Re: [CTRL] Justice Memos Explained How to Skip Prisoner Rights

2004-05-23 Thread Prudy L
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So it's all perfectly legal. I feel so much better. Prudy
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[CTRL] Justice Memos Explained How to Skip Prisoner Rights

2004-05-22 Thread Jim Rarey
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/21/politics/21MEMO.html?pagewanted=printposition=



  
  
 
  
  
  May 21, 2004GENEVA CONVENTIONS 
  
  Justice Memos Explained How to Skip Prisoner 
  RightsBy NEIL A. LEWIS
  


  
  ASHINGTON, May 20 — A series of Justice Department 
  memorandums written in late 2001 and the first few months of 2002 were 
  crucial in building a legal framework for United States officials to avoid 
  complying with international laws and treaties on handling prisoners, 
  lawyers and former officials say. 
  The confidential memorandums, several of which were written or 
  co-written by John C. Yoo, a University of California law professor who 
  was serving in the department, provided arguments to keep United States 
  officials from being charged with war crimes for the way prisoners were 
  detained and interrogated. They were endorsed by top lawyers in the White 
  House, the Pentagon and the vice president's office but drew dissents from 
  the State Department. 
  The memorandums provide legal arguments to support administration 
  officials' assertions that the Geneva Conventions did not apply to 
  detainees from the Afghanistan war. They also suggested how officials 
  could inoculate themselves from liability by claiming that abused 
  prisoners were in some other nation's custody.
  The methods of detention and interrogation used in the Afghanistan 
  conflict, in which the United States operated outside the Geneva 
  Conventions, is at the heart of an investigation into prisoner abuse in 
  Iraq in recent months. Human rights lawyers have said that in showing 
  disrespect for international law in the Afghanistan conflict, the stage 
  was set for harsh treatment in Iraq.
  One of the memorandums written by Mr. Yoo along with Robert J. 
  Delahunty, another Justice Department lawyer, was prepared on Jan. 9, 
  2002, four months after the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. 
  The 42-page memorandum, entitled, "Application of treaties and laws to Al 
  Qaeda and Taliban detainees," provided several legal arguments for 
  avoiding the jurisdiction of the Geneva Conventions.
  A lawyer and a former government official who saw the memorandum said 
  it anticipated the possibility that United States officials could be 
  charged with war crimes, defined as grave breaches of the Geneva 
  Conventions. The document said a way to avoid that is to declare that the 
  conventions do not apply.
  The memorandum, addressed to William J. Haynes, the Pentagon's general 
  counsel, said that President Bush could argue that the Taliban 
  government in Afghanistan was a "failed state" and therefore its soldiers 
  were not entitled to protections accorded in the conventions. If Mr. Bush 
  did not want to do that, the memorandum gave other grounds, like asserting 
  that the Taliban was a terrorist group. It also noted that the president 
  could just say that he was suspending the Geneva Conventions for a 
  particular conflict.
  Prof. Detlev Vagts, an authority on international law and treaties at 
  Harvard Law School, said the arguments in the memorandums as described to 
  him "sound like an effort to find loopholes that could be used to avoid 
  responsibility." 
  One former government official who was involved in drafting some of the 
  memorandums said that the lawyers did not make recommendations but only 
  provided a range of all the options available to the White House.
  On Jan. 25, 2002, Alberto R. Gonzales, the White House counsel, in a 
  memorandum to President Bush, said that the Justice Department's advice 
  was sound and that Mr. Bush should declare the Taliban as well as Al Qaeda 
  outside the coverage of the Geneva Conventions. That would keep American 
  officials from being exposed to the federal War Crimes Act, a 1996 law, 
  which, as Mr. Gonzales noted, carries the death penalty.
  The Gonzales memorandum to Mr. Bush said that accepting the 
  recommendations of the Justice Department would preserve flexibility in 
  the global war against terrorism. "The nature of the new war places a high 
  premium on other factors such as the ability to quickly obtain information 
  from captured terrorists and their sponsors in order to avoid further 
  atrocities against American civilians," said the memorandum, obtained this 
  week by The New York Times. The details of the memorandum were first 
  reported by Newsweek. 
  Mr. Gonzales wrote that the war against terrorism, "in my judgment 
  renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy 
  prisoners."
  Mr. Gonzales also says in the memorandum that 

[CTRL] Justice For All Or Justice For None

2003-08-24 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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Justice For All Or Justice For None

By Lynn Stuter
August 24, 2003

NewsWithViews.com

In establishing the Constitution of the United States of America, our Founding Fathers 
set out to do what no nation had ever done before, or ever has done since: establish 
liberty, justice, and order for all.

It became readily apparent to these men that to do this, rule must be by law — a 
constitutional republic, rather than rule by man according to his own passions and 
opinions — democracy; that the rights of the minority must not be at the whim of the 
majority but the rights of each and all, whether part of the majority or the minority, 
must be equal under the law.

These men also knew that in order for rule by law to continue to exist as a governance 
structure, man must choose to govern self, as an individual, according to a morally 
acceptable and socially responsible creed finding basis in and acceptance in not only 
the immediate community of which the individual is a part, but the larger community as 
well.

With all due consideration of the aforesaid, John Adams wrote:

Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people; it is wholly inadequate 
for any other.

James Madison expanded on the words of John Adams when he wrote:

We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of 
government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political 
institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control 
ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.

James Madison made apparent the morally acceptable and socially responsible creed upon 
which man must base self-governance if the constitution was to be maintained as the 
supreme law of the land.

At the state level, every individual, elected by secret ballot to represent the 
people, before taking office, takes an oath to uphold the state constitution, U.S. 
Constitution and Bill of Rights. As such, every elected representative of the people 
has taken an oath to uphold the law, to provide equal access under the law, and to 
provide equal protection under the law. Thus it is that every individual is guaranteed 
equal rights and equal protection under the law.

Today, we are bombarded daily with the notion that our nation is a democracy.

Speaking of democracy, James Madison had this to say in Federalist No. 10:

... Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever 
been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have in 
general been as short in their lives, as they have been violent in their deaths.

Why is this? Because, in a democracy, rule is by the majority with the rights of the 
minority at the whim of the passions and opinions of the majority. Under such a 
governance structure, rights become arbitrary and capricious, civil unrest ensues, 
leading to revolution and civil war between those of the majority and those subject to 
the passions and opinions of the majority: the minority.

No where in the transformation of America from a constitutional republic to a 
democracy is this more apparent than in the justice system. Very few people have any 
conception or understanding of how corrupt the American justice system has become.

Rule by law and equal protection under the law no longer exist. Whether the law is 
enforced has become arbitrary and capricious, at the whim of the passions and opinions 
of those wielding power.

In this same vein, it is doubtful that our Founding Fathers intended justice to be at 
the mercy of the almighty $$$. Justice in America today is not dependent on facts, 
justice in America today is dependent on whether people have the money to pay an 
attorney.

At the same time, the people can only pray that the attorney they hire will represent 
them and not the state bar association of which they must be a member, and the court 
of which they are an officer.

Too many people have learned the hard way that too many attorneys are beholden to the 
state bar association and the court, a stacked deck making justice impossible to 
attain under any circumstance.

Not only this, but the court system has become so convoluted that no man can 
adequately represent himself as facts, the law and the constitution are not the basis 
of proceedings and justice is not the goal. The system is there to make money for 
attorneys and increase the power and position of the courts.

Unfortunately, when justice is not the goal and facts, the law, and the constitution 
are not the basis, the result is the loss of rights which, over time, undermines the 
rights of the people.

Justice for some results in justice for none and tyranny prevails just as it did in 
the time of the Declaration of Independence. James Madison spoke of the necessity of 
the Declaration of Independence as follows:

The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by 
exercise, 

[CTRL] Justice Dept. Drafts Sweeping Expansion of Anti-Terrorism Act

2003-02-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
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http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=502L1=10L2=10L3=0L4=0L5=0
Special ReportJustice Dept. Drafts Sweeping Expansion of 
Anti-Terrorism ActCenter Publishes Secret Draft of ‘Patriot II’ 
Legislation

By Charles Lewis and Adam Mayle

(WASHINGTON, Feb. 7, 2003) -- The Bush Administration is 
preparing a bold, comprehensive sequel to the USA Patriot Act passed in the wake 
of September 11, 2001, which will give the government broad, sweeping new powers 
to increase domestic intelligence-gathering, surveillance and law enforcement 
prerogatives, and simultaneously decrease judicial review and public access to 
information.
The Center for Public Integrity has obtained a draft, dated 
January 9, 2003, of this previously undisclosed legislation and is making it 
available in full text  (12 MB). The bill, 
drafted by the staff of Attorney General John Ashcroft and entitled the Domestic 
Security Enhancement Act of 2003, has not been officially released by the 
Department of Justice, although rumors of its development have circulated around 
the Capitol for the last few months under the name of “the Patriot Act II” in 
legislative parlance.
“We haven’t heard anything from the Justice Department on 
updating the Patriot Act,” House Judiciary Committee spokesman Jeff Lungren told 
the Center. “They haven’t shared their thoughts on that. Obviously, we'd be 
interested, but we haven’t heard anything at this point.”


  
  
RELATED DOCUMENTS
  

  


  
  The draft of the Domestic Security 
Enhancement Act of 2003 (12 MB)

  
  The Office of Legislative Affairs “control 
sheet” which shows that a copy of the bill was sent to Speaker 
Hastert and Vice President Cheney 

  
  Read the Justice Department's response to 
this report. 
Senior members of the Senate Judiciary Committee minority staff have 
inquired about Patriot II for months and have been told as recently as this week 
that there is no such legislation being planned. 
Mark Corallo, deputy director of Justice’s Office of Public 
Affairs, told the Center his office was unaware of the draft. “I have heard 
people talking about revising the Patriot Act, we are looking to work on things 
the way we would do with any law,” he said. “We may work to make modifications 
to protect Americans,” he added. When told that the Center had a copy of the 
draft legislation, he said, “This is all news to me. I have never heard of 
this.” 

After the Center posted this story, Barbara Comstock, director 
of public affairs for the Justice Dept., released a statement saying 
that, "Department staff have not presented any final proposals to either the 
Attorney General or the White House. It would be premature to speculate on any 
future decisions, particularly ideas or proposals that are still being discussed 
at staff levels." 


  
  
RELATED LINKS
  

  


  
  For additional information, watch 
the PBS program "Now With Bill Moyers" tonight at 9 P.M. EST. (Check local listings.) The show will also 
air an interview with Charles Lewis. 
  An 
Office of Legislative Affairs “control sheet”  that was obtained 
by the PBS program "Now With Bill Moyers" shows that a copy of the 
bill was sent to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert and Vice President Richard 
Cheney on Jan. 10, 2003. “Attached for your review and comment is a draft 
legislative proposal entitled the ‘Domestice Security Enhancement Act of 2003,’” 
the memo, sent from “OLP” or Office of Legal Policy, says.
Dr. David Cole, Georgetown University Law professor and author 
of Terrorism and the Constitution, reviewed the draft legislation at the request 
of the Center, and said that the legislation “raises a lot of serious concerns. 
It’s troubling that they have gotten this far along and they’ve been telling 
people there is nothing in the works.” This proposed law, he added, “would 
radically expand law enforcement and intelligence gathering authorities, reduce 
or eliminate judicial oversight over surveillance, authorize secret arrests, 
create a DNA database based on unchecked executive ‘suspicion,’ create new death 
penalties, and even seek to take American citizenship away from persons who 
belong to or support disfavored political groups.” 
Some of the key provision of the Domestic Security Enhancement 
Act of 2003 include:
Section 201, “Prohibition of Disclosure of Terrorism 
Investigation Detainee Information”: Safeguarding the dissemination of 
information related to national security has been a hallmark of Ashcroft’s first 
two years in office, and the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003 follows 
in the footsteps of his October 2001 directive to carefully consider such 
interest when granting Freedom of Information Act requests. While the October 
memo simply 

[CTRL] Justice Department To Attempt Shut Down of 9/11 Evidence Friday

2002-07-11 Thread Joshua Tinnin

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http://indymedia.org:8081/front.php3?article_id=191632group=webcast

On June 20, Bush Administration officials quietly informed a New York judge
of their intention to commence legal actions...to control access to all
evidence and documents related to all private litigation...regarding the
terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 -- citing grave national security
concerns as their motivation.


Justice Department To Attempt Shut Down of 9/11 Evidence Friday

by Tom Flocco
July 11th, 2002

On June 20, Bush Administration officials quietly informed a New York judge
of their intention to commence legal actions likely to be far- reaching in
their constitutional, political, and individual rights implications
pertaining to current lawsuits and government secrecy related to the attacks
on September 11, 2001. The moves were revealed in a letter obtained from a
confidential source, with two other sources corroborating its existence,
adding additional information.

U.S. Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division Robert D. McCallum,
Jr. and United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York James
B. Comey advised U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein, also of the Southern
District of New York, that the Department of Justice (DOJ) will intervene to
control access to all evidence and documents related to all private
litigation before Hellerstein’s court regarding the terrorist attacks of
September 11, 2001 -- citing grave national security concerns as their
motivation.

The McCallum and Comey correspondence advised Judge Hellerstein of their
intention to seek [court] entry of a global discovery order [effectively
controlling evidence obtained from any country], requiring that 1)
Transportation Security Administration (TSA) be served with [have prior
access to] all requests for party and non-party discovery, 2 defendants and
non-parties submit all proposed discovery responses that may contain
‘sensitive security information’ (SSI) to the TSA prior to releasing
such material to plaintiffs, and 3) TSA have the necessary opportunity to
review such material and to withhold ‘sensitive security information’
[from victim-family attorneys].

One victim family plaintiff -- speaking off the record -- told Scoop Media
that family members and their attorneys have not yet sought internal memos,
electronic mail, facsimiles, and documents which would shed public light
upon what had to be extraordinary legal maneuverings. However, added high
stakes related to the publicly undisclosed contents of the controversial
August 6, 2001 Presidential intelligence briefing prior to the attacks, and
a secret July, 2001 FBI memo -- said to be 50 times more significant than
the August 6 briefing, by a Congressional investigator (New York Times,
5-18-2002), will only serve to heighten the importance of the June 20
letter.

