[CTRL] India child sacrifice, Toledo ritual murder, muti murder, lawsuits,survivor site
-Caveat Lector- describes crimes Horror of India's child sacrificeNavdip Dhariwal BBC News, Uttar Pradesh, India 12 April 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4903390.stm and Priest's trial in death of nun will include talk of rituals, cults James Ewing The Plain Dealer 12 April 2006 http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1144831242135580.xmlcoll=2 Toledo "There are no little murders. But Gerald Robinson is about to go on trial in Toledo for one that is unusually large, judging by the interest. He is a Roman Catholic priest. The victim, Sister Margaret Ann Pahl, was a nun, and the slaying occurred more than 20 years ago, in the chapel of a hospital where they worked. The crime is anchored to Easter Sunday - the most sacred, defining day in Christendom. It occurred on Holy Saturday 1980, the day before Easter and what would have been the nun's 72nd birthday. Robinson's murder trial begins Monday, the day after Easter 2006, when a Lucas County Common Pleas judge begins empaneling a jury under the glare of national - and quite possibly international - media attention. And why wouldn't the media descend? There are intimations of a ritual killing, satanic cults, organized sexual abuse and an institutional cover-up. Someone strangled and stabbed Pahl at least 30 times - the wounds defining an inverted cross. Some of her clothes were pulled off, suggesting a sexual assault." http://ra-watch.livejournal.com/ World Talk Radio : Darkness to Light - Breaking the Conspiracy of Silence“Oprah Winfrey declared that child molestation is a global epidemic.” http://www.worldtalkradio.com/show.asp?sid=189 describes crimes - South African police accused of ignoring ritual murders Stephen Bevan in Pretoria 3/26/06 "Even in a country grown accustomed to horrific acts of violence, it is a crime that still shocks. ''Muti murder'', in which human body parts are removed to be used in traditional "medicine", is increasing in South Africa - but victims' families complain that the police too often ignore it." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/26/wsaf26.xmlsSheet=/news/2006/03/26/ixworld.html Church battling plans to ease abuse lawsuits 4/13/06 By Richard Willing, USA TODAY "The Catholic Church is having early success in fighting proposals in state legislatures that would permit people claiming they were sexually abused as children to sue priests and other church officials long after the alleged offenses occurred. Measures proposed in nine states would suspend statutes of limitation and allow lawsuits to be filed regardless of when an alleged offense took place. The proposals are patterned on a 2003 California law that allowed a one-year window for suits to be filed there without regard to the statute of limitations. Since March, aggressive lobbying by the church helped to bottle up such a measure in a state Senate committee in Maryland, and to alter the language of an Ohio bill to rule out new lawsuits. A bill in Colorado's Legislature is being debated, but it's a long shot because of intense Catholic opposition, the bill's supporters say. The church is gearing up to fight proposals in Delaware, Hawaii, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin." http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2006-04-12-catholics_x.htm Surviving Ritual Torture - A Survivor’s Site http://www.geocities.com/survivingtorture/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India' energy minister It's hard to find reliable energy supplies
-Caveat Lector- Check out the article. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1301207.cms Note: Since ANWR is under the political control of the united states, It is certainly more reliable than oil supplies from Nigeria, venezula the entire mid-east Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India Asks U.S. To Extradite Former Union Carbide Chairman
-Caveat Lector- http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0709-09.htm Published on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 by OneWorld.net India Asks U.S. To Extradite Former Union Carbide Chairman by the Environment News Service WASHINGTON - The International Campaign for Justice in Bhopal (ICJB) and survivors organizations have prompted the Indian government to serve a longstanding notice to the U.S. government to extradite former Union Carbide Chairman Warren Anderson. Anderson is wanted in the Bhopal Court for his primary role in the 1984 gas disaster in Bhopal that has claimed more than 20,000 lives to date. "This long awaited move is a major step foward in our struggle for justice," said Rashida Bee, president of the Bhopal Gas Peedit Mahila Stationery Karmachari Sangh (Bhopal Gas-Affected Women Stationery Workers Association). "We will ensure that this is