Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- TenebrouseT, And the same could be said back of you and your philosphies. What goes around, generally has a tendency to come around back to us. If we promote hate, we will get hate, if we promote animosity and hostility, we will reap animosity and hostility. I would rather promote as much peace as possible with the hope of reaping peace in the process. I've seen too much hate and animosity on the internet for the past five, almost six years online, muchless out in the real world. As for me, I will stick not to my own 'philosophy' but rather the teachings in the Bible from cover to cover. For the record, prove to me that the protocols are not a forgery of some original document, and I may reconsider. But just as Wyatt who claims he's found the ark of the covenant... but left no hard evidence to prove himself, the Protocols cannot be proved authentic or disproved either. It's all a matter of belief and opinion as to whether one believes they are written by those who have a plan for world domination. And in your own philosophical taste, won't YOU be surprised, TenebrousT, if the Protocols turn out to be true. Touche` . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/12/99 6:16:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello PNEALE1, Yes, I've had the gross privilege of viewing a copy of the Talmud... all $666 worth ( that's ironically what it sells for at Zondervan ) and you're right it is a very scary document... wonder if it could be authored by those same ones who call themselves the 'Elders of Zion' ... ? the same ones who CLAIM that the document is "forged" ? h? A forgery requires a real document to have been forged / counterfeited from. So who are they trying to fool with that argument? Certainly no one with any common sense. As far as the world being better off without both groups, i.e. Jews and Muslims, I have to disagree. Christ said to leave the tares alone, (See Matthew 13:22-43) and allow them to grow with the wheat for the time being. So if you perceive the Jews and Muslims as something that should be removed, i.e. "tares" for example, just give it a little more time... For when the appointed time comes, Christ has said that HE and His angels will take care of them, by throwing them into the fire. And what becomes of anything thrown to the fire? It becomes ashes on the sides of the pit, and of no further consequence. eagle 1 Yes, God will make the choices and he will judge, at least according to your philosophy. And won't you be surprised if you are the one that is ashes and others go on to glory. I'm sure God just loves it every time you let off a little racist steam against the "vermin" Jews and Muslims. How about the "damned Asians" surely they won't see glory either? Incidentally the Protocols are not a forgery of an original document they are a total fabrication a complete fiction devised in Russia by the Tsar's secret police. That should clear up that troublesome "forgery" business, since there is no original for it to be a forgery of. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/13/99 10:00:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the record, prove to me that the protocols are not a forgery of some original document, and I may reconsider. But just as Wyatt who claims he's found the ark of the covenant... but left no hard evidence to prove himself, the Protocols cannot be proved authentic or disproved either. It's all a matter of belief and opinion as to whether one believes they are written by those who have a plan for world domination. And in your own philosophical taste, won't YOU be surprised, TenebrousT, if the Protocols turn out to be true. Yes, my point is just this. People will believe what they will, and we will never know for sure. YOU are the one who harped upon Kris' use of the term "forgery" for the Protocols, and used that term to buttress your argument that they are a Jewish document that is the blueprint for Jewish domination of the world, by rightly pointing out that a forgery must have an original. Yes, what comes around goes around and your statements against the Jews will certainly stand you in good staid with the Almighty, or maybe you weren't referring to the "real" Jews but to those "Kazarian" impostors? I will not be surprised. The Protocols are clearly an accurate assessment of the future, from the time they were written. Whoever put them together had a good grasp of what was coming or made a really lucky guess. If the Protocols were true, which they aren't, what difference does it make to me anyway? SOMEONE definitely is in control and shaping the world according to their nefarious plans (NWO, Illuminat, Skull and Bones, Multinational Corp.'s, take your pick, or name your own). It doesn't matter who it is the end will be the same. I can prove nothing to you, and have no desire to. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- I don't know if you have ever looked at the Talmud but, it is a very scary work. The Talmud supersedes the Bible for Jews. The Talmud IS the Jewish Holy Book. The Talmud says: gentiles are animals. We are told in the Talmud that the Torah (Genesis thru Deutoronomy) only applies to Jews. It is OK to swindle or kill a gentile. It is there in black and white. Jews cannot deny that. I was specifically told by an orthodox Jew within the past 50 days that it is illegal for gentiles to have abortions but ONLY because of the 7th of the Noahide laws stating that you shall not sever the limb of a living ANIMAL. What animal? The fetus. The fetus is an animal. IT IS LEGAL FOR JEWS TO HAVE ABORTIONS. As far as I am concerned the requirement upon Muslims to slaughter infidels (Jihad) and the Jewish classification of gentiles as animals, to be killed and swindled, are equivalent. Both groups are clearly extremely dangerous and the world would be safer without them. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- Hello PNEALE1, Yes, I've had the gross privilege of viewing a copy of the Talmud... all $666 worth ( that's ironically what it sells for at Zondervan ) and you're right it is a very scary document... wonder if it could be authored by those same ones who call themselves the 'Elders of Zion' ... ? the same ones who CLAIM that the document is "forged" ? h? A forgery requires a real document to have been forged / counterfeited from. So who are they trying to fool with that argument? Certainly no one with any common sense. As far as the world being better off without both groups, i.e. Jews and Muslims, I have to disagree. Christ said to leave the tares alone, (See Matthew 13:22-43) and allow them to grow with the wheat for the time being. So if you perceive the Jews and Muslims as something that should be removed, i.e. "tares" for example, just give it a little more time... For when the appointed time comes, Christ has said that HE and His angels will take care of them, by throwing them into the fire. And what becomes of anything thrown to the fire? It becomes ashes on the sides of the pit, and of no further consequence. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:32 AM Subject: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger -Caveat Lector- I don't know if you have ever looked at the Talmud but, it is a very scary work. The Talmud supersedes the Bible for Jews. The Talmud IS the Jewish Holy Book. The Talmud says: gentiles are animals. We are told in the Talmud that the Torah (Genesis thru Deutoronomy) only applies to Jews. It is OK to swindle or kill a gentile. It is there in black and white. Jews cannot deny that. I was specifically told by an orthodox Jew within the past 50 days that it is illegal for gentiles to have abortions but ONLY because of the 7th of the Noahide laws stating that you shall not sever the limb of a living ANIMAL. What animal? The fetus. The fetus is an animal. IT IS LEGAL FOR JEWS TO HAVE ABORTIONS. As far as I am concerned the requirement upon Muslims to slaughter infidels (Jihad) and the Jewish classification of gentiles as animals, to be killed and swindled, are equivalent. Both groups are clearly extremely dangerous and the world would be safer without them. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/12/99 6:16:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello PNEALE1, Yes, I've had the gross privilege of viewing a copy of the Talmud... all $666 worth ( that's ironically what it sells for at Zondervan ) and you're right it is a very scary document... wonder if it could be authored by those same ones who call themselves the 'Elders of Zion' ... ? the same ones who CLAIM that the document is "forged" ? h? A forgery requires a real document to have been forged / counterfeited from. So who are they trying to fool with that argument? Certainly no one with any common sense. As far as the world being better off without both groups, i.e. Jews and Muslims, I have to disagree. Christ said to leave the tares alone, (See Matthew 13:22-43) and allow them to grow with the wheat for the time being. So if you perceive the Jews and Muslims as something that should be removed, i.e. "tares" for example, just give it a little more time... For when the appointed time comes, Christ has said that HE and His angels will take care of them, by throwing them into the fire. And what becomes of anything thrown to the fire? It becomes ashes on the sides of the pit, and of no further consequence. eagle 1 Yes, God will make the choices and he will judge, at least according to your philosophy. And won't you be surprised if you are the one that is ashes and others go on to glory. I'm sure God just loves it every time you let off a little racist steam against the "vermin" Jews and Muslims. How about the "damned Asians" surely they won't see glory either? Incidentally the Protocols are not a forgery of an original document they are a total fabrication a complete fiction devised in Russia by the Tsar's secret police. That should clear up that troublesome "forgery" business, since there is no original for it to be a forgery of. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/12/99 5:42:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if you have ever looked at the Talmud but, it is a very scary work. The Talmud supersedes the Bible for Jews. The Talmud IS the Jewish Holy Book. The Talmud says: gentiles are animals. We are told in the Talmud that the Torah (Genesis thru Deutoronomy) only applies to Jews. It is OK to swindle or kill a gentile. It is there in black and white. Jews cannot deny that. I was specifically told by an orthodox Jew within the past 50 days that it is illegal for gentiles to have abortions but ONLY because of the 7th of the Noahide laws stating that you shall not sever the limb of a living ANIMAL. What animal? The fetus. The fetus is an animal. IT IS LEGAL FOR JEWS TO HAVE ABORTIONS. As far as I am concerned the requirement upon Muslims to slaughter infidels (Jihad) and the Jewish classification of gentiles as animals, to be killed and swindled, are equivalent. Both groups are clearly extremely dangerous and the world would be safer without them. I doubt very much that you have actually READ the Talmud. It sounds as though you are just repeating what someone TOLD you the Talmud said. More AntiJewish bullshit. Remember too that the Talmud is a product of different sociological times. It is a product of another culture, far removed in time. So even if it DID say what you think it says that would mean nothing for today. The Pentateuch is the holy book for Jews, it is the supreme law for them and since it contains the 10 commandments presumably the Jews must not murder us, or covet our things, etc. . . This is just vitriolic racism and as such has no place here on this list. Consider this a warning (I am a moderator here). Please try and not accept what is spoonfed to you by bigotted racists and actually do some research for yourself, you might be surprised by what you find. . .like the Holocaust actually DID occur!!! Amazing. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