Will We Ever Know What Really Happened?

The victim family source complained to Scoop Media that now the White House
is trying to control or block the evidence we need to prove our negligence
cases in court. The source then added that offices of United Airlines
defense firm Mayer-Brown and lead attorney Michael Feagley, TSA, Bush
Attorney General John Ashcroft’s Justice Department, Judge Hellerstein’s
District Court, and the White House Counsel’s office were all likely
involved in the legal machinations.

The resumes of TSA Director, John McGaw, and his personnel security chief,
David Holmes, are already controversial enough to draw probing questions on
many fronts; but plaintiff attorneys for the victim families may find the
Administration's TSA appointee attempts to exert government control over
their clients' private cases to be the proverbial last straw.

The DOJ letter to Judge Hellerstein reveals that Bush Administration
officials at TSA have also been contacting witnesses already subpoenaed by
attorneys for the plaintiff families, telling them that they should send all
Plaintiff-subpoenaed evidence and documents to the TSA for initial
inspection, prior to directly cooperating with family plaintiff attorneys
and Judge Hellerstein's Court in New York. Thus, constitutional questions
arise as to why the New York District Court is permitting Bush
Administration bureaucratic appointees to tamper with witnesses and evidence
in the private civil actions of American citizens.

Some 33 families have already chosen to forego financial awards from the
congressionally authorized victim compensation fund in favor of seeking
justice and accountability. Their lawsuits are attempting to recover damages
for negligence, ticket contract safeguards, and failure to prevent the
attacks, even as more evidence regarding prior knowledge of the terrorism
recently leaked out from Capitol Hill -- from congressmen and senators
themselves.

The letter also disclosed that Ashcroft’s Office will push for the
appointment of lead counsel, effectively exerting a consolidated supervisory
role over all victim 

[CTRL] Justice for Sale

2002-02-21 Thread Jei

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Ashcroft Queried Over MS Contributions - The Register
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24086.html

Lindows.com Opens 'Windows' Case - InternetNews
http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article/0,,3_975171,00.html

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[CTRL] JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HIDING SECRET WEEKLY REPORTS TO A.G.

2002-02-18 Thread William Shannon
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=18863



JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HIDING SECRET WEEKLY REPORTS TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
by Michael Ravnitzky , [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am a reporter who works full time for a well-respected national news
organization in the Washington, DC area. My news organization publishes
more than 25 national and regional magazines and newspapers, primarily in
the area of business and law, and at least two (Legal Times and The
National Law Journal) primarily devoted to the activities of the justice
system and of federal government agencies.

Last year I learned that the Department of Justice Office of Legislative
Affairs (DOJ OLA) provided weekly legislative activity (i.e. DOJ lobbying)
reports to the Office of the Attorney General. These reports are usually
2-3 pages in length.

I asked for a few of these reports under the Freedom of Information Act;
those were provided in their entirety. Then I sent a letter, again citing
FOIA, and requested a couple of years worth of these reports (still only a
couple of hundred pages in all). Soon afterward, the roof fell in.

The news organization I work for routinely reports on Justice Department
activities in several magazines and newspapers. Nevertheless, DOJ decided
that I am no longer a representative of the news media. As a result, they
declined to process our request without our payment of hundreds or
thousands of dollars in search fees. Under the FOIA law, reporters should
not be charged any search or review fees.

I found out soon afterward what had happened. A small office in DOJ
called the Office of Information and Privacy runs training seminars for
government FOIA managers in a variety of agencies. At one training session
in November, 2001, the question came up of how to handle troublesome
requests, including my request for legislative weekly reports to the
Attorney General.

The DOJ representative said that they were going to deny my status as a
representative of the news media, despite the fact that I work full time
for a national news organization and actively cover agency matters.

I learned this from a FOIA Manager who was in attendance at the seminar,
and who also spoke to the group criticizing this decision. This manager told
me that he thought their decision-making was highly improper.

Despite letters to the DOJ from the editor in chief of our news
organization, as well as inquiries from our company General Counsel, the
Justice Department is standing firm and suppressing the release of these
reports by insisting that a reporter is not a reporter.

The Justice Department is now considering spreading this technique of
hiding government documents to other agencies. If it is not halted now, this
approach could keep reporters from learning about the activities of the
government. This matter is too important to keep within the confines of a
newsroom.

Apparently these documents which I requested are highly embarrassing or
sensitive, since they are taking such extraordinary steps to prevent their
release.

If I withdraw my request for these documents, which date back at least as
far as the mid-1980s, they will undoubtedly be shredded under the Justice
Department's document destruction schedules.

What can you do about this?

FIRST of all, these reports should be requested to prevent their immediate
shredding. Once records are requested, the agency is obliged to retain
the records until the request has been processed.

If anyone else is interested in these reports, you can request them,
specifying the years that you are interested in , by sending a letter
simply mentioning the Freedom of Information Act, and asking for

THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS WEEKLY REPORTS TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
FOR THE YEARS  - . (as of last month, they had these reports going
back at least 15 years)

to:

Office of Legislative Affairs -- Requests for Office of Legislative
Affairs records should be addressed to:

Melanie Ann Pustay, Deputy Director
Office of Information and Privacy
Suite 570, Flag Building
Department of Justice
Washington, DC 20530-0001
PHONE: 202: 514-FOIA
FAX: 202-514-1009


[CTRL] Justice Department looking more like secret police

2001-09-03 Thread radtimes

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Danger Zone: Justice Department looking more like secret police

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/editorial/1030811

Sept. 3, 2001
Houston Chronicle

To some, it will no doubt sound like journalists whining over the treatment
of other journalists and trying to curry some special favor from society.
To most, however, it will hopefully sound like what it is, a true and
legitimate alarm over the U.S. Justice Department's handling of First
Amendment rights that profoundly affect how we all find out what our
government is up to.
First, as most Houstonians now know, came the strange case of Vanessa
Leggett, who sits in federal detention here for refusing to let her notes
and tapes, gathered for a book about a River Oaks murder case, fall into
the hands of federal prosecutors. If the feds succeed in making Leggett, in
essence, a surrogate investigator for the government it will have a
dangerous and lasting chilling effect on the way information gets gathered
and disseminated in this supposedly free and open society.
And now comes the case of Associated Press reporter John Solomon in New
Jersey. The Bush Justice Department has subpoenaed and acquired Solomon's
home telephone records, both incoming and outgoing calls during a five-day
period in which he investigated and reported on New Jersey Sen. Robert
Torricelli's 1996 campaign.
Even more frightening, the Justice Department subpoenaed the bookstore
purchase records of eight people, including those of Toricelli and an
individual purported to be a central witness in the investigation.
The Justice Department must immediately stop its attempts at threatening
and intimidating journalists and writers, says Ray Marcano, president of
the Society of Professional Journalists and managing editor of the Dayton
(Ohio) Daily News. Someone at Justice needs to be held accountable for
these outrageous acts.
Observers are also concerned because the Justice Department has refused
detailed comment on either Leggett's or Solomon's cases.
What's going on here? Why the reluctance on the part of the government to
at least explain itself?
Targeting journalists for simply doing their jobs. These secret police
tactics are more appropriate for some Third World, fascist regime.
No journalist is above the law, but the jobs they do play a special role in
our society that needs to be safeguarded not for the sake of journalists,
but for the sake of knowing what the government is doing and to whom.
The press may not be popular, and our excesses may anger many people. But a
pattern of government agents raiding citizens' personal records and
clamping down on information (and information gatherers) about what they
are doing without explanation ought to scare the devil out of us all.

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[CTRL] Justice - just leave it to Big Brother

2001-08-15 Thread Yardbird

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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/today/aug15/Leaders/justleave.shtml

Belfast Telegraph
15 Aug 01

Justice - just leave it to Big Brother
By Eamonn McCann

ANY time we are tempted to believe that the Bush or Clinton administrations have been 
genuine in their declarations of concern about peace and justice in Northern Ireland, 
we need only think of Israel.

The hallmarks of Israel's treatment of the Palestinian people are blithe disregard for 
international agreements, open contempt for United Nations resolutions, the deliberate 
murder of unarmed civilians and the persecution
of whole communities for the supposed misdeeds of individuals.

The key reason the Israelis get away with this atrocious behaviour is that successive 
US administrations have given them unconditional support.

We are not dealing here with mere generalised support for a regime which happens to 
carry out assassinations but with explicit support for the policy of assassination.

On July 31, Israeli forces killed eight people in a missile attack in the Palestinian 
town of Nablus. Six were members of Hamas, two were children under 10. Asked to 
comment, US vice-president Richard Cheney declared:

In Israel, what they've done over the years, occasionally, in an effort to preempt 
terrorist activities, is to go after the terrorists, and in some cases I suppose it is 
justified.

Cheney clearly regarded it as irrelevant that, under international law, UN
resolution and the 'Oslo Accords' negotiated under close US supervision, Nablus is in 
Palestinian territory, where the Israeli defence forces have no right to be, much less 
ambush local people in a missile assault.

But then, Israel's criminality has never concerned the US. Israel long ago hired 
itself out to the US as its enforcer in the Middle East and in return
was given carte blanche for butchery.

Resolution 446 of the UN Security Council declares that the 'policy and practices of 
Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories 
occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to 
achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace'.

Yet, day in and day out, in broad daylight and under the gaze of television cameras, 
the Israelis not only build and add to existing Jewish settlements but send in 
bulldozers, guarded by tanks, to destroy Palestinian settlements whose moral and legal 
validity is unquestionable.

And there isn't a cheep of protest from governments which, when it suits them - which 
is to say, when it suits the US - palpitate with passion about the inviolability of UN 
resolutions.

Could double standards go any deeper? Well, yes.

On a single day in June, Bush's most faithful follower, Tony Blair, welcomed one, the 
arrest of Slobodan Milosevic by the UN War Crimes Tribunal at The Hague, and two, 
Ariel Sharon to 10 Downing Street.

Sharon is a serial mass murderer, his crimes dating back at least to 1953 when he 
personally took part in the killing of 60 Palestinians in the village of Qibya.

As Defence Minister in 1982, he sanctioned the chopping to death of up to 2,000 
Palestinian civilians, men, women and children, in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps 
on the outskirts of Beirut.

His thirst for blood whetted, as Prime Minister he now sends in the cut-throats and 
helicopter gun-ships to keep up the kill rate.

There are UN tribunals to deal with war crimes in the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda, 
but none to reflect even a transient interest in the war crimes of Israel. Everybody 
knows why: any move at the UN to bring Israel within the remit of international law 
would instantly, automatically, be vetoed by the US.

Every time our own peace process lurches into crisis, there's speculation that the 
White House might intervene and put pressure on this side or that in an effort to 
secure a fair outcome. All the pro-Agreement parties accept Bush as an honest broker. 
They say a lot about themselves in so doing.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/today/aug15/Leaders/justleave.shtml

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[CTRL] Justice Department Opposes Microsoft

2001-07-29 Thread Peat



Wonder Which OS Do They Use?
Justice Department Opposes MicrosoftAssociated 
PressStopping just short of accusing Microsoft of stalling, the 
JusticeDepartment asked an appeals court to deny the company's request 
tore-examine whether the software maker illegally mixed software code 
fortwo products. Microsoft's challenge is "clearly erroneous, repeating 
thesame arguments it made in its principal brief on appeal," the 
JusticeDepartment told the court Thursday. "Microsoft also treats its 
petitionfor rehearing as an occasion to expound upon a variety of topics, 
mostof them irrelevant to the issue at hand."http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/news.findlaw.com/ap/ht/1700/7-27-2001/20010727011554380.htmlThe 
Government Response To Microsoft's Petition For A Rehearing [PDF]http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/microsoft/appelleesrsp72601.pdf




Regards,Peter E Luke

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Re: [CTRL] Justice tempered with mercy?

2001-06-08 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Now these people were very humane - if at first you don't succeed -
 well, maybe they should find an old Westinghouse Electric Chair?

 Wonder if Bill Clinton has plans for visiting Afghanistan - or is this
 why he is scared of Osama bin Laden? 

As I always said, Saba, he didn't lie.  He didn't have sex with that woman.
Sodomy is very different (check Webster). I don't believe anyone is going to
Afghanistan this year.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Justice tempered with mercy?

2001-06-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Now these people were very humane - if at first you don't succeed -
well, maybe they should find an old Westinghouse Electric Chair?

Wonder if Bill Clinton has plans for visiting Afghanistan - or is this
why he is scared of Osama bin Laden?

Saba

BBC News Online: World: S/W Asia
Three Afghans survive death sentence for sodomy

Thursday, February 26, 1998 Published at

Three Afghans survive death sentence for sodomy

Reports from Kandahar - the headquarters of the Afghan Taleban movement
- say that three men have survived a death sentence imposed for sodomy,
and have had the penalty commuted.

Under the Taleban interpretation of Islamic law, sodomites have to be
crushed to death under a pile of mud or bricks.

The reports from Aghanistan say a tank pushed a large wall over on top
of the three men.

But - because they were still alive after thirty minutes - by Koranic
law they were automatically granted a reprieve.

The men are now said to be recovering in hospital in Kandahar.


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[CTRL] Justice Department Wants McVeigh Delay

2001-05-11 Thread radman

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   www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010511/aponline105907_000.htm

   Friday, May 11, 2001; 10:59 a.m. EDT


Justice Department Wants McVeigh Delay

By Ron Fournier
AP White House Correspondent


  WASHINGTON -- Justice Department lawyers have recommended that Attorney
  General John Ashcroft delay the execution of convicted Oklahoma City
  bomber Timothy McVeigh for 30 days, two government officials said Friday.

  The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Attorney General
  John Ashcroft was expected to approve the request later Friday. The
  recommendation came one day after the FBI disclosed that it had failed to
  turn over documents to McVeigh's defense.

  McVeigh, 33, is scheduled to die Wednesday at a federal prison in Terre
  Haute, Ind.

  The belated uncovering of the documents embarrassed the government and
  angered victims and their families. But it was not immediately clear
  whether McVeigh -- who had waived appeals in the past few months and
  claimed responsibility for the bombing -- would himself now seek a
  delay.

