Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-09 Thread Sean McDougal
-Caveat Lector- From: Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] The downside is the very human need to "belong"--a need that all these groups play on shamelessly, as do traditional religions-- and once you've found the autonomyand developed that cynicism about groups that these experiences engenderwell,you

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-08 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 7 Sep 99, , Das wrote: In the late '60s and early '70s I travelled on the periphery of the inner circles out of which came the "New Age," first wave, and I personally witnessed --VERY personally, e.g., in private conversations with many of the notables, who confided in

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-07 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-06 15:01:36 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have met many of the NLP enthusiasts that exist in Northern California. North California, you may know, has been the international hotbed for NLP development for some time. None of the individuals I have met

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-07 Thread Taylor, John (JH)
however awaits new tests and had an open mind, but to his knowledge it was basically bunk. -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 1999 11:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply] -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-06 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-05 13:55:14 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: because the devisers of NLP --Bandler Grinder-- clearly and explicitly created their system as a way of "pinning down" the extraordinary abilitity of one man, Dr Milton Erickson, to "hypnotize." Mnsr

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-06 Thread Anon Ymous
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for the excellent synopsis Goat! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-06 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/6/99 1:54:06 AM, you wrote: Thanks for the excellent synopsis Goat! Hear, hear, Thanks. A good day , blessings. Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-06 Thread Sean McDougal
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] In his later years (he died in 1980), Dr Erickson was visited by unknowns Bandler and Grinder, who (I believe) had helped in preparation of Erickson's "Complete Works" and who pressed him to teach them his

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP? [reply]

1999-09-06 Thread Jean Staffen
-Caveat Lector- Thank you, Mr. Goat. I rest my case. Jean At 05:38 AM 9/6/99 EDT, Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-05 13:55:14 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: because the devisers of NLP --Bandler Grinder-- clearly and

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-06 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Sep 99, , Jean wrote: -Caveat Lector- According to a friend of mine who studied NLP, with an eye to setting up a practice, it was devised by the CIA as a means of "interrogation". Neurolinguistic Programming is a variant on mind control techniques in that it

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-05 Thread Jean Staffen
-Caveat Lector- According to a friend of mine who studied NLP, with an eye to setting up a practice, it was devised by the CIA as a means of "interrogation". Neurolinguistic Programming is a variant on mind control techniques in that it installs "alters" to carry out certain tasks and "anchors"

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-05 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-05 03:10:04 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to a friend of mine who studied NLP, with an eye to setting up a practice, it was devised by the CIA as a means of "interrogation". Neurolinguistic Programming is a variant on mind control techniques

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-05 Thread Sean McDougal
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Gus Delao [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way, does anybody knows what really NLP is? Is it just another kind of mental control? Or is it more spiritual and truly healing? Thanks, Gustavo.

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-05 Thread Sean McDougal
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Jean Staffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] NLP is a nasty, mind-messing bit of business that began and remains in the very worst hands. Gregory Bateson did the seminal work on the NLP process. Jean -- The premier

Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-05 Thread Sean McDougal
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to see some corroboration for these assertions, because the devisers of NLP --Bandler Grinder-- clearly and explicitly created their system as a way of "pinning down" the extraordinary abilitity of one

[CTRL] What really is NLP?

1999-09-04 Thread Gus Delao
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Wayne Skews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 12:38 AM To: Ncnculture-L (E-mail) Subject: RE: Aphorism 210 and mental symptoms " in all cases of disease ...the state of the patient's disposition is to be