not just a token gesture." Warren Anderson at his home in Bridgehampton, New York. (Daily Mirror Photo/Shannon Sweeney) Bee said her organization will continue to pressure the Indian government until Anderson and others responsible face trial in the ongoing criminal case, and ICJB says its network of U.S. supporters has already initiated moves to ensure that the U.S. government honors the extradition request. "After all the talk about justice, it is now time for the U.S. government to walk the walk and get Anderson to face criminal trial in Bhopal," said Krishnaveni Gundu, ICJB's coordinator in the United States. The request for Anderson's extradition has come after three years of intense pressure on the Indian government by survivors' organizations in Bhopal, their supporters worldwide and the court of the Chief Judicial Magistrate in Bhopal. During the early hours of December 3, 1984, methyl isocyanate gas leaked from a storage tank at a Union Carbide pesticide manufacturing facility in Bhopal. As it escaped, the gas moved across adjacent communities killing thousands of people and injuring many thousands more. According to the Indian government, some 3,800 people died, but others estimate that as many as 8,000 people were killed by the gas. Billed as the world's worst industrial disaster, the Bhopal tragedy injured 500,000 people. Survivors and their children are impoverished and continue to suffer drastic long term effects in the absence of economic rehabilitation measures and appropriate medical care. According to the latest official estimates, 380 gas affected people succumb to health effects each year, and more than 20,000 are exposed to the toxic wastes lying in and around the Union Carbide factory site in Bhopal. In 1992, the Bhopal court declared Warren Anderson a fugitive from justice, after he ignored a summons issued by the Bhopal court to appear in the criminal case. Anderson and Union Carbide stand accused of manslaughter, grievous assault, poisoning and killing of animals and other serious offenses. In February 2001, the Dow Chemical Company based in Midland, Michigan acquired Union Carbide as a 100 percent subsidiary. However, Dow has refused to accept Carbide's Bhopal liabilities. In 2002, documents unearthed in the process of a class action suit against Anderson and Union Carbide in New York revealed that not only did Union Carbide knowingly export untested and hazardous technology to Bhopal, but also that this decision was authorized personally by Anderson. "Criminal trial of corporate CEOs is not merely a necessary legal measure for justice in Bhopal," said Raj Sharma, the attorney representing the survivors in the class action suit. "It is an essential prerequisite for tackling the growing crisis of corporate crime." Copyright 2003 OneWorld.net Record Heat Hits Anchorage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arson-salvage/message/43 * Do you Yahoo!? www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
[CTRL] India Unites W/ Pakistan
-Caveat Lector- http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_166919,0008.htm Action against Iraq inconceivable after UN report: Fernandes Press Trust of India Bangalore, February 15 Defence Minister George Fernandes on Saturday said it would be inconceivable that US should take any action against Iraq after the UN inspectors have found no weapons of mass destruction there and reaffirmed India's position that the issue must be resolved amicably. Fernandes also made it clear that India could not support the United States on its present position on the Iraq issue and it could not be part of anything where the United Nations is not involved. It would be inconceivable that US should take any action after what has been submitted to the UN Security Council yesterday by all those who were concerned with the search and also by the stand that has been taken by the members of the Security Council like France, Germany, Russia and China and other countries that have been associated with this opposition (to war), Fernandes told PTI in New Delhi. He said it was not opposition for opposition's sake because it has now been finally confirmed. It is an obvious situation where Iraq has been found to be without any weapons of mass destruction. Asked if the United States had sought India's support on the Iraq issue, he shot back, India cannot support. How can India support. India, he said, had consistently said that the matter had to be resolved amicably and it can be resolved amicably. Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many genera- tions. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumoured by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sut A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India tells Pakistan: let's fight