  We needed this death penalty, said Aren Almon Kok, whose baby daughter
  came to symbolize the 1995 blast through a photograph of her lifeless
  body in the arms of a firefighter.

  For someone to make this mistake ... to find them less than a week
  before he dies ... is unbelievably unfair, she said in Oklahoma City.

  The Justice Department handed McVeigh's lawyers 3,135 documents it said
  should have been provided during the discovery phase of his 1997 trial in
  Denver. The existence of the documents was disclosed Thursday by CBS.

  Kathleen Treanor, who lost her 4-year-old daughter and in-laws in the
  April 19, 1995, bombing, criticized the FBI as bungling the case and
  giving McVeigh the chance to extend his life.

  I'm appalled, she said. The FBI knew from the very beginning that this
  was a huge case. How could they have possibly made a mistake this huge?

  In a letter to McVeigh's attorneys, the Justice Department said the
  documents consist of FBI reports, including interview notes known as
  302s, and photocopies of physical evidence such as photographs,
  written correspondence and tapes.

  The documents came from 45 FBI offices in the United States and one in
  Paris.

  A lawyer familiar with the case told The Associated Press that the
  materials contain information generated by thousands of phone calls made
  to the FBI after the bombing. They range from identifying a composite
  drawing of a possible suspect known as John Doe No. 2 to claims of seeing
  McVeigh elsewhere on the day of the bombing.

  Legal analysts said the mistake could delay what would be the first
  federal execution since 1963, though it was unlikely to overturn
  McVeigh's conviction.

  An attorney for McVeigh said the materials may prompt a request for a
  stay.

  We're considering all our options, McVeigh lawyer Nathan Chambers said
  after the documents were delivered to his office in Denver.

  Chambers spoke to McVeigh about the documents, but he declined to
  elaborate except to say he couldn't rule anything out yet.

  Asked Friday on CBS' The Early Show whether McVeigh would seek a stay,
  he said: The honest question to that is we don't know at this point.
  There are a number of options that may be available to Mr. McVeigh, and
  we have a lot of work to do. He gave a similar answer when asked if
  McVeigh would fight if the government sought a stay.

  Another McVeigh attorney, Rob Nigh, arrived Thursday night in Indiana.

  In a recently published book, McVeigh claimed sole responsibility for the
  bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, which killed 168 people
  and injured hundreds. Since December, when he first asked to end his
  appeals, he had not shown any interest in fighting his conviction or
  death sentence.

  McVeigh's trial judge, U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch of Denver,
  could not be reached for comment. Court clerk James Manspeaker said the
  defense would have to go to the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, also
  in Denver, to file a motion to consider new evidence.

  Matsch planned no action unless an appeal is filed. If something is
  filed he'll take a look at it, Manspeaker said.

  The legal standard for granting such a motion requires the court to
  determine the verdict could have been different if the jury had been
  allowed to see the documents.

  The prosecution proved everything to me, said McVeigh juror Doug Carr,
  45. If there was something left out that's in those files, I don't think
  it was that significant.

  McVeigh's former trial lawyer, Stephen Jones, said he wouldn't be
  surprised if the execution was stayed until the documents are reviewed.

  There could be a benign interpretation and it could all be irrelevant,
  Jones said. On the other hand, it could be a malignant failure to turn
  over.

  The Justice Department said the 

[CTRL] Justice Served In Jesse Dirkhising Murder Case

2001-03-24 Thread kl

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URL: http://ToogoodReports.com/

WASHINGTON, DC — "The conviction of homosexual sadist Joshua
Brown for the
torture, rape, and murder of 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising, is a relief to
those of us in the pro-family community," said Rev. Louis P. Sheldon,
Chairman of Traditional Values Coalition. "Brown has been sentenced to
25
years in prison for raping Jesse, but still faces life in prison on the
murder charge."

Rev. Sheldon is encouraged by the speed of the justice system in
Arkansas
and is looking ahead to Brown's homosexual lover receiving a similar
penalty for his role in Jesse's torture and suffocation death. Brown's
lover, Davis Don Carpenter's trial begins on May 7.

"This was a heinous crime involving two homosexual men who seduced,
drugged, and tortured a young boy as he choked to death on his own
underwear," said Sheldon. "This kind of sado-masochistic activity is
commonplace among many homosexuals."

TVC notes that the mainstream news media, which made Matthew
Shepard a
household name, has been strangely silent on the murder of Jesse
Dirkhising
by homosexual sadists. A report in the Washington Times on March 23,
2001,
indicates that none of the major networks, except Fox, have covered the
Dirkhising murder trial. The New York Times, Washington Post, and
USA Today
have also neglected to cover this story.

"One can only wonder how the media would have covered a story
involving two
heterosexual men who tortured and murdered a homosexual teenager,"
observed
Sheldon. "Why is the death of Jesse Dirkhising of less importance than
the
death of Matthew Shepard at the hands of two killers? Is it because
discussing the perverted lifestyle of Jesse's murderers isn't politically
correct?"

"The murder of every person is a great tragedy," said Sheldon. "The
media
should not pick and choose which murders to cover depending upon the
sexual
orientation of the killers. Jesse's torture and murder is as great a
tragedy as Matthew Shepard's death."


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means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the
threshold of any dangerous thought.  It includes the power of not
grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of
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(English Socialism), and being bored or repelled by any train of thought
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Re: [CTRL] Justice Denied

2001-01-11 Thread lassey

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It's not the S Court the is 'besmirched', it's the 'House' down the
street.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:50:28 -0800 radman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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 Justice Denied

 http://www.ourfuture.org/readarticle.asp?ID=702

 by Robert L. Borosage, Campaign For America's Future
 12/13/00

 In a brazen decision, a partisan majority of five Supreme Court
 justices
 trampled precedent, law and common sense to reach the result that
 they
 wanted: blocking a fair count of the votes in Florida. As Mr.
 Justice
 Scalia indicated in his revealing opinion justifying the five when
 they
 stopped the count, the five partisans assumed that if the votes were
 counted Al Gore would win Florida and the election. This would do
 "irreparable harm," Justice Scalia said in an understatement, to the
 "legitimacy" of George W. Bush taking office. Losing generally has
 that
 effect. And so, the five partisan conservative activists chose
 instead to
 sacrifice the Court's reputation and besmirch its tradition in order
 to
 protect Gov. Bush's usurpation.
 It is particularly outrageous that the five conservative activists
 summoned
 up a newfound concern for equal protection to justify their lawless
 decision. Somehow the common sense standard that election officials
 should
 count ballots by hand  looking to see if there is a mark that would
 indicate how the voter cast his or her vote  a standard that has
 sufficed
 in handcounts determining elections for years  raised equal
 protection
 concerns. The court was in essence ruling that if a machine did not
 count a
 ballot  for whatever idiosyncratic reason  that ballot need not be
 counted.
 But the reality of Florida  and many other states is that precincts
 with
 poor and minority voters get the
 oldest and least accurate machines. If you were wealthy and white in
 Florida, you voted on machines that
 rejected far fewer ballots than if you were poor or black. This was
 not
 "voter error," or more offensively,
 Republican claims of voter ignorance. It was machine error, and
 institutionalized discrimination against black and poor voters. This
 was
 the true equal protection concern that the Supreme Court should have
 been
 focused on. It is understandable why George Bush did not want these
 rejected votes counted: the poor and minorities tend to vote against
 him.
 But it is inconceivable that the Supreme Court would block the
 counting of
 votes, given the discriminatory distribution of modern as against
 outmoded
 machines. There was ample precedent to order a full count and ample
 time to
 do so. Instead the Court elevated an arbitrary deadline that made a
 count
 impossible. It stopped the count to avoid "irreparable harm" to
 George W.
 Bush. And then it ruled that its stay had done irreparable harm not
 just to
 Al Gore, but to the voters whose votes were never counted.
 Justice Stevens was surely right that a big loser in this case was
 the
 society's confidence in the judge as a neutral arbiter above
 politics. But
 the bigger loser was our democracy itself. A candidate who lost
 across the
 country and in Florida will capture the office of the presidency by
 having
 employed every means necessary from a partisan election official, to
 Republican paid demonstrators, to backstage threats, to a partisan
 legislature, to a partisan 5 person majority on the Supreme Court,
 to block
 a fair count of the votes.
 This will be remembered. It will be remembered by African Americans
 whose
 voting rights were trampled by a Court that once prided itself on
 defending
 them. It will be remembered by Democrats who had the election stolen
 from them.
 But the true danger is that it will be remembered by the Bush crowd
 themselves. Aware that they lost, they will work tirelessly to
 weaken the
 coalition against them, even as they seek to expand their own. We
 are
 likely to witness a desperate return to race bait, class based wedge
 politics with the vicious edge that was displayed in Florida. And it
 is
 clear that there is no law, no rule, no standard of decency which
 they will
 allow to limit them in their pursuits.
 Progressives must insure that this injustice does not stand. An
 immediate
 reform drive should be launched to challenge the institutionalized
 discrimination against working people and minorities in the election
 system. In January, a massive voter registration drive should be
 launched,
 fueled by the outrage of Florida. Al Gore may be forced to concede,
 but we
 should not. Bush should be challenged from day one, his political
 machinations revealed, his class and racial politics exposed. The
 Florida
 vote should be investigated, particularly the detailed allegations
 of
 purposeful suppression of the black vote. Democrats should stand up
 against
 any attempt of Bush to institutionalize this conservative usurpation
 through judicial or regulatory appointments.
 Democratic Hall of Shame
 Whatever you 

[CTRL] Justice Denied

2001-01-10 Thread radman

-Caveat Lector-

Justice Denied

http://www.ourfuture.org/readarticle.asp?ID=702

by Robert L. Borosage, Campaign For America's Future
12/13/00

In a brazen decision, a partisan majority of five Supreme Court justices
trampled precedent, law and common sense to reach the result that they
wanted: blocking a fair count of the votes in Florida. As Mr. Justice
Scalia indicated in his revealing opinion justifying the five when they
stopped the count, the five partisans assumed that if the votes were
counted Al Gore would win Florida and the election. This would do
"irreparable harm," Justice Scalia said in an understatement, to the
"legitimacy" of George W. Bush taking office. Losing generally has that
effect. And so, the five partisan conservative activists chose instead to
sacrifice the Court's reputation and besmirch its tradition in order to
protect Gov. Bush's usurpation.
It is particularly outrageous that the five conservative activists summoned
up a newfound concern for equal protection to justify their lawless
decision. Somehow the common sense standard that election officials should
count ballots by hand  looking to see if there is a mark that would
indicate how the voter cast his or her vote  a standard that has sufficed
in handcounts determining elections for years  raised equal protection
concerns. The court was in essence ruling that if a machine did not count a
ballot  for whatever idiosyncratic reason  that ballot need not be counted.
But the reality of Florida  and many other states is that precincts with
poor and minority voters get the
oldest and least accurate machines. If you were wealthy and white in
Florida, you voted on machines that
rejected far fewer ballots than if you were poor or black. This was not
"voter error," or more offensively,
Republican claims of voter ignorance. It was machine error, and
institutionalized discrimination against black and poor voters. This was
the true equal protection concern that the Supreme Court should have been
focused on. It is understandable why George Bush did not want these
rejected votes counted: the poor and minorities tend to vote against him.
But it is inconceivable that the Supreme Court would block the counting of
votes, given the discriminatory distribution of modern as against outmoded
machines. There was ample precedent to order a full count and ample time to
do so. Instead the Court elevated an arbitrary deadline that made a count
impossible. It stopped the count to avoid "irreparable harm" to George W.
Bush. And then it ruled that its stay had done irreparable harm not just to
Al Gore, but to the voters whose votes were never counted.
Justice Stevens was surely right that a big loser in this case was the
society's confidence in the judge as a neutral arbiter above politics. But
the bigger loser was our democracy itself. A candidate who lost across the
country and in Florida will capture the office of the presidency by having
employed every means necessary from a partisan election official, to
Republican paid demonstrators, to backstage threats, to a partisan
legislature, to a partisan 5 person majority on the Supreme Court, to block
a fair count of the votes.
This will be remembered. It will be remembered by African Americans whose
voting rights were trampled by a Court that once prided itself on defending
them. It will be remembered by Democrats who had the election stolen from them.
But the true danger is that it will be remembered by the Bush crowd
themselves. Aware that they lost, they will work tirelessly to weaken the
coalition against them, even as they seek to expand their own. We are
likely to witness a desperate return to race bait, class based wedge
politics with the vicious edge that was displayed in Florida. And it is
clear that there is no law, no rule, no standard of decency which they will
allow to limit them in their pursuits.
Progressives must insure that this injustice does not stand. An immediate
reform drive should be launched to challenge the institutionalized
discrimination against working people and minorities in the election
system. In January, a massive voter registration drive should be launched,
fueled by the outrage of Florida. Al Gore may be forced to concede, but we
should not. Bush should be challenged from day one, his political
machinations revealed, his class and racial politics exposed. The Florida
vote should be investigated, particularly the detailed allegations of
purposeful suppression of the black vote. Democrats should stand up against
any attempt of Bush to institutionalize this conservative usurpation
through judicial or regulatory appointments.
Democratic Hall of Shame
Whatever you thought of Al Gore as a candidate or a leader, he deserved
support as he fought to have the votes counted. It is truly unforgivable
that some Democratic politicians did not have the basic decency or simple
courtesy to allow him to digest the Court's opinion and make his own

[CTRL] Justice Department - the Clintons' Caretakers

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

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Justice Department - the Clintons' Caretakers
Neal Boortz
Thursday, Dec. 21, 2000
Here's more proof that the Justice Department under Bill Clinton has existed
primarily to keep criminal investigations and embarrassment away from the
Clintons.
Do you remember Adelaide Abankwah?

She is the woman who appealed for asylum in the United States, claiming to
have been chosen "queen mother" of her tribe back in Ghana. She said, too,
that if she returned there, she would be forced to undergo female
circumcision because she is not a virgin.

Politicians, pretty celebrities and human rights activists hopped on the
bandwagon. Luminaries such as Hillary Clinton, Julia Roberts and Vanessa
Redgrave supported her case. Abankwah eventually won asylum in a federal
appeals court.

