Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

1999-11-22 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curiously, last night NBC aired Goldeneye--the James Bond thriller
about the electromagnetic pulse weapon. It's an oldey but kind of
confirms its existence. What was even more curious was that it
wasn't on any of my TV schedules.

And to add to the curiosity factor, wasn't a thriller based on Y2K the
movie that WAS scheduled?  Did NBC black out the Y2K movie in all
markets, or just a few...?


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Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

1999-11-22 Thread sno0wl

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On 22 Nov 99, at 7:06, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

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 On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Curiously, last night NBC aired Goldeneye--the James Bond thriller
 about the electromagnetic pulse weapon. It's an oldey but kind of
 confirms its existence. What was even more curious was that it wasn't
 on any of my TV schedules.

 And to add to the curiosity factor, wasn't a thriller based on Y2K the
 movie that WAS scheduled?  Did NBC black out the Y2K movie in all
 markets, or just a few...?

No, Goldeneye appeared on Saturday. Y2K was on Sunday nite.
sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

1999-11-21 Thread sno0wl

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On 20 Nov 99, at 9:58, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:

 But on the other hand, if this is a cover-up to save Boeing's
 corporate
  ass, then I am very glad this is happening. Egypt is too important to
  US foreign policy to lose.

  If Batouty didn't crash the plane, and I believe that he didn't, then
  pinning the crash on THIS dead man may turn out to be a big mistake.
  

 Yes, Joshua, of course.  Prudy

Well, since they seem to have ruled out mechanical failure, I'm not
sure what Boeing has to do with it at all. Now protecting the US
military, who may have been "exercising" or  "excorsing" the area,
is a whole other kettle of fish.

Curiously, last night NBC aired Goldeneye--the James Bond thriller
about the electromagnetic pulse weapon. It's an oldey but kind of
confirms its existence. What was even more curious was that it
wasn't on any of my TV schedules.
sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

1999-11-20 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 11/20/1999 9:49:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I hope no one believes that coming from an exhaulted family means one can
  never be guilty of wrong doing.  I don't care if Galal el-Batouty is
Quraish.
   His behavior is his own responsibility.  I have no idea if he was
  responsible for the plane crash, but whether he was or not has nothing to
do
  with a host of rich and notable relatives.  Prudy

 But on the other hand, if this is a cover-up to save Boeing's corporate ass,
 then I am very glad this is happening. Egypt is too important to US foreign
 policy to lose.

 If Batouty didn't crash the plane, and I believe that he didn't, then pinning
 the crash on THIS dead man may turn out to be a big mistake. 

Yes, Joshua, of course.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

1999-11-20 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:

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 In a message dated 11/19/1999 3:24:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The family of Gamil el-Batouty, who US investigators believe committed
  suicide by plunging his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic, vowed that they would
  take the fight to clear their name to the highest courts in Egypt and
  America.

  Kinsmen also issued a warning that, should the allegations prove baseless,
  the relationship between Washington and its important Middle East ally
  could be damaged.

  Mr Batouty's family forms part of a key network that the Americans
  cultivated to keep Cairo on side while they simultaneously backed Israel as
  their most important strategic partner in the region. The dead co-pilot's
  kinsmen included Alaa el-Batouty, the recently retired head of President
  Mubarak's personal security service, now in charge of the Egyptian nuclear
  programme, and Galal el-Batouty, the head of the Egyptian-American medical
  aid programme. 

 I hope no one believes that coming from an exhaulted family means one can
 never be guilty of wrong doing.  I don't care if Galal el-Batouty is Quraish.
  His behavior is his own responsibility.  I have no idea if he was
 responsible for the plane crash, but whether he was or not has nothing to do
 with a host of rich and notable relatives.  Prudy

But on the other hand, if this is a cover-up to save Boeing's corporate ass,
then I am very glad this is happening. Egypt is too important to US foreign
policy to lose.

If Batouty didn't crash the plane, and I believe that he didn't, then pinning
the crash on THIS dead man may turn out to be a big mistake.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

1999-11-20 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 11/19/1999 3:24:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The family of Gamil el-Batouty, who US investigators believe committed
 suicide by plunging his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic, vowed that they would
 take the fight to clear their name to the highest courts in Egypt and
 America.

 Kinsmen also issued a warning that, should the allegations prove baseless,
 the relationship between Washington and its important Middle East ally
 could be damaged.

 Mr Batouty's family forms part of a key network that the Americans
 cultivated to keep Cairo on side while they simultaneously backed Israel as
 their most important strategic partner in the region. The dead co-pilot's
 kinsmen included Alaa el-Batouty, the recently retired head of President
 Mubarak's personal security service, now in charge of the Egyptian nuclear
 programme, and Galal el-Batouty, the head of the Egyptian-American medical
 aid programme. 

I hope no one believes that coming from an exhaulted family means one can
never be guilty of wrong doing.  I don't care if Galal el-Batouty is Quraish.
 His behavior is his own responsibility.  I have no idea if he was
responsible for the plane crash, but whether he was or not has nothing to do
with a host of rich and notable relatives.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

1999-01-17 Thread Mack White

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November 19 1999

Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

FROM SAM KILEY, MIDDLE EAST CORRESPONDENT, IN CAIRO

THE suggestion that a pilot caused the deaths of 217 passengers on board
the EgyptAir flight has struck at the Egyptian establishment and at an
aristocratic dynasty.

The family of Gamil el-Batouty, who US investigators believe committed
suicide by plunging his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic, vowed that they would
take the fight to clear their name to the highest courts in Egypt and
America.

Kinsmen also issued a warning that, should the allegations prove baseless,
the relationship between Washington and its important Middle East ally
could be damaged.

Mr Batouty's family forms part of a key network that the Americans
cultivated to keep Cairo on side while they simultaneously backed Israel as
their most important strategic partner in the region. The dead co-pilot's
kinsmen included Alaa el-Batouty, the recently retired head of President
Mubarak's personal security service, now in charge of the Egyptian nuclear
programme, and Galal el-Batouty, the head of the Egyptian-American medical
aid programme.

Sources close to Mr Mubarak said yesterday that he had been "incensed" by
the suicide allegations. Although no longer close friends, Mr Mubarak
served as the late Mr Batouty's commanding officer during the 1973 war with
Israel and knew him as a popular air force instructor.

"The President is very angry," one of Mr Mubarak's intimates said. "He said
that this is racism and a whitewash which damages the reputation of the
airline and all Egyptians. Things are very tense with the Americans."

Mr Mubarak's inner circle was stunned that investigators had put forward
the suicide theory before they had got an accurate translation of the
cockpit voice recordings.

The US State Department has attacked what it called "wild" speculation and
far-fetched conspiracy theories about the EgyptAir crash, and has appealed
to government agencies and the media to stop spreading them.

Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd.

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