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936 ,5593931%255E401,00.html India tells Pakistan: let's fight 01dec02 INDIA'S deputy prime minister has issued a direct challenge to nuclear-armed rival Pakistan to drop its alleged support for the Muslim insurgency in Kashmir or fight another war over the disputed Himalayan territory. The challenge came from Deputy Prime Minister Lal Krishna Advani, who also insisted that Pakistan was fighting a proxy war in Kashmir by arming and training Islamic rebels in the divided frontier territory. Let us fight it out face-to-face. We have fought thrice, let there be a fourth war, Advani told a pre-election campaign rally in the western Indian district of Bhuj in the state of Gujarat. The deputy premier, kicking off a campaign for Gujarat's state election on December 12, said a fully-fledged war was preferable to the recurring terror attacks in India, which New Delhi blames on Islamabad. Killing of innocent civilians by attacking temples like Akshardham and Raghunath is unacceptable, he said of the two raids by Islamic gunmen in September and November which led to the death of nearly 50 Hindu devotees. India and Pakistan have fought two of their three wars, since the subcontinent's independence from British colonial rule in 1947, over Kashmir. The first conflict was in 1947-48 and the two sides again fought over Kashmir in 1965. The last military engagement, in 1971, led to the creation of Bangladesh as an independent nation from Pakistan's eastern rump. Advani, a hardline Hindu leader, said Pakistan was stirring up rebellion in Kashmir because it was nursing a wound since the creation of Bangladesh, when Islamabad signed a peace treaty virtually dictated by India in 1971. His dare came on the back of an Indian warning earlier this month that it would not seek external help to combat terrorism. India can deal with terrorism on its own. We are not dependent on the international community for a solution ... This is a fight India has to wage, Foreign Minister Yashwant Sinha told parliament on November 21. More than 37,500 people have died in Kashmir, India's only Muslim- majority state, since the start of the anti-Indian rebellion in Kashmir in 1989. Pakistan denies sponsoring the militants and insists that it only offers moral and diplomatic support to what it argues is the Kashmiris' struggle against Indian rule in the troubled region. India and Pakistan came dangerously close to a fourth war in 1999 when India launched a full-scale military assault to dislodge Pakistan-backed forces holding key heights in the Indian zone of Kashmir. Until recently the two countries had hundreds of thousands of troops on their shared border following the December 13, 2001 attack on the Indian parliament, which New Delhi blames on Pakistan-based militant groups. -- Outgoing mail is certified virus free Scanned by Norton AntiVirus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India Hounds Nepal Maoists
-Caveat Lector- copied from http://www.rwor.org/A/V24/1161-1170/1164/nepal-india.htm India Hounds Nepal Maoists Revolutionary Worker #1164, August 25, 2002, posted at rwor.org There is a long history of Indian domination in Nepal and now, as the People's War in Nepal intensifies, India is increasingly coming to the aid of the reactionary Nepalese government. The Maoist insurgency, led by the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) is aimed at overthrowing the oppressive Nepalese government and monarchy and has gained widespread support since it began in 1996. Soon after September 11, the Foreign Minister of India started calling Maoists in Nepal "terrorists." Then in November, Nepal's government followed India's lead --officially putting the "terrorist" label on the CPN (Maoist) and unleashing the Royal Nepalese Army to wage a brutal "search and destroy" campaign against the People's War. Hundreds of people have been killed, arrested and tortured. And under a "state of emergency" all kinds of constitutional rights have been suspended. The Indian government quickly sent 11 trucks full of sophisticated weapons and surveillance equipment to the Nepalese government, as well as two Cheetah helicopters. Arms for a Reactionary Regime The rulers in Nepal hoped to quickly wipe out the Maoist guerrillas. But government soldiers have found themselves up against a People's Liberation Army that is able to mobilize thousands of trained guerrillas and people's militias to launch successful military raids against the Royal Nepalese Army. At the end of March, Nepal's Prime Minister Sher Bahadur Deuba went to India for six days with a 100-member delegation. He asked India's top government and military officials for more help to defeat the Maoists. India responded by delivering 20 trucks full of weapons to Nepal--including new "off-the- assembly-line" armored "light troop carrying" vehicles designed for counter-insurgency missions, with state-of-the-art communications