Now it turns out to be a lie. Another fraud endorsed by feminists and other
leftists. The truth is that this woman's genitals were in no danger
whatsoever from any ritual in Africa.

An investigation by the Immigration and Naturalization Service revealed that
Abankwah is actually Regina Norman Danson, a former hotel worker from Ghana.
She made up the "queen mother" story after she was caught entering the
United States in 1997 with a stolen passport. She's a criminal, not a queen.

The real Adelaide Abankwah is a former college student who lives near
Washington. Her passport was stolen in Ghana four years ago.

Time for the Justice Department to step in and prosecute, right?

Wrong. It's not time for prosecution, it's time for cover-up. It's time to
sweep this all under some convenient rug somewhere.

Why is Danson not being prosecuted or deported for illegally entering this
country with a stolen passport? Well, because it might embarrass some
people, that's why.

The Washington Post reports that Clinton Justice Department officials were
reluctant to prosecute Regina Dawson because they didn't want to embarrass
Hillary Clinton or the Clinton administration. And they didn't want to
embarrass all of those wonderful leftists/feminists who came to her rescue.

Hillary was running for the U.S. Senate and there was no sense in Justice
giving any ammunition to her opponent, right?

Snowmen Are Men and That's Politically Incorrect

A British professor isn't too keen on snowmen. Yes, the professor is a
woman, Tricia Cusack, an art historian from Birmingham University in
England.

Art historian - now, there's a stunning career choice. Anyway, Cusak says
snowmen reinforce gender stereotypes by portraying men in prominent public
roles. In promotional literature from the university, Cusack writes that
"the snowman's location in the semi-public space of garden or field
reinforces a spatial-social system marking women's sphere as the
domestic-private and the men's as the commercial-public."

What kind of an idiot walks around talking about "spatial-social systems"?
People who wouldn't have a prayer of earning a decent living in the private
sector, that's who. People who are so impressed with their own so-called
intelligence that they have no hope of ever identifying with real-world
people living and working outside the hallowed fantasy world of academe.

Bottom line: This lady thinks snowmen reinforce the old idea that a woman's
place is in the home. Yeah, that's what I think when I see a snowman. I
think he's just an instrument of male oppression against women. Not only
that, he's made out of white snow! That means he's also an instrument of
white male oppression against women and minorities. That snowy bastard!

Then again, we are talking about merry old England, where political
correctness runs rampant.

So, are we going to ban snowmen?

Can't Afford to Travel? That's Because of the Taxes!

The Libertarian Party issued a press release yesterday with some figures
tabulated by the Americans for Tax Reform. They took a look at local, state
and federal government taxes on hotels and lodging, fuel, bus, train and
airline tickets, and other travel-related items. And they discovered that
the tax bill adds about 41 percent to the overall cost of your trip. No
misprint there - 41 percent of your travel costs!

Just look at the savings you'd realize without the taxes:

· A $400 airline ticket would cost only $240. You'd save $160 in federal
excise taxes, passenger facilities charges, fuel taxes, arrival and
departure taxes, air traffic control surcharges, customs, immigration, and
agricultural inspection fees, and the additional taxes airlines pay directly
to the government.

· An $80-a-night hotel room would cost $45.60. Forty-three percent of the
cost of a hotel room comes from states' sales and use taxes, occupancy taxes
and tourism taxes - combined with all the employment, income, and property
taxes the hotel owner pays directly to the government.

· That $50 restaurant bill would cost $36.20, if not for sales taxes on food
and drinks, plus taxes on alcohol, property taxes, income taxes, and payroll
taxes.

· A $20 tank of gasoline would cost 

[CTRL] Justice O'Connor Upset When Seemed Gore Won -Report

2000-12-17 Thread Steve Wingate

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Sunday December 17 2:12 PM ET

Justice O'Connor Upset When Seemed Gore Won -Report

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor
(news - web sites) was upset during an election-night party when she heard
Florida was first called for Vice President Al Gore (news - web sites),
exclaiming, ''this is terrible,'' according to a report in Newsweek magazine
released on Sunday.

The report said O'Connor made the comment at about 8 p.m. on Nov. 7,
and declared that meant the election was ``over'' because Gore had also
won two other key states.

Quoting two eyewitnesses to her comments, Newsweek said that O'Connor
then walked off to get a plate of food, and her husband, John, explained to
friends and acquaintances that she was upset because they wanted to
retire to Arizona and a Gore presidency meant they would have to wait
another four years because she did not want a Democrat to name her
successor.

Not long after Florida was called for Gore, news organizations retracted the
call and said Florida was too close to be awarded to either candidate. The
state was then called for Bush, but again that call was retracted and the
race remained in limbo for five weeks.

O'Connor, 70, had been Republican majority leader of the Arizona State
Senate before being appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web
sites) by President Ronald Reagan in 1981.

The magazine said in its edition due out on Monday her remarks would
likely fuel criticism that high court justices ''sought to influence'' election
returns in their ruling in George W. Bush (news - web sites) v. Albert Gore
Jr. that ended the impasse over the presidential election.

Bush, the Republican governor of Texas, won the White House when Gore,
who had sought a hand recount of thousands of contested ballots in
Florida, conceded defeat on Wednesday, one day after a 5-4 Supreme
Court ruling that prevented any new recounts from going forward.

Newsweek, seeking a response from Justice O'Connor to the accounts of
her election-night comment, said that a high court spokesman said she had
no comment.

In its story, Newsweek noted that Justice O'Connor had no way of knowing
when she let her guard down that the networks' early call that Gore won
Florida's key 25 electoral votes was premature and that five weeks later
she would play a direct and decisive role in the election of his Republican
rival.

The magazine added that O'Connor could not possibly have foreseen that
she would be one of two swing votes in the court's 5-4 decision.

The Newsweek report came a day after the magazine released a poll that
said Americans remained deeply divided over the Supreme Court's ruling
that gave the presidency to Bush, and nearly two out of three thought
politics played a role in the decision.

While 51 percent said the court's decision that hand counts of contested
ballots in Florida could not resume was fair, 44 percent considered it unfair,
Newsweek said.

Sixty-five percent of those surveyed believed politics or partisanship played
a role in the U.S. Supreme Court justices' decision, according to the poll.

A larger proportion -- 81 percent -- saw politics playing a role in the
decisions of Florida state courts, which in some cases ruled in favor of
Gore during the legal battle to determine the 43rd U.S. president.


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[CTRL] Justice Scalia's Legal Vision is Blinded by his Ambition

2000-12-11 Thread Steve Wingate

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JUSTICE SCALIA'S LEGAL VISION IS BLINDED BY HIS AMBITION

New York Daily News Online
December 11, 2000

Justice Scalia's Legal Vision Is Blinded by His Ambition

Jim Dwyer

Earlier this year, Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court justice
who now is all but serving as the attorney for George W. Bush,
let it be known that if Democrats won the presidency, he'd
quit the court.

He would leave because under a Democratic administration, he
would have no shot at being named chief justice by Al Gore,
according to the March issue of the Washingtonian magazine.

Now, Scalia has taken charge of the election case for George
W. Bush and will try to herd the conservatives this morning
for the result he apparently wants: a Bush presidency, and,
perhaps, the job of chief justice when William Rehnquist
retires in a few years as is expected.

Normally, judges disqualify themselves from cases in which
they have a personal interest; if the naked ambition to be
the court's chief was accurately attributed to him, then he
has no business deciding this fight.

Scalia, however, could not have been bolder in his advocacy
for Bush's cause, and, by extension, his own.

During oral arguments two weeks ago, he took shots at the
Florida courts, which had said the most fundamental right in
a democracy is the vote.

No way, Scalia said.

"There is no right of suffrage under Article II," he declared.

In plain English, he said that the citizens have no constitutional
right to vote for President. His reason is that the Constitution
places that power in the hands of the state legislatures,
although he did not mention that all 50 state legislatures
submit the question to a popular vote. (Some transcripts of
the Supreme Court session attributed this remark to Rehnquist,
but Scalia apparently was the actual speaker.)

Over the weekend, he took matters even further.

Scalia wrote that Bush would suffer "irreparable harm" if
votes were counted "by casting a cloud upon what he claims
to be the legitimacy of his election."

You have may seen that moment in "A Few Good Men" when Tom
Cruise is defending a soldier at a military trial.

"I want the truth!" says Cruise, during cross-examination.

Jack Nicholson looks up at him with contempt.

"You can't handle the truth," snarls Nicholson.

The legality of the votes worries Scalia."Count first and rule
upon legality afterward is not a recipe for producing election
results that have the public acceptance democratic stability
requires," Scalia wrote.

We've gotten by for two centuries on precisely that recipe.
That is what is done on every Election Day in this country.

First we vote. Then come the challenges, if any, which end up
in court, and are decided there. This is not new. To have
disputed ballots decided by courts doesn't "change the rules
of the game." Those are the rules of the game. To do otherwise
changes the law, the customs and the practice in every single
state.

No one can possibly argue that it is the best interests of
Bush or Gore that the votes not be counted.

There was talk yesterday -- unfortunately, it proved to be
untrue -- that the Florida courts were going to ship uncounted
ballots up to Washington. Those ballots, for better and worse,
are the only evidence about the results of this election.

To exclude them from this decision is like saying that a murder
weapon seized from a suspect can't be shown to a jury because
of a legal technicality.

But Scalia says that we -- the nation -- can't handle the truth
of counting those ballots, that the results might damage a Bush
presidency if they show that he really didn't win.

So we hide the facts for the good of the country.

Or is it really for the good of Antonin Scalia, the chief
justice wanna-be?

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Re: [CTRL] Justice | ecitsuJ

2000-10-11 Thread Tenorlove

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I just read in the paper a couple of days ago that Janet Reno was
inducted into the International Women's Hall of Fame. For the first
time in my life, I actually wished I were a man.. shrug




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[CTRL] Justice | ecitsuJ

2000-10-10 Thread Alamaine

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From
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The Washington Times
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In the name of justice
James Bovard
Published 10/9/00

H.L. Mencken quipped in the 1920s that the name "Justice Department" was an
oxymoron. Attorney General Janet Reno has vindicated Mencken and given solace
to cynics across the land.

In July, controversy erupted over "Carnivore," the FBI's e-mail wiretap
software that reportedly can vacuum up vast amounts of private e-mail —
regardless of whether the feds have a search warrant. FBI officials "explained"
the program's ominous name by stressing that they never thought the public
would learn of the program's existence. Janet Reno took charge by announcing
she would require the FBI to change Carnivore's name.

The Justice Department also promised to appoint independent experts to evaluate
the program and to issue a report showing it posed no threat to privacy.
Several top academics snubbed the feds, doubting the review could be bona fide.
Late last month, the Justice Department proudly announced that a team
affiliated with the Illinois Institute of Technology would conduct a thorough
evaluation of Carnivore. The Justice Department is scheduled to release this
independent expert report exonerating the Carnivore system in December.

But glitches happen. The Justice Department posted an information file,
including the contract proposal, on the project on its Website. Key parts of
the researchers' resumes were blacked out — or so the Justice Department
thought. Computer buffs at www.cryptome.org easily opened the documents and
learned that among the "independent" experts is a top adviser to Mr. Clinton's
1992-93 transition team who performed several studies for federal agencies in
recent years, a former Justice Department lawyer, some consultants for the
Internal Revenue Service, and others who had top security clearances from the
National Security Agency and the Pentagon. The proposal promised that two of
its key experts would "be of special assistance in the public comment phase of
the project. . . . to help the public overcome popular myths and understand the
limitations associated with Carnivore."

Declan McCullagh, Wired News' ace reporter, noted "the irony of public
disclosure of personal information, by the very people who are in the midst of
claiming they can be trusted to protect it." On the other hand, perhaps the
hefty list of the Carnivore reviewers' government connections merely proves
they are "independent enough for Clinton administration work."

The same charade occurred with the "independent" company hired to evaluate the
film footage of the re-enactment of the FBI's final assault at Waco held
earlier this year at Fort Hood, Texas. The Justice Department endlessly
repeated that the Vector Data Systems is an independent British company.
However, Vector is actually owned by Anteon, a large American corporation whose
web page brags of its contracts with 50 federal agencies — including the White
House Communications Agency, the Pentagon and the Justice Department. Perhaps
the Justice Department assumes the best measure of the independence of a
company is how many federal contracts they have snared — and hope to receive in
the future. Not surprisingly, Vector provided the correct answers —thus seeking
to absolve the FBI of some of the most serious charges against it at Waco.

The recent "independence scams" should be no surprise. The Justice Department
has no concerns about conflict of interest because the government is presumed
to be incapable of committing any wrong. In a 1996 speech to government
prosecutors, Miss Reno declared: "All of you public lawyers are but little
lower than the angels, and I salute you." Miss Reno showed her belief in angels
in 1994 when she decreed that federal prosecutors would no longer be bound by
the ethics guidelines of state bar associations. Miss Reno's power grab for
federal prosecutors was unanimously condemned by the Conference of Chief
Justices, representing all the state supreme courts.

The longer Miss Reno clings to office, the more convinced she becomes that she
personifies justice. Consider her flip-flop on the independent counsel law.
Miss Reno urged Congress in 1993 to renew the independent counsel law because
"there is an inherent conflict whenever senior executive branch officials are
to be investigated by the department and its appointed head, the attorney
general." But the longer she served as attorney general, the more contemptuous
she became of public confidence in the justice system. Last year, she flipped
and told Congress that the existing law should be replaced with a system that
gave any attorney general unfettered authority to veto any indictments and to
fire any special counsel at any time on any pretext, thereby perpetually
politicizing investigations of wrongdoing by high-ranking government officials.

Miss Reno illustrated how 

Re: [CTRL] Justice not likely to prosecute in King killing

2000-09-10 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

In a message dated 09/05/2000 6:15:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 WASHINGTON (AP) - Although a civil jury has concluded there was a
 conspiracy to kill the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., a 1 1/2-year-old
 Justice Department investigation is not likely to produce any
 criminal charges, Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder said today. 

