracy theories about the EgyptAir crash, and has appealed to government agencies and the media to stop spreading them. Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om