equipment. The India Army has also been training Nepali soldiers in jungle and guerrilla warfare at India's Counter Insurgency and Jungle Warfare School (CIJWS), regarded as one of the best jungle warfare establishments in the world (even U.S. military personnel have trained here.) According to an Indian official, India initially had plans to train an entire battalion of roughly 1,000 RNA troops at CIJWS. But so many RNA soldiers were being deployed in counter-insurgency operations that Nepal ended up only sending a core group of officers. In May, India's army chief General S. Padmanabhan went to Nepal to tour some of the Maoist-hit districts. He promised RNA generals even more military hardware and told them, "We can provide training assistance whenever required and anything the RNA requires. India will stand true with Nepal in every possible way. If there is a requirement of military assistance, we will be very glad to share what we have with Nepal." India's growing involvement in helping to fight the People's War underscores just how much Nepal relies on and is subservient to India--economically, politically and militarily. And the military relationship between Nepal and India is very much stamped with Indian domination. There are more Nepali Gurkhas in the Indian Army today (around 60,000) than in the RNA itself. And since the 1970s, the chiefs of the two armies are made honorary generals of each other's army--ensuring that India's army of over a million soldiers will dictate over Nepal's army of only 40,000 men. Until a few years ago, all RNA officer cadres used to be trained in India. Only recently Nepal's army set up its own military academy. But Nepal officers and other ranks still undergo training in various defense institutes of India. And in fact, Nepal army personnel constitute the largest number of foreign soldiers training in India. During the last year, India has given around $35 million to Nepal in military support and equipment for the Royal Nepal Army and the Armed Police Force. Rounding Up Nepalese Maoists in India India understands that the People's War in Nepal threatens the stability of the whole region, and the Indian ruling class is very concerned about the Maoist insurgency in Nepal "spilling over" the border. India also faces insurgencies being waged by Maoists. And there are fraternal relations between the CPN (Maoist) and Maoist parties in India. Increasingly concerned about what effect a successful Maoist revolution would have for the whole region, the Indian government has been stepping up its efforts to hunt down, arrest and extradite Nepalese Maoists in India. In April, police in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh (UP) handed over to the Nepalese government eight injured Nepalese Maoists who were undergoing treatment in private clinics in the capital city of Lucknow. UP police searched the houses of about 150 Nepalis suspected of providing shelter to Maoists fleeing intense army operations against them. In recent
Re: [CTRL] India plans war within two weeks
-Caveat Lector- Now if I was a nasty Ancient Egyptian kind of Indian Pharaoh, I would call upon the god Horus. He would then arrive wearing his falcon's mask, a merciless killer of the sky. So I would await Horus in the Queen's Chamber of the Great Pyramid, with it's volume (using wall height) of 4990 cubic feet. Now to be in that very chamber, is to be covered by four sets of Eagle's wings at 44 x 4 at 1760 and that of the Archangel, the Ka, at 3230, (the Niche in the Q.C. for the statue of the Archangel is 16.15 feet x 2 is 32.3), is 4990. OK, so to once a future time. Now from the start of the last India Pakistan war on November 22nd 1971 until say June noon 15th 2002 is the falcon at 61 x 61 x 3 days. So I am curious about this falcon date. And noon on June 15th 2002 and counting backwards to September 11th 2001 is 277.5 days or 6,660 hours. And to think I need noon time to make the Falcon work and also to make '666' work. And the Queen's Chamber or the number reference for the great Archangel with four sets of eagle's wings at 4990 x 4990 divided by 9 and 3 and then 24 hours, is 3,842.60802 days added to June 15th 2002 is December 22nd 2012 the end of the Maya calendar after 13 periods of 144,000 days. And the Fire from heaven has the reference 109, the seraphims, and 1.090e+14 x 2 and square root twice is 3,842.502 days and counting backwards from December 22nd 2012 is June 15th 2002. And from September 11th 2001 to December 22nd is 4,120 days. So I am curious if there will be a conflict starting on a day that number wise is all ready for it. But thankfully this is Alice in Wonderland stuff... and a guessing game only... JohnDM A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India plans war within two weeks
-Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/06/06/ wkash06.xmlsSheet=/portal/2002/06/06/ixport.html Thursday 6 June 2002 India plans war within two weeks By Rahul Bedi in New Delhi (Filed: 06/06/2002) India's military is seeking final authorisation to invade the Pakistani side of divided Kashmir in the middle of this month to destroy the camps of Islamic militants. An activist of the All-India Anti-terrorist Front brandishes his rifle as he denounces Pakistan The planned campaign would be similar to the American attack in Afghanistan, in which air strikes would be followed by ground assaults by special forces transported by helicopter, military sources said yesterday. Smart bombs and other advanced ordnance are reported to have been loaded on to French-made Mirage 2000H and Russian-built MiG-27 aircraft at bases in northern and western India. As Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, strengthened his warning to Britons to leave the region, military planners in Delhi expressed confidence that a war would not boil over into a nuclear exchange. A senior Indian official accused Britain, America and other western countries of adding their weight to Pakistan's nuclear blackmail by telling their citizens to leave. This is jumping the gun, he said. Our intention is not to have an all-out war. It would be a limited action. Most senior Indian officers expect that the conflict would last about a week before pressure from America and other powers forced a ceasefire. One officer said he believed there was only the slimmest chance of nuclear weapons being used. We will call Pakistan's nuclear bluff, he said. It [the nuclear factor] cannot deter us any more. The Indians want to move before the arrival of heavy monsoon rains at the beginning of July make military operations impossible. The tension was underlined by the Foreign Office's second warning to Britons to leave the region. Last week Mr Straw said they should consider leaving. Yesterday he said they should do so amid evidence that the first advice had been widely ignored. Officials say there are some 20,000 Britons in India, but unofficial estimates are much higher. As America issued equally robust advice to its 60,000 citizens, a senior Indian planning officer said that Washington and London knew that action was imminent. The US-led move out of Delhi indicates that Washington has been informed of India's intentions of hitting Pakistan and is taking them seriously, he said. Japan's foreign minister, Yoriko Kawaguchi, cancelled a trip to the region hours after speaking to Mr Straw. Tokyo refused to give a reason, saying only that there were various considerations. India's plan of attack is to seize and hold tracts of Pakistani Kashmir, providing the government with a much-needed military triumph and the military with improved defensive positions against Islamic militants. Officers indicated that the air force was poised to execute a strategy developed over several years to strike at 50 to 75 militant bases and a handful of other targets in Kashmir. The Indians would then send troops across the high mountain passes in helicopters. Planners expect major casualties as the helicopters cross four lines of Pakistani air defences equipped with advanced radar. Targets will include a bridge across the Karakoram highway connecting China to the region and at least three others linking Pakistani Kashmir to the rest of the country. Their destruction would prevent China from replenishing its ally Pakistan's weaponry. It would also cut off supply routes from Pakistan to front-line units. India's broad strategy is to execute air strikes that will induce Pakistan into extending the conflict by opening a wider front. President Bush telephoned both leaders to urge calm and the crisis dominated talks in London between Tony Blair and Donald Rumsfeld, the American defence secretary, who is on his way to India and Pakistan. The two countries have massed more than a million men on their border since the crisis began with an attack by militants on the Indian parliament in December. Relations worsened after another attack last month in which 22 wives and children of Indian army personnel were killed. In the latest diplomatic rebuff, Pakistan rejected an Indian offer to establish a joint border monitoring force to help halt incursions by Islamic militants into Indian-controlled Kashmir. India's military believes that it now has political backing for war. An officer said the beleaguered ruling coalition was fully aware that backing down at this juncture would mean political suicide. The Indian armed forces have been losing men for 13 years in fighting in Kashmir. By attacking soon, an officer said, they planned to set back Pakistan's military capability by at least 30 years, pushing it into the military dark ages. India has assured Washington that its forces would give the American bases at Jacobabad, Pasni and Dalbandin close to the Afghan border a wide berth.