Unfortunately it takes a real crime to move Justice.  You know, something
like sexual harassment.  Murder and conspiracy to commit murder just do not
have the "gravitas" the Washington media and our Congress require before they
take real action.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Justice not likely to prosecute in King killing

2000-09-05 Thread nessie

http://www.foxnews.com/news/national/1209/d_ap_1209_331.sml


Justice not likely to prosecute in King killing
11.55 a.m. ET (1707 GMT) December 9, 1999


By Michael J. Sniffen, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Although a civil jury has concluded there was a
conspiracy to kill the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., a 1 1/2-year-old
Justice Department investigation is not likely to produce any
criminal charges, Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

Declining to release specific findings of the probe by the
department's civil rights division, Holder told reporters: "I would
not expect that there would be any criminal prosecution out of our
report.''

Holder said the report on the new field investigation ordered by
Attorney General Janet Reno in August 1998 is almost complete and
could be released within weeks.

Because the Justice inquiry was limited to examining two conspiracy
allegations that emerged in recent years, including the one examined
by the civil jury in Memphis, Tenn., Holder said he doubted the
report would put to rest speculation about the 1968 assassination of
the civil rights leader.

The Justice report "is not a very broad-based look at all the
possibilities,'' Holder said. "I suspect that given the verdict
yesterday, this will renew interest the King assassination, and I
suspect plant in the minds of many people doubts about some of those
conclusions that were reached earlier.''

A King son, Dexter King, told a news conference in Atlanta today: "We
don't care what the Justice Department does. Because of information
that come out in the Memphis trial, he said, "We believe that this
case is over. ... We know what happened. This is the period at the
end of the sentence.''

Although Justice conducted a criminal investigation, statutes of
limitation would bar prosecution of many crimes that are 30 years
old, with the possible exception of an ongoing conspiracy. Holder did
not say whether Justice investigators found no conspiracy or found no
crimes previously unknown.

Meantime, the King family finally has what it has sought for years -
a jury verdict saying the civil rights leader was the victim of a
conspiracy, not of a lone gunman.

"I'm just so happy to see that the people have spoken. This is what
we've always asked for,'' Dexter King said Wednesday after a jury
ruled in his family's favor on a wrongful-death lawsuit. [an error
occurred while processing this directive] The Kings had sued Loyd
Jowers, a retired Memphis businessman who claimed six years ago that
he paid someone other than confessed killer, James Earl Ray, to kill
King.

The trial for the first time gave a jury the opportunity to hear
theories of a murder conspiracy in the 1968 assassination at a
Memphis motel.

Ray pleaded guilty to the murder in 1969, so he did not go to trial.
He tried for 30 years to take back the guilty plea and died in prison
of liver disease last year. His plea was upheld eight times by state
and federal courts.

The six blacks and six whites on the Chancery Court jury deliberated
only about three hours before returning Wednesday's verdict and
awarding the Kings $100 in damages.

The Kings has asked for minimal damages, saying they were more
interested in a verdict that would support their belief of a
conspiracy.

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., an associate of King, told WSB-TV in Atlanta
that he will ask President Clinton and Reno for a thorough
investigation of the assassination.

The King family stressed the desire for closure.

"We are prepared now to move on with our lives and hope that other
people will join us in this process so that the nation can move on
with the healing that is so necessary,'' King's widow, Coretta Scott
King, said today on CNN.

The suit named Jowers and other "unnamed conspirators,'' so the
verdict did not identify anyone else who might have been involved. A
civil court jury finding a defendant like Jowers at fault requires
only a preponderance of evidence. In a criminal case, a defendant
must be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

William Pepper, a lawyer who represented Ray and now represents the
Kings, told jurors that Jowers, 73, was part of a vast conspiracy
involving the Mafia and agents of the federal government. He said
King was targeted because of his opposition to the Vietnam War and
plans for a huge "poor people's march'' on Washington.

He asserted that a cover-up following the assassination involved the
FBI, CIA, the news media and Army intelligence, as well as many state
and city officials.

Juror Robert Tucker said the assassination was too complex for one
person to have carried out.

He noted Pepper's assertions that King's police guard was pulled back
shortly before the murder and that Army agents had King under
surveillance at the time he was felled by a single rifle shot.

"All of those things added up, it wasn't just one guy acting alone,''
Tucker said.

A U.S. House committee concluded in 1978 that Ray was the killer but
may have had help before 

[CTRL] Justice Department was ignoring reliable evidence

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Fund-Raising Probe Sparks Debate

By Pete Yost
Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, June 6, 2000; 3:54 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON ­­ In a memo kept secret for 21Ž2 years, FBI Director
Louis Freeh warned that the Justice Department was ignoring
"reliable evidence" that conflicted with Al Gore's accounts of
his fund-raising activities.

Freeh sent the November 1997 memo, written by staff at his
request, to Attorney General Janet Reno to urge appointment of an
independent counsel to investigate Democratic fund raising.

"In the face of compelling evidence that the vice president was a
very active, sophisticated fund-raiser who knew exactly what he
was doing, his own exculpatory statements must not be given undue
weight," the Freeh memo said.

It preceded a better-known, and more scrutinized, memo by the
chief prosecutor in the case, Charles LaBella, who urged the same
action and also accused his Justice Department superiors of
contorting their investigation to avoid triggering an independent
counsel.

The memos were released by a House committee today as Republicans
in both chambers of Congress examined why a special prosecutor
was never appointed.

"Can you blame the American people or many in Congress for being
cynical?" House Government Reform Committee chairman Dan Burton,
R-Ind., asked after reading from the memos.

The FBI director said the Justice Department's preoccupation with
bit players should be replaced by a top-down investigation
starting with President Clinton and a "core group" of aides under
the theory that "most of the alleged campaign abuses flowed
directly or indirectly from the all-out efforts by the White
House and DNC (Democratic National Committee) to raise money."

Freeh's memo focused in part on fund-raising phone calls Gore
made from his government office. The vice president denied that
he intended to raise "hard money," which is regulated by federal
laws prohibiting solicitations on federal property.

The director's memo suggested the Justice Department was "relying
almost exclusively on the vice president's own statements to draw
inferences favorable to him even where those statement are
contradicted by other reliable evidence."

"If the attorney general relied primarily" on Gore's "statements
to end this investigation, she would be inviting intense and
justified criticism," the memo said.

In a memo responding to that allegation, Lee Radek, the chief of
the department's public integrity section who dealt with
independent counsel issues, said the Justice Department didn't
rely solely on Gore's word.

The conclusion that Gore's phone calls were to solicit "soft
money," outside the scope of the law, was based on "hundreds of
interviews with those who participated in the calls, and the
examination of scores of documents," Radek wrote in a memo also
released today. And the law in question is seldom prosecuted, he
said.

In his own 94-page memo, prosecutor LaBella complained that his
Justice Department superiors were "intellectually dishonest" and
practiced "gamesmanship" to avoid an independent counsel
investigation of President Clinton's and Gore's 1996 fund
raising.

Radek called those allegations "preposterous."

"The authors' attribution of bad faith to those of us who have
disagreed with them on various issues is nothing short of
shocking," Radek wrote.

LaBella's memo also said the re-election campaign "was so
corrupted by bloated fund raising and questionable
'contributions' that the system became a caricature of itself."
He wrote the memo on July 16, 1998, as he was preparing to leave
as head of the campaign fund-raising task force.

Word of LaBella's memo leaked to the media a week after he wrote
it, but Reno resisted demands from congressional Republicans to
release it until recently, saying investigative documents should
be kept confidential.

LaBella and Freeh argued that the Justice Department had failed
to adequately investigate allegations by the government-reform
group Common Cause that Clinton controlled a Democratic Party
advertising campaign and used it illegally to support his
re-election.

Those "arguably are the most serious" allegations," Freeh's memo
said.

LaBella wrote that the department's handling of the Common Cause
allegations "has been marked by gamesmanship rather than an
evenhanded analysis." He said Justice officials were "hostile" to
the idea of seeking an independent counsel and "had to find a
theory upon which we could avoid conducting an investigation."

Radek responded that Reno addressed the Common Cause issue
"squarely" and decided the law wasn't broken.


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[CTRL] Justice, FBI officials to testify about 'pressure' on probe

2000-05-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

May 23, 2000

Justice, FBI officials to testify about 'pressure' on probe

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 Senate and House committees have asked a top Justice
Department official and a key FBI executive to testify this week
on their 1996 conversation on whether "pressure" was applied to
scuttle a probe of campaign-finance abuses in the 1996 election.

 Lee Radek, head of Justice's office of public integrity, and
FBI Deputy Director William J. Esposito are set to testify
tomorrow before a Senate Judiciary subcommittee and on Thursday
before the House Government Reform Committee. Both panels are
investigating campaign-finance abuses.

 According to a Dec. 9, 1996, memo by FBI Director Louis J.
Freeh, Mr. Radek told Mr. Esposito he was "under a lot of
pressure not to go forward with the investigation" and that Miss
Reno's job "might hang in the balance." The memo said Mr. Freeh
met with Miss Reno and personally suggested she and Mr. Radek
recuse themselves from the probe.

 "Perhaps now we are a little closer to understanding why the
attorney general fought so hard against an independent counsel,"
said Rep. Dan Burton, Indiana Republican and House committee
chairman.

 "When compared to what actually happened over the last three
years, the Radek comment is not surprising," Mr. Burton said.
"Radek's participation in the campaign-finance investigation has
raised many questions."

 Sen. Arlen Specter, Pennsylvania Republican and chairman of
the Senate Judiciary administrative oversight and courts
subcommittee, said he may seek sanctions against Miss Reno and
Mr. Freeh for not disclosing documents related to his panel's
probe.

 Mr. Specter said Miss Reno and Mr. Freeh should have
produced the Freeh memo long ago, but turned it over only in
response to a subcommittee subpoena.

 "I'm very dissatisfied with the attorney general's
performance and said so many times, and I think the director has
an explanation to make as to why he did not inform the public of
the contents of his memo," he said.

 The House committee also has asked that Deputy Attorney
General Eric H. Holder Jr. "produce, in person, documents related
to the Department of Justice decision not to appoint an
independent counsel to investigate the 1996 campaign-finance
scandal."

 Mr. Burton said a three-year investigation by the committee
uncovered "significant evidence" that the Justice Department had
blocked efforts for an independent counsel probe into 1996
campaign-finance abuses.

 "To this day, the Justice Department continues to stonewall
our investigation by not turning over documents," he said. "This
is not about national security matters or matter of executive
privilege. This is about the Justice Department obstructing
justice by withholding documents from our committee —documents
that have been under subpoena for two years.

 "The American people have a right to expect that the Justice
Department works for the people, not as defense counsel for
politicians and a political party," he said.

 The Freeh memo, according to Senate sources, suggested that
Mr. Radek's public integrity section could not conduct a thorough
investigation and that Miss Reno and Mr. Radek should allow
aggressive outside investigators — whom he referred to as
"junkyard dogs."

 In a second memo, the sources said, Mr. Freeh said the
Justice Department had sought to sidestep the use of FBI agents
for the campaign-finance probe. That memo said the department
wanted to use investigators from the inspector general's office
at the Commerce Department instead.

 Mr. Radek has denied telling anyone he was under any undue
pressure, describing the accusations as having "no basis in
fact." Miss Reno said last week she did not recall being told by
Mr. Freeh of the comment or his request that she and Mr. Radek
step aside.

 The FBI has declined comment on the memo, which was turned
over under a subpoena to Senate and House investigators for an
investigation of Justice's handling of the campaign-finance
probe.

 After the 1996 presidential election, there was speculation
Miss Reno would not be named for a second term. White House aides
sought to dump her because of her willingness to investigate
White House officials and appoint several independent counsels.

 In her second term, she resisted an independent prosecutor
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[CTRL] Justice Taken Too Far - Re: What is behind the Elian case?

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Constitution Opinion (Published)
Source: NY Times Published: April 25, 2000
Author: LAURENCE H. TRIBE

 Some are wildly comparing the armed seizure of Elin Gonzlez to the
roundup of innocents by the Gestapo. Others think Attorney General Janet
Reno showed admirable patience in dealing with a group of zealots using the
boy as a pawn in its war with Fidel Castro.

But the partisan squabbling over these caricatured views threatens to
obscure a vital question: Where did the attorney general derive the legal
authority to invade that Miami home in order to seize the child?

The fact is, even on the assumption (which I share) that under applicable
legal and moral principles Elian should ultimately be reunited with his
father, the government's actions appear to have violated a basic principle
of our society, a principle whose preservation lies at the core of ordered
liberty under the rule of law.

Under the Constitution, it is axiomatic that the executive branch has no
unilateral authority to enter people's homes forcibly to remove innocent
individuals without taking the time to seek a warrant or other order from a
judge or magistrate (absent the most extraordinary need to act). Not only
the Fourth Amendment but also well-established constitutional principles of
family privacy require that the disinterested judiciary test the correctness
of the executive branch's claimed right to enter and seize.

Although a federal court had ordered that Elian not be removed from the
country pending a determination of his asylum petition, and although a court
had ruled that the Immigration and Naturalization Service could exercise
custody and control of Elian for the time being, no judge or neutral
magistrate had issued the type of warrant or other authority needed for the
executive branch to break into the home to seize the child. The agency had
no more right to do so than any parent who has been awarded custody would
have a right to break and enter for such a purpose. Indeed, the I.N.S. had
not even secured a judicial order, as opposed to a judicially unreviewed
administrative one, compelling the Miami relatives to turn Elian over.

The Justice Department points out that the agents who stormed the Miami home
were armed not only with guns but with a search warrant. But it was not a
warrant to seize the child. Elian was not lost, and it is a semantic sleight
of hand to compare his forcible removal to the seizure of evidence, which is
what a search warrant is for.

To be sure, our courts have allowed immigration officials to obtain areawide
warrants to search workplaces for illegal aliens, and Congress has by
statute empowered immigration officials to search, interrogate and arrest
people without warrants in order to prevent unlawful entry into the country.
But no one suspects that Elian is here illegally.

In fact, it's hard to see any significant immigration-related or other
federal interest in whether Elian was reunited with his father now or after
asylum is denied (if that is the outcome). And, should asylum be granted,
Elian's father might still be granted custody and could then take the boy to
Cuba with him if he so chose; asylum only means permission to stay in the
United States and is not a requirement to stay.