[CTRL] India set to launch 'small war'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0531/p01s04-wosc.html World Asia: South Central from the May 31, 2002 edition India set to launch 'small war' US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld will go to Asia next week to try to ease tensions between India and Pakistan. By Scott Baldauf and V.K. Shashikumar NEW DELHI India and Pakistan are edging closer and closer to war. Pakistan confirmed yesterday that it is moving troops away from the Afghan border, where they have been helping the US hunt for Al Qaeda fighters, due to the looming military threat on its eastern flank. US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will head to the region next week to try to defuse tensions. Indian military sources say India has secretly told the US and Britain that it will wait two weeks to see if international diplomatic pressure halts infiltration of Islamic militants into Indian territory. This could be easily verified by monitoring [radio and telephone] intercepts, says Ret. Major Gen. Ashok Mehta, an Indian military analyst. If infiltration does not significantly drop, a senior Army official says India plans a 10-day assault in Kashmir. It will be like Kargil [the 1999 war between India and Pakistan], says Mr. Mehta. The military action will be predominantly infantry led and intensively supported by the Air Force. The short Indian military operation is designed to capture territory and destroy the infrastructure of Islamic militants quickly. The battle- field scenario, says a senior Indian military official, is premised on the calculation that it will operate under the nuclear threshold and that the international community will step in to prevent the conflict from escalating. Within the first 48 hours, India is expected to attack the Neelam Valley Road across the Kupwara sector in Indian-held Kashmir, says an Indian Air Force officer involved in the planning. The Indian Air Force will try to destroy an important bridge over the Jhelum River which connects Pakistan with Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. But Indian action will attract heavy Pakistani punishment, says General Mehta. In the Kargil conflict, the Indian government decided not to cross the 460-mileLine of Control that divides Indian-held Kashmir from Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. This policy was to ensure that the limited conflict did not escalate into a full-fledged conventional war. The two nations have fought three wars since gaining independence from Britain in 1947. Two of the wars were over Kashmir. In the last two weeks Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee has given bellicose speeches decrying Pakistani cross-border terrorism and calling on Indian soldiers to prepare for sacrifices in a decisive fight. Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has responded by donning his general's uniform, testing short- and long- range ballistic missiles this past week, and vowing that any Indian attack would be met with a swift response. While few expect India and Pakistan to use their nuclear weapons against each other, the possibility of a bloody conventional war between two key allies in the US war on terrorism is shaking the international community. Indeed, some analysts say India is stealing a page from Israel's game plan to initiate their own war on terrorists. Others see a classic brinksmanship strategy that India, in particular, is using to invite external pressure on its enemy. The Indians are practicing a policy of 'compellance,' says Stephen Cohen, a senior fellow in security issues at the Brookings Institution, reached at a conference in Tokyo. They are threatening to use force to compel another country to alter its behavior. In this case, their target is both Pakistan and the US, and they are compelling the US to put pressure on Musharraf to rein in cross-border terrorism. It may be working. Numerous diplomats have visited the region since January, including US Secretary of State Colin Powell and Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia Christina Rocca. This week, British Foreign Minister Jack Straw arrived with a proposal to beef up the 35-member UN monitoring force. According to Pakistan's UN ambassador Munir Akram, Mr. Straw said that a helicopter-borne force of 300 could effectively monitor [the Line of Control and verify] whether the Indian charges are right or not. Next week, Richard Armitage, a deputy Secretary of State, will also arrive in Islamabad to impress on Mr. Musharraf America's concerns in the region. The leverage of the Western powers is significant. The US could withdraw further economic support, thus sending Pakistan's rebounding economy back into a tailspin. In addition, the US could put Pakistan back on its watch list of terrorist countries, alongside North Korea, Iraq, and Iran. But this lever works both ways. The US depends on Pakistan to rein in Al Qaeda and Taliban operatives hiding in Pakistan; any loss of Pakistani support undermines the US war on terrorism. Meanwhile, in New Delhi, it's clear that Indian