Either way, Ms. Reno's decision to take the law as well as the child into
her own hands seems worse than a political blunder. Even if well intended,
her decision strikes at the heart of constitutional government and shakes
the safeguards of liberty.

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[CTRL] Justice adviser on Gonzalez case has long ties to Clinton (fwd)

2000-04-22 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

April 20, 2000

Justice adviser on
Gonzalez case has long
ties to Clinton

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 A New York doctor who advised the Justice
Department that Elian Gonzalez was in "imminent
danger" at the home of his Miami relatives is a
longtime associate of President Clinton who served
on first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton's secret health
care task force.

 Dr. Irwin Redlener, president of community
pediatrics at Children's Hospital at Montefiore in
New York, also headed a group of prominent
physicians who endorsed Mr. Clinton's 1992
campaign.

 Dr. Redlener, president of the Children's Health
Fund, is the second longtime Clinton supporter and
adviser to surface as a key player in the Elian
Gonzalez saga. Gregory Craig, one of Washington's
highest-paid lawyers and a prime defender of Mr.
Clinton's in the impeachment trial, represents Elian's
father, Juan Miguel Gonzalez.

 On Monday, Dr. Redlener said in a letter to
Attorney General Janet Reno that Elian was in a
"state of imminent danger to his physical and
emotional well-being" in a home he considered to be
"psychologically abusive."

 He said there was "no justification" for leaving the
boy at the Miami home, saying he continued "to be
horrendously exploited in this bizarre and destructive
ambiance. It has gone on far too long."

 "It appears the government could have done a
better job at picking a consultant for this case based
on Dr. Redlener's political connections," said former
U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova. "I believe he is a
poor choice and I question the government's
judgment in naming him."

 Republican National Committee Chairman Jim
Nicholson called on Vice President Al Gore to
repudiate Dr. Redlener, who he said was "neither a
psychiatrist nor a psychologist and who has never
examined the young Cuban refugee."

 "Al Gore says he understands that Bill Clinton and
Janet Reno are wrong on this issue," Mr. Nicholson
said. "He says he understands that a family court . . .
should decide what is best for Elian."

 Dr. Redlener was not at his office yesterday and
was unavailable for comment.

 As a member of the first lady's health care task
force, the doctor served as the vice chairman of the
Health Professionals Review Group. Two years later,
after the proposal failed, he was among several
health care and White House officials who met to
discuss why the program was rejected and how a
pared-back proposal might be promoted the
following year.

 The president's Health Security Act failed to win
congressional approval in part because of concerns
over the secrecy the White House used in developing
the 1,400-page package.

 In 1997, a federal judge said the White House
and lawyers defending the first lady had lied in an
effort to keep the task force and its papers secret.
U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth also accused
administration officials at "the highest levels of
government" of engaging in a "cover-up" and
pressuring the Justice Department to defend its
"dishonest" actions.

 In recent months, Dr. Redlener has met with the
first lady concerning her run for the U.S. Senate in
New York. He also has been publicly critical of New
York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, chastising him for
withdrawing the city's money from a
multimillion-dollar asthma education and treatment
initiative in the Bronx — a $2.3 million program
endorsed by the first lady.

 Dr. 

[CTRL] Justice Dept. Lied!

2000-03-21 Thread The Extremist

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Justice Dept. Lied!

US attorney Denied tests show weapons fire. Confidential sources
say weekend tests prove Government murdered Davidians.

by William Cooper

Copyright 2000 VERITAS News Service All Rights Reserved

VNS Exclusive March 21, 2000 — A US Attorney spokesman for
the Justice Department blatantly lied during a press conference
Monday when he said the Waco FLIR tests conducted over the
weekend support the governments position that the flashes seen are
“glints,” or “reflections,” of light off of debri around the Davidian
Church. Confidential sources inform me that the test videos do not
reveal light “glints,“ or “reflections“ but instead prove beyond any
shadow of a doubt that the government attacked and intentionally
murdered the Branch Davidians when they attempted to flee their
burning Church.

The government has always denied any shots were fired by any
government personnel on April 19, 1993. Furthermore the Justice
Department has claimed that the flashes on the FLIR videos are not
gunfire but are “glints,” or “reflections”. All independent experts who
have examined the tapes have confirmed that indeed it can only
weapons fire directed at the Davidian Church by someone who was
working for the United States government.

Here is the kicker. While night vision scopes will “see” light, FLIR or
Forward Looking Infra Red cameras cannot and do not ever “see” or
“capture” any light from any source or reflection whatsoever. FLIR
can only see or pickup the infrared or heat portion of the
electromagnetic spectrum. You see, the government has been lying all
along in hopes of convincing the ignorant amongst us, and yes that
includes judges and Branch Davidian attorneys, that the gunfire is
really flashes of light captured on the video tapes... an impossibility
where FLIR is concerned.

Confidential sources, Patriots in government, tell me that military
personnel from Delta Force, upon orders of the President of the
United States, entered the Branch Davidian Church on April 19,
1993 and executed everyone that they could find who was still alive.
Members of Delta Force in support of armored vehicles, and FBI
snipers, murdered all of the Davidians who attempted to flee the fire.
Only those Davidians were allowed to survive who escaped on the
side of the building which was in the direct view of reporters using
telescopic lenses.

The government began their lies on February 28, 1993. They have
never stopped lying about what really transpired in Waco, Texas
ever-since. They lied in the affidavit used to obtain the warrant. They
lied about the true reason for the raid on the Church. They lied about
who fired the first shot. They lied to the American public and to the
Branch Davidians during the seige. They lied to the Governor of
Texas to justify the use of military personnel and equipment. They lied
about what Branch Davidians said and did during the 51 days of the
seige. They lied about what they intended to do on April 19, 1993.
They lied about what they actually did on that infamous day. They lied
about who started the fire. They lied when they said they never fired a
shot on April 19th. They lied about what was found in the ashes. They
manipulated evidence. They made evidence disappear. They turned
off electricity to the coolers in which bodies were stored in order to
insure decomposition before examination. They intimidated and
controlled the press. They intimidated and controlled the medical
examiner and coronor to manipulate the results of the autopsys. And
they lied about a lot of other things.

They have lied, and lied, and lied. And now they lie about so-called
“glints” or “reflections” of light off of junk around the Church... light
that could not ever have been captured on video by FLIR. Light that
FLIR does not and cannot “see”...
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[CTRL] Justice Department to review evidence after acquittal in Diallo case (fwd)

2000-02-25 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Justice Department to review evidence after acquittal in Diallo
case

Albany, N.Y.(CNN) -- The Justice Department announced it will
review the evidence in the trial of four white New York City
police officers who were acquitted on Friday of all charges in
the death of Amadou Diallo, an unarmed black man who was hit by
19 of 41 shots fired at him in the vestibule of his Bronx home
last February.

The Justice Department released the following statement on behalf
of Mary Jo White, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of
New York:

"Ms. White announced that, as in cases of this kind, her office,
in conjunction with the Civil Rights Division of the Department
of Justice, will review all of the available evidence with
respect to the death of Mr. Diallo, including the evidence
available to the District Attorney's Office in Bronx County, to
determine whether there were any violations of the federal
criminal civil rights laws."

The statement came shortly after the acquittal of the defendants
-- Kenneth Boss, Sean Carroll, Edward McMellon and Richard Murphy
-- who had all pleaded not guilty to the charge of second-degree
murder in the 1999 killing of Diallo, a 22-year-old immigrant
from the West African nation of Guinea.

Jurors also were allowed to consider lesser charges, including
first-degree manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, and
reckless endangerment.

Before the verdicts were read, Supreme Court Justice Joseph
Teresi issued a warning against any emotional outbursts in the
courtroom and ordered everyone to remain seated until all motions
were heard.

Several officers wiped back tears as they heard the jury
exonerate them. Carroll gripped a rosary as he listened to each
decision from the jurors. The families of the officers and
Diallo's mother were in the courtroom to hear the verdicts.
Diallo's mother was silent but wept and gripped the hands of her
brothers as the verdicts were read. Teresi thanked the jurors and
told them the state of New York had strict laws protecting their
privacy and that they were under no obligation to explain their
decision. Jurors refused to comment after they left the
courtroom.

During the third day of deliberations, the judge reread -- at the
jury's request --the legal guidelines under which the officers
could justify the shooting of Diallo as an act of self-defense.
Jurors also requested a reading of testimony from criminologist
James Fyfe, who said the officers followed proper procedures when
they asked Diallo to speak to them and approached him. The
officers testified Diallo did not respond to police commands.

And for the second time during their deliberations, jurors asked
to hear a reading of testimony from officers Carroll and
McMellon, who were the first to approach Diallo and who each
fired 16 shots.

Juror dismissed

Jurors, who were not sequestered until deliberations began, were
instructed every day by State Supreme Court Justice Joseph Teresi
not to discuss the trial outside the jury room.

Just before deliberations began Wednesday, Teresi said he
dismissed a white woman juror and replaced her with an alternate,
a white man, after an investigation by state police revealed she
had talked about the case outside the courtroom.

The judge said the dismissed juror apologized for her actions,
saying if she had it to do over again, she would not have talked
about the case. The judge described the woman as "very
embarrassed" about it.

The re-configured jury consisted of four black women, one white
woman and seven white men.

The trial was moved from the New York City borough of the Bronx
to Albany, New York -- 150 miles away -- because of intensive
pretrial publicity.

Closing arguments

Defense attorneys said in closing arguments Tuesday that jurors
should appreciate the fear of the officers the night they shot
Diallo, as they faced someone they thought was a dangerous man.

"They made a mistake," John Patten, attorney for officer Carroll
said. "But they honestly believed this guy was shooting at them."

Diallo was struck by 19 of 41 bullets fired at him by the
defendants on February 4, 1999.

Eric Warner of the Bronx District Attorney's office asked jurors
to put themselves into Diallo's shoes, describing what he said
the immigrant must have felt as he was approached by the four
white police officers.

"There wasn't a hint of justification. Who wouldn't be afraid,
faced with four big men with guns?" he said.

But defense lawyers told jurors that the prosecution had failed
to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the four officers were
not justified in firing their weapons at Diallo as he stood in
the vestibule of his apartment building.

Officers: Diallo was 'acting suspiciously'

The officers had testified that Diallo was acting suspiciously
and did not respond to their commands when they approached him.
Defense lawyers said an object Diallo pulled out of his pocket
was perceived to be a 

[CTRL] Justice official not prosecuted in leak (fwd)

2000-02-14 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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February 14, 2000

Justice official not
prosecuted in leak

By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 The Justice Department did not prosecute the
former head of its intelligence division despite his
admission to investigators that he disclosed classified
information, The Washington Times has learned.

 Richard Scruggs, a friend of Attorney General
Janet Reno's, who brought him to Washington,
provided secret information to two reporters about
an electronic eavesdropping FBI operation against
the Japanese group Aum Shin Rikyo in 1995,
according to Justice Department officials familiar with
the case.

 Justice Department officials disclosed some
aspects of the investigation into unauthorized
disclosure on condition of anonymity. It is the first
time information has been disclosed from the secret
court set up under the 1979 Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act.

 The Justice Department's downplaying of the
Scruggs findings is similar to the CIA's limited
response to former director John Deutch, who was
caught mishandling classified documents but not
prosecuted.
 In both cases, government officials have charged
that security infractions were covered up to protect
senior personnel.

 Mr. Scruggs, currently the chief of the public
corruption section for the U.S. Attorney's Office in
southern Florida, said in an interview with The Times
that he "indirectly confirmed" the classified
information presented to him by the two reporters.

 He denied being the original source for
information on the FBI surveillance of Aum Shin
Rikyo obtained by reporters Jim McGee and Brian
Duffy and disclosed in their book "Main Justice."

 The investigation was launched following
publication of a book on the Justice Department and
an excerpt that appeared in the Sunday magazine of
The Washington Post on June 23, 1996.

 Myron Marlin, Miss Reno's spokesman, said in
an interview: "Because of the Privacy Act we are not
in a position to acknowledge the [Office of
Professional Responsibility] investigation, but in such
investigations, when the department determines the
appropriate disciplinary action, it does not consider
the relations someone has with the attorney general."

 Mr. Duffy declined to comment on the matter and
said he was unaware of the probe of Mr. Scruggs.
Mr. McGee could not be reached for comment.

 Mr. Scruggs worked with Miss Reno when she
was a prosecutor in Florida and was offered a job on
her Justice Department staff in the early 1990s. He
was placed in charge of writing the 350-page "after
action report" on the Justice Department's handling of
the Branch Davidian standoff. The report was
submitted in October 1993, six months after the
incident.

 The Waco matter is currently being investigated
again by a special team of investigators headed by
former Sen. John C. Danforth. That probe was
called after new information surfaced last year
questioning the role of FBI agents at the site during a
51-day siege.

 Some officials suggested Mr. Scruggs was not
punished for disclosing intelligence because of his
friendship with Miss Reno and because he helped
protect her from criticism after the Waco affair.

 Mr. Scruggs also was singled out for criticism in a
recent internal Justice Department report on the
department's mishandling of the case of fired Los
Alamos scientist Wen Ho Lee, who is suspected of
passing nuclear weapons secrets to 

[CTRL] Justice in the Tank--NYTimes (fwd)

2000-02-10 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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February 10, 2000


ESSAY / By WILLIAM SAFIRE

Justice in the Tank

Loeb's delicatessen on 15th street serves the best hot corned
beef sandwich in town. It was there I ran into Lee Radek, who for
years has been successfully making certain that no investigation
of illegal Asian money poured into the Clinton-Gore campaign
touches any of the higher-ups.

Munching a pickle, I asked how come the current trial of Maria
Hsia -- the longtime Gore fund-raiser charged with using Buddhist
nuns as conduits for $140,000 in illegal contributions -- was
being held in Washington, rather than near the Hacienda Heights,
Calif., temple, scene of the alleged crime.

"We thought this would be a better venue," the chief of the
cover-up replied. From his concealing standpoint, he's right --
the nation's capital is far better for acquittal or most lenient
sentencing of the defendant.

Reno Justice wants none of the Clinton-Gore Asian funny-money
traffickers such as John Huang, Pauline Kanchanalak and Charlie
Trie to face punishment that might induce them to involve any of
the famous recipients of China's largess.

In moving the trial of Hsia (pronounced shaw) to Democratic D.C.,
Reno Justice was certain it would get a Clinton-appointed judge.
That's because in all the "Asian Connection" cases here, the
chief federal judge bypassed the normal random assignment
procedure to direct all those cases to Judge Paul Friedman.

After this liberal jurist relieved Clintonites in 1998 by
dismissing as "Alice in Wonderland" five of six felony counts
against Hsia, the Court of Appeals overruled him, reinstating the
charges whose prosecution he so reluctantly oversees today.
(Feeling the heat of criticism about being the repeatedly chosen
instrument of the cover-uppers, Friedman last week got the chief
judge's egregious assignments stopped.)

Reno's Radek not only has a demonstrably anti-prosecution
Democratic judge but the usual 90 percent Democratic D.C. jury.
Hsia's lawyer reminded it this week that the defendant "is a
minority, supports Democrats and has all her life."

Witnesses against Hsia? Not to worry. John Huang, having been
given a walk and thus under no coercion to talk, will remember
nothing about Clinton-Gore involvement. Two potentially
incriminating Buddhist temple money handlers, given immunity by
Justice in return for promises of testimony, have fled overseas.
(It just didn't occur to ever-trusting Radek to pick up their
passports.) The judge won't allow the absent witnesses'
grand-jury testimony to be used at the trial.

No wonder Justice considers D.C. the best place to pretend to be
prosecuting the Clinton-Gore milking of Asian money sources. Only
here can it safely point to Maria Hsia as the evil mastermind of
a secret plot -- and portray the vice president and members of
his staff who were present at the Buddhist temple fund-raiser as
the innocent victims of her nefarious scheme. This argues that
the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, also present
with his hand out, was duped as well.

Reno Justice thus dumps everybody's guilt on Maria Hsia's head,
treating her as the Dragon Lady of money-laundering -- all the
while confident of her acquittal or (if the jury surprises) sure
of her gentle treatment in sentencing, or (if the judge suddenly
wants to learn the truth) relying on her presidential pardon
right after Election Day.

About that awful word, "truth": At first Gore said the
fund-raiser was merely "community outreach"; months later, he
amended that to knowing only it was "finance-related." But Gore's
10-year relationship with Hsia was always based on her
fund-raising; Harold Ickes sent him a memo that John Huang was
organizing the temple event to raise $250,000; and there stood
fund-raising Maria in a golden robe when he walked in. Yet he
still denies he knew he was raising Asian-generated money in a
Buddhist temple.

But Gore has never denied it to the Justice Department. That's
because no prosecutor, no grand jury, no F.B.I. agent has ever
dared to ask the vice president. Janet Reno protected him as
Maria Hsia will protect him. Gore has broken no law because -- as
we have seen all too often in the Clinton administration -- there
is no law against misleading the public.



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Re: [CTRL] Justice in the Tank--NYTimes (fwd)

2000-02-10 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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  Gore has broken no law because -- as
 we have seen all too often in the Clinton administration -- there
 is no law against misleading the public 

And for that Mr. Safire should be delighted as well.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Justice War

1999-11-02 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From


{{Begin}}

REPORT ON THE 25 OCTOBER 1999
PARIS CONFERENCE ON
" J U S T I C E A N D W A R "

A dozen speakers from seven countries presented a devastating case against
NATO's illegal war against Yugoslavia at the international conference on
"Justice and War" held in Paris on Monday, October 25. The speakers included
jurists, experts and activists who have closely studied the background of the
Yugoslav conflict and NATO intervention.

Alternatives to War
Jan Oberg, director of the Transnational Foundation for Future and Peace
Research based in Lund, Sweden, attacked "the one biggest myth of the war":
that there was "nothing else to do" about the Kosovo problem. Oberg, who before
the NATO bombing had carried out some three dozen peace missions to Kosovo and
acted as advisor to the Kosovo Albanian leader Ibrahim Rugova, presented a long
list of sensible, practical things that could have been done to help solve the
Kosovo problem in a peaceful way. None had been tried by the Western powers.
Instead, the United States chose war and backed Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA)
chieftain Hashim Thaqi, "the Albanian equivalent of Arkan" (the notorious Serb
gangster), said Oberg.

Oberg stressed that none of the Western officials dealing with the Yugoslav
problems had any understanding of peaceful reconciliation methods. The first
thing to do to help solve a conflict, he stressed, is to listen to both sides,
to understand their needs and their fears. This was never done. American
journalist Diana Johnstone, who co-chaired the conference, accused the Clinton
administration of aggravating and exploiting the Kosovo problem in order to
inaugurate NATO's new mission of "humanitarian intervention". The
"humanitarian" pretense is the public relations cover for NATO expansion
eastwards for economic and strategic reasons.

Professor Raju George Thomas of Marquette University in Wisconsin (USA) warned
of the extremely negative impact on international relations of NATO's illegal
attack on a sovereign nation that had not committed any act of aggression.
Other powers will be encouraged to emulate NATO's aggressive behavior in
defense of their own national interests, while fear of NATO's unpredictable
expansion is certain to trigger a new worldwide arms race. An American citizen
of Indian origin, Professor Thomas stressed that India, like most of the world
(with the exception of NATO countries), did not believe the "humanitarian"
pretext for the NATO bombing and sympathized with Yugoslavia as the victim.

International Law and NATO Aggression
Roland Weyl, speaking on behalf of the International Association of Democratic
Jurists, denounced NATO's "open contempt" for the United Nations and the post-
World War II system of international law aimed at banning war. The bombing had
no legal basis and would be unjustifiable even if the United States succeeded
in turning the United Nations Security Council into a pliant rubber stamp to
approve NATO military operations.

Two contrasting views of the ambiguous concept of "self-determination", in
relation to Kosovo, were presented by Catherine Samary of the University of
Paris and Barbara Delcourt, who teaches international law at the Free
University of Brussels. While Samary tended to favor self-determination for
Kosovo Albanians, Delcourt pointed out that under existing international law,
self-determination did not imply secession except in regard to decolonization.
If the right of self-determination is to be broadened, this should be done
systematically by international convention, rather than ad hoc, Delcourt
argued. Today we are no longer in the period of decolonization, but in a
recolonization period where the "right to self-determination" mainly favors
nationalists and great power manipulations.

On the subject of a hypothetical "law of humanitarian intervention", Olivier
Corten, professor of international law at the Free University of Brussels,
noted that any such law is open to differing interpretations as to when it is
applicable. The purpose of a legal system is to provide procedures to mediate
between differing evaluations. There is no law without procedure, he stressed.
We are in danger of reverting to the 19th century practice of Great Powers
which regularly invoked "natural rights" to justify use of military force.
Toronto lawyer Christopher Black explained that the ad hoc "International
Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia (ICTY)" in The Hague is not a step
toward a real international criminal tribunal (a project that has encountered
U.S. opposition), but something quite contrary: a political tribunal instigated
by the United States for political purposes. The ICTY receives funding and
personnel from the United States government and private corporations, its chief
justice describes U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright as "the mother of
the tribunal", it ignored a brief presented by an international group of
lawyers calling for indictment of NATO 

[CTRL] Justice for People or to Make Lawyers Rich? [a must]

1999-09-09 Thread Bard

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Are you tired of a so called "Justice System" that has no regard for
justice? Are you tired of courts that are set up to make lawyers rich at the
expense of the rest of us. Well I sure as hell am and I'm ready to do
something about it. It's time that the people take back the courts from the
lawyers and insist on justice over profit.

 Everyone has either been screwed over by the courts or know someone who
has. Before it gets any worse than it is we need to put a stop to it. That's
why I, Marc Perkel have decided to put a stop to it and I'm forming People
before Lawyers and hoping that somehow we can reverse the deterioration of
the American court system.

So what am I going to do about it? How am I going to overthrow the corrupt
justice system and bring integrity back to our courts? I don't know. I
haven't figured that out yet, but I'm working on it. I do have some ideas
which I'll get into later. And if you have any ideas, let me know.

The first thing though is to understand the problem and what it's all about.
It is my strongly held conviction that the government is here to serve the
people and not the people to serve the government. That the court system is
here to provide justice for the citizens and not to give lawyers the
opportunity to rape people using the courts as a weapon against the people.
Judges are our servants, not out rulers. And this concept is supported in
the Rules of the Supreme Court which states as follows:

From the preamble to
Supreme Court Rule 4
"The legal profession's relative autonomy carries with it special
responsibilities of self government. The profession has a responsibility to
assure that its regulations are conceived in the public interest and not in
furtherance of parochial or self-interested concerns of the bar."

We must always remember that the name says it all. When they cry like a
stuck pig about what a great burden it will be on the legal community to
have ethics imposed on judges and lawyers, we must never forget that the
right of the public take precedents over the profits of attorneys.
 The Declaration of Independence starts with the words We the People. That's
what America is about, it's about US. The court system is OURS. They are
here to serve US. WE are not here to serve THEM. The courts are here for
citizens to resolve our differences as quickly, efficiently, and
inexpensively as possible. The courts are not here to suck the wealth from
society and give it to lawyers. We must Stop Welfare for Lawyers.

FOR MORE:  http://www.perkel.com/pbl/

Bard

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[CTRL] Justice Dept. Pushes For Power to Unlock PC Security Systems - Covert Acts Could Target Homes, Offices

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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A
HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-08/20/144l-082099-idx.h
tml"Justice Dept. Pushes For Power to Unlock PC Sec /A
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Justice Dept. Pushes For Power to Unlock PC Security Systems
Covert Acts Could Target Homes, Offices
By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 20, 1999; Page A01

The Justice Department wants to make it easier for law enforcement
authorities to obtain search warrants to secretly enter suspects' homes
or offices and disable security on personal computers as a prelude to a
wiretap or further search, according to documents and interviews with
Clinton administration officials.

In a request set to go to Capitol Hill, Justice officials will ask
lawmakers to authorize covert action in response to the growing use of
software programs that encrypt, or scramble, computer files, making them
inaccessible to anyone who does not have a special code or "key,"
according to an Aug. 4 memo by the department that describes the plan.

Justice officials worry that such software "is increasingly used as a
means to facilitate criminal activity, such as drug trafficking,
terrorism, white-collar crime, and the distribution of child
pornography," according to the memo, which has been reviewed by the
Office of Management and Budget and other agencies.

Legislation drafted by the department, called the Cyberspace Electronic
Security Act, would enable investigators to get a sealed warrant signed
by a judge permitting them to enter private property, search through
computers for passwords and install devices that override encryption
programs, the Justice memo shows.

The law would expand existing search warrant powers to allow agents to
penetrate personal computers for the purpose of disabling encryption. To
extract information from the computer, agents would still be required to
get additional authorization from a court.

The proposal is the latest twist in an intense, years-long debate
between the government and computer users who want to protect their
privacy by encrypting documents.

Although Justice officials say their proposal is "consistent with
constitutional principles," the idea has alarmed civil libertarians and
members of Congress.

"They have taken the cyberspace issue and are using it as justification
for invading the home," said James Dempsey, senior staff counsel at the
Center for Democracy and Technology, an advocacy group in the District
that tracks privacy issues.

Police rarely use covert entry to pave the way for electronic
surveillance. For example, federal law enforcement agencies obtained
court approval just 34 times last year under eavesdropping statutes to
install microphones, according to the 1998 wiretap report issued by the
Administrative Office of the Unites States Courts.

David L. Sobel, general counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information
Center, predicted the number of secret break-ins by police would soar if
the proposal is adopted because personal computers offer such a
tantalizing source of evidence for investigators -- including memos,
diaries, e-mail, bank records and a wealth of other data.

"Traditionally, the concept of 'black bag' jobs, or surreptitious
entries, have been reserved for foreign intelligence," Sobel said. "Do
we really want to alter the standard for physical entry?"

The proposal follows unsuccessful efforts by FBI Director Louis J. Freeh
and other Justice officials to secure laws requiring computers or
software to include "back doors" that would enable investigators to
sidestep encryption.

Those proposals, most notably one called Clipper Chip, have been
criticized by civil libertarians and have received little support in
Congress.

In a snub of the administration, more than 250 members of Congress have
co-sponsored legislation that would prohibit the government from
mandating "back doors" into computer systems.

"We want to help law enforcement deal with the new technologies. But we
want to do it in ways that protect the privacy rights of law-abiding
citizens," said Rep. Robert W. Goodlatte (R-Va.), who originally
sponsored the legislation, known as the Security and Freedom Through
Encryption Act. Goodlatte said the Justice Department's proposal might
upset the "very finely tuned balance" between law enforcement power and
civil liberties.

But Justice Department officials say there is an increasingly urgent
need for FBI agents and other federal investigators to get around
encryption and other security programs.

"We've already begun to encounter [encryption's] harmful effects," said
Justice spokeswoman Gretchen Michael. "What we've seen to date is just
the tip of the iceberg."

The proposed law also would clarify how state and federal authorities
can seek court orders to obtain software encryption "keys" that suspects
might give to others for safekeeping. Although few people share such
keys now, officials anticipate that they will do so more often in the
future.

Administration officials 

[CTRL] Justice Department Mulls Covert-Action Bill

1999-08-20 Thread K

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
srv/business/daily/aug99/encryption20.htm

Justice Department Mulls Covert-Action Bill By Robert O’Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 20, 1999; Page A1 The Justice Department wants
to make it easier for law enforcement authorities to obtain search
warrants to secretly enter suspects' homes or offices and disable
security on personal computers as a prelude to a wiretap or further
search, according to documents and interviews with Clinton
administration officials.
In a request set to go to Capitol Hill, Justice officials will ask
lawmakers to authorize covert action in response to the growing
use of software programs that encrypt, or scramble, computer files,
making them inaccessible to anyone who does not have a special
code or "key," according to an Aug. 4 memo by the department
that describes the plan.
Justice officials worry that such software "is increasingly used as a
means to facilitate criminal activity, such as drug trafficking,
terrorism, white-collar crime, and the distribution of child
pornography," according to the memo, which has been reviewed by
the Office of Management and Budget and other agencies.
Legislation drafted by the department, called the Cyberspace
Electronic Security Act, would enable investigators to get a sealed
warrant signed by a judge permitting them to enter private property,
search through computers for passwords and install devices that
override encryption programs, the Justice memo shows.
The law would expand existing search warrant powers to allow
agents to penetrate personal computers for the purpose of
disabling encryption. To extract information from the computer,
agents would still be required to get additional authorization from a
court.
The proposal is the latest twist in an intense, years-long debate
between the government and computer users who want to protect
their privacy by encrypting documents.
Although Justice officials say their proposal is "consistent with
constitutional principles," the idea has alarmed civil libertarians and
members of Congress.
"They have taken the cyberspace issue and are using it as
justification for invading the home," said James Dempsey, senior
staff counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology, an
advocacy group in the District that tracks privacy issues.
Police rarely use covert entry to pave the way for electronic
surveillance. For example, federal law enforcement agencies
obtained court approval just 34 times last year under eavesdropping
statutes to install microphones, according to the 1998 wiretap
report issued by the Administrative Office of the Unites States
Courts.
David L. Sobel, general counsel at the Electronic Privacy
Information Center, predicted the number of secret break-ins by
police would soar if the proposal is adopted because personal
computers offer such a tantalizing source of evidence for
investigators -- including memos, diaries, e-mail, bank records and
a wealth of other data.
"Traditionally, the concept of 'black bag' jobs, or surreptitious
entries, have been reserved for foreign intelligence," Sobel said.
"Do we really want to alter the standard for physical entry?"
The proposal follows unsuccessful efforts by FBI Director Louis J.
Freeh and other Justice officials to secure laws requiring
computers or software to include "back doors" that would enable
investigators to sidestep encryption.
Those proposals, most notably one called Clipper Chip, have been
criticized by civil libertarians and have received little support in
Congress.
In a snub of the administration, more than 250 members of
Congress have co-sponsored legislation that would prohibit the
government from mandating "back doors" into computer systems.
"We want to help law enforcement deal with the new technologies.
But we want to do it in ways that protect the privacy rights of law-
abiding citizens," said Rep. Robert W. Goodlatte (R-Va.), who
originally sponsored the legislation, known as the Security and
Freedom Through Encryption Act. Goodlatte said the Justice
Department's proposal might upset the "very finely tuned balance"
between law enforcement power and civil liberties.
But Justice Department officials say there is an increasingly urgent
need for FBI agents and other federal investigators to get around
encryption and other security programs.
"We've already begun to encounter [encryption's] harmful effects,"
said Justice spokeswoman Gretchen Michael. "What we've seen to
date is just the tip of the iceberg."
The proposed law also would clarify how state and federal
authorities can seek court orders to obtain software encryption
"keys" that suspects might give to others for safekeeping. Although
few people share such keys now, officials anticipate that they will
do so more often in the future.
Administration officials played down the potential impact on civil
liberties. In interviews, two officials said the law would actually
bolster privacy protections by 

Re: [CTRL] Justice Department Mulls Covert-Action Bill

1999-08-20 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 8/20/99 3:43:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Justice Department Mulls Covert-Action Bill By Robert O’Harrow Jr.
  Washington Post Staff Writer
  Friday, August 20, 1999; Page A1 The Justice Department wants
  to make it easier for law enforcement authorities to obtain search
  warrants to secretly enter suspects' homes or offices and disable
  security on personal computers as a prelude to a wiretap or further
  search, according to documents and interviews with Clinton
  administration officials.

I know I shouldn't find this INCREDIBLE considering the nature of the Police
State of America, BUT REALLY!  How FAR do they intend to go?  Why not
just slip in tear gas or knock out gas, BEFORE you are a suspect to see IF
you may have done something wrong, THEN get a search warrant and THEN and
ONLY THEN bust down your door at 3:00 AM with a no knock warrant.  All the
while congratulating themselves on a job well done and pocketing the
forfeited possessions of the people involved.

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[CTRL] Justice Dept. Ignoring Evidence On Chinese Campaign Contributions (fwd)

1999-07-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Fox News-8.08 p.m. ET (0008 GMT) July 27, 1999

Justice Dept. Ignoring Evidence
On Chinese Campaign Contributions

By Carl Cameron

A Justice Department task force investigating alleged illegal
foreign contributions to the Democratic Party has possessed
potentially incriminating documents since the fall of 1997, Fox
News has learned.

The documents — bank records from Citibank, which has branches in
New York, Los Angeles and Hong Kong — indicate that big-time
Democratic donor Johnny Chung received $300,000 from Chinese
government officials.

Sources say Chung in 1997 turned over the records, which show he
received a wire transfer from Citibank's Hong Kong branch from
Liu Chaoying, a vice president at China Aerospace, a firm that
helps loft satellites into orbit on Chinese rockets.

China Aerospace has worked numerous times with U.S. satellite
makers Hughes Electronics and Loral Space  Communications, whose
chief executive, Bernard L. Schwartz, was the top donor to
President Clinton's re-election campaign, contributing almost $1
million.

Liu Chaoying, who is also a lieutenant colonel in China's
People's Liberation Army, introduced Chung to the head of Chinese
military intelligence, Gen. Ji Shengde, who arranged to have
$300,000 wired to Chung, who has since said he gave only a small
portion of that money to the Democrats. Gen. Ji was recently
demoted from his position, reportedly because of the transfer of
funds.

Chung has pled guilty to campaign finance violations and is
cooperating with government investigators. His appearance before
Congress in May was the first voluntary appearance by more than
100 people with connections to alleged Chinese attempts to
influence the 1996 elections.

Sources say the Justice Dept. never bothered to pursue the bank
records, a simple piece of evidence that would have revealed that
the origin of Chung's cash was one of China's top spies.

A senior DOJ task force source said investigators chose to
concentrate on other leads and in recent months have run into
problems with Citibank's reluctance to supply additional
information. The DOJ source said both U.S. and Chinese banking
regulations made pursuing the lead very difficult.

More Leads Ignored

There is also a battle raging within the Department of Justice
campaign finance task force over how to proceed with the
plea-bargained sentencing of long-time Clinton friend and
fund-raiser Yah-Lin Charlie Trie, who has pleaded guilty to
fund-raising violations.

Sources familiar with Trie's DOJ cooperation say some FBI
investigators want to hold off on Trie's sentencing in order to
pursue his allegations that top Democratic National Committee and
White House officials were aware of — and on at least two
occasions encouraged — illegally funneled foreign contributions
to the Democratic Party during the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign.

Sources close to Trie say he has been trying to tell
investigators about several alleged illegal contributions from a
mysterious Macao businessman named Ng Lap Seng.

Also known as Mr. Wu, Seng, who has ties to Asian organized
crime, allegedly funneled several hundred thousand dollars to the
DNC through various illegal means.

Sources with knowledge of Trie's testimony say, however, that
top-level Justice Dept. political appointees have expressed
little interest in Trie's revelations and want the case wrapped
up.

Sources say Johnny Chung, too, is telling friends he offered the
Justice Dept. new details of White House and DNC knowledge of
foreign fund-raising impropriety, but investigators "did not want
to hear it."

One senior Justice Dept. prosecutor expressed his frustration to
Fox News, saying there is "fertile ground" to till and that he is
being pressed to ignore it.

Chung, meanwhile, is trying to get a book deal. Sources say he
has been turned down by several publishers because he is seeking
a million-dollar advance.


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[CTRL] Justice Dept. Ignoring Evidence On Chinese Campaign Contributions (fwd)

1999-07-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Justice Dept. Ignoring Evidence On Chinese Campaign Contributions

Source: Fox News

9.39 a.m. ET (1339 GMT) July 27, 1999
By Carl Cameron


A Justice Department task force investigating alleged illegal
foreign contributions to the Democratic Party has possessed
potentially incriminating documents since the fall of 1997, Fox
News has learned.

The documents — bank records from Citibank, which has branches in
New York, Los Angeles and Hong Kong — indicate that big-time
Democratic donor Johnny Chung received $300,000 from Chinese
government officials.

Sources say Chung in 1997 turned over the records, which show he
received a wire transfer from Citibank's Hong Kong branch from
Liu Chaoying, a vice president at China Aerospace, a firm that
helps loft satellites into orbit on Chinese rockets. China
Aerospace has worked numerous times with U.S. satellite makers
Hughes Electronics and Loral Space  Communications, whose chief
executive, Bernard L. Schwartz, was the top donor to President
Clinton's re-election campaign, contributing almost $1 million.

Liu Chaoying, who is also a lieutenant colonel in China's
People's Liberation Army, introduced Chung to the head of Chinese
military intelligence, Gen. Ji Shengde, who arranged to have
$300,000 wired to Chung, who has since said he gave only a small
portion of that money to the Democrats. (Gen. Ji was recently
demoted from his position, reportedly because of the transfer of
funds.)

Chung has pled guilty to campaign finance violations and is
cooperating with government investigators. His appearance before
Congress in May was the first voluntary appearance by more than
100 people with connections to alleged Chinese attempts to
influence the 1996 elections.

Sources say the Justice Dept. never bothered to pursue the bank
records, a simple piece of evidence that would have revealed that
the origin of Chung's cash was one of China's top spies.

A senior DOJ task force source said investigators chose to
concentrate on other leads and in recent months have run into
problems with Citibank's reluctance to supply additional
information. The DOJ source said both U.S. and Chinese banking
regulations made pursuing the lead very difficult.

More Leads Ignored

There is also a battle raging within the Department of Justice
campaign finance task force over how to proceed with the
plea-bargained sentencing of long-time Clinton friend and
fund-raiser Yah-Lin Charlie Trie, who has pleaded guilty to
fund-raising violations.

Sources familiar with Trie's DOJ cooperation say some FBI
investigators want to hold off on Trie's sentencing in order to
pursue his allegations that top Democratic National Committee and
White House officials were aware of — and on at least two
occasions encouraged — illegally funneled foreign contributions
to the Democratic Party during the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign.

Sources close to Trie say he has been trying to tell
investigators about several alleged illegal contributions from a
mysterious Macao businessman named Ng Lap Seng.

Also known as Mr. Wu, Seng, who has ties to Asian organized
crime, allegedly funneled several hundred thousand dollars to the
DNC through various illegal means.

Sources with knowledge of Trie's testimony say, however, that
top-level Justice Dept. political appointees have expressed
little interest in Trie's revelations and want the case wrapped
up.

Sources say Johnny Chung, too, is telling friends he offered the
Justice Dept. new details of White House and DNC knowledge of
foreign fund-raising impropriety, but investigators "did not want
to hear it."

One senior Justice Dept. prosecutor expressed his frustration to
Fox News, saying there is "fertile ground" to till and that he is
being pressed to ignore it.

Chung, meanwhile, is trying to get a book deal. Sources say he
has been turned down by several publishers because he is seeking
a million-dollar advance.



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[CTRL] Justice

1999-01-02 Thread JAH Publications



Dear Andre,

The punishment is not supposed to fit the crime. 
Punishment is supposed to prevent the crime from happening.

Prevention is better than cure. Why do you think 
America built a nuclear deterrent. So it wouldn't have to use it.

Enough said?

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. Who do you think knows most about Justice and 
what is best for you and America ("In God we trust"), you; the founding fathers; 
or God? Serious question. Does America really trust in God or is that just a 
another trendy cliche?


[CTRL] Justice Department Probes CIA For Possible Leaks

1998-12-06 Thread Steve Wingate

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Justice Department Probes CIA For Possible Leaks

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Copyright © 1998 The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (December 5, 1998 7:39 p.m. EST
http://www.nandotimes.com) -- The Justice Department is conducting an
obstruction-of-justice probe of CIA officials who passed along to a satellite
contractor sensitive information about a Senate investigation into
technology transfers to China.

Government officials reached late Friday said the criminal investigation
centers on information passed by the intelligence agency to Hughes
Electronics Corp., maker of both commercial and spy satellite systems.

At issue is whether that information compromised a Senate Intelligence
Committee investigation into allegations that Hughes and other U.S.
companies violated federal export laws by sharing restricted technology
with China as part of commercial satellite export deals.

There is no dispute that the CIA passed information on to Hughes -- the
CIA has acknowledged as much to both the Senate committee and
the Justice Department. The question being examined by the department is
whether the CIA broke the law in doing so.

"The CIA is cooperating fully with the investigation," said an agency
spokesman.

The probe was first reported in today's editions of The Washington Post
and the New York Times .

U.S. officials familiar with the investigation said it focused on two incidents
in which information connected with the Senate investigation was
passed by CIA officials to counterparts at Hughes.

The CIA told Hughes officials that one of the agency's analysts, Ronald
Pandolfi, had told Senate investigators that he had concluded as early
as 1995 that Hughes had become too aggressive in marketing technology
to China.

CIA officials also advised Hughes that some company officials might be
called before the Senate panel. The agency further sought to make
available to Senate investigators the names of Hughes executives who
were familiar with the technology transfers to China and could give
their version of the disagreements with Pandolfi.

When the CIA informed the panel it had told Hughes that company officials
might have to testify, committee staffers and some senators were
furious, according to officials familiar with the case.

Several CIA officials, including general counsel Robert McNamara, are
scheduled to testify before a federal grand jury investigating the CIA's
role in the Hughes case.

The potential case against the CIA appears to boil down to one of
interpretation. Some on the intelligence committee argue that the CIA may
have obstructed justice by revealing to Hughes information about the
committee investigation.

The CIA, according to U.S. officials familiar with the case, argues that the
information passed on to Hughes was shared in the normal course
of business and that the committee was informed of the information sharing.

"At worst, this could be viewed as a miscommunication among government
agencies," said one U.S. official who spoke on condition of
anonymity.

Several investigations -- both by the Justice Department and Congress --
have focused on concerns that China received valuable information
useful in improving ballistic missiles from U.S. contractors who were
ostensibly working with China on commercial satellite projects.

By JOHN DIAMOND, Associated Press Writer



Steve Wingate
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