[CTRL] India braced for anarchy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-221487,00.html February 28, 2002 India braced for anarchy after fatal train attack By Catherine Philp, South Asia Correspondent INDIA faces the prospect of more mob violence after Hindu hardliners vowed last night to build a temple on the disputed Ayodhya holy site. This was despite an attack in which Muslims set fire to a train carrying Hindu activists from the site, killing at least 55 people, including 14 children. Religious tension is rising against the background of the War on Terror and the conflict with Pakistan over Kashmir which has a Muslim majority. Across the state there were reports of sporadic unrest last night: two buses were attacked and burnt in Ahmedabad. Elsewhere one man was killed and two others injured in apparent revenge attacks. The Indian Prime Minister, Atal Behari Vajpayee, has appealed for calm and cancelled a visit to this weekends Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting in Australia. In the town of Godhra, where the train was set on fire, a youth of 17 was shot dead by police as they dispersed the mob. The streets were later deserted as police enforced a curfew. Thousands of Hindus had gathered in Ayodhya to plan the building of the temple on the ruins of the 16th-century Babri mosque. Its destruction by a Hindu mob ten years ago caused riots throughout India in which 3,000 died. The Sabarmati Express was taking Hindu militants home to Gujarat from a purification ceremony at the temple site when it was attacked. Police said that a mob gathered outside the station as the passengers shouted Hindu slogans. As the train left the station it was surrounded by about 2,000 people. They doused one carriage with petrol and set it alight, trapping dozens of passengers inside. ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] India behind abduction of US journalist Daniel Pearl
http://paknews.com/main.php?id=3date1=2002-01-30 India behind abduction of US journalist Daniel Pearl By Kamran Khan of The News Updated on 2002-01-30 11:13:46 KARACHI JAN 30 (PNS): Pakistani investigators of the Daniel Pearl kidnapping case have discovered that the man who had invited Pearl for a meeting at a downtown Karachi restaurant just before he went missing on Wednesday last made at least six phone calls to two different numbers in New Delhi before he abandoned his mobile phone on Saturday last, informed officials have confirmed here. The officials said Pakistani intelligence officials and the agents of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) are now making separate efforts to locate the individuals and addresses which were contacted in the Indian capital from Karachi at least 24 hours after Pearl's kidnapping around 7 pm from Village Garden restaurant near Karachi's Avari Towers hotel. Pakistani investigators have established that fake identity papers under the name of Amir Siddiqi were used to purchase a mobile phone connection from the Mobilink only a week before Pearl's kidnapping. Final calls for the Wednesday appointment with Pearl as well as all post-kidnapping calls to Delhi were made from the same mobile phone connection. Some Pakistani intelligence officials have long suspected that the agents from Indian intelligence service Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) have penetrated into various jihadi organisations and they were active in frustrating President General Musharraf's drive to turn Pakistan into a modern and moderate Islamic state. A senior Pakistani official, however, said, "it was premature to speculate about an Indian hand in kidnapping, but the government is using its full resources to locate the perpetrators of the crime." On Sunday, three days after the kidnapping, a previously unknown group called The National Movement for the Restoration of Pakistani Sovereignty sent an e-mail with attached pictures of Daniel Pearl to news organisations in Pakistan and abroad claiming responsibility for his kidnapping. The Organisation claimed that Pearl was a CIA official, a fact vehemently denied by the CIA and the Wall Street Journal, and demanded that all Pakistanis currently detained in the US and the American military base in Cuba be returned to Pakistan. It also echoed an often-repeated Pakistan government demand with the United States to deliver the F-16 fighter aircraft - which have already been paid for by the government of Pakistan. A demand for the release of former Afghanistan ambassador to Pakistan was also put forward by the group which used an address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Maybe to mislead the investigators and public opinion the demands have been drafted in a way as if they came from a motivated group within the government," observed a senior police investigator in Karachi. Before his kidnapping last week, Pearl, the South Asia correspondent of the Wall Street Journal, was investigating the alleged links between a little known radical Islamic group called Jamat Al-Fuqra headed by Sheikh Mubarak Jilani and Richard Reeves who had made an abortive bid to blow up an American airliner which was on way to Boston from Paris last month, Pearl's wife and colleagues informed Pakistani officials. According to these accounts Pearl was particularly interested in tracing the individuals behind the e-mails that had been sent to and from Richard Reeves before he embarked upon a failed suicide mission from Paris. The e-mail traffic to Reeves had originated from Karachi's internet service provider called Cyber net, but they all originated from various internet cafes in the city. To investigate the Reeves-Jilani story Pearl was very keen to meet Sheikh Jilani, whose Al-Fuqra was designated as terrorist organisation by the US State Department in 1995, but it was de-listed as a terrorist group in 1999. Al-Fuqra was involved in hate crimes and anti-Hindu violence in the United States. Its activities remained restricted to the United States. Police officials suspect that Pearl's search for Jilani took a dangerous turn, as his contacts that include two Rawalpindi journalists mistakenly introduced him to the activists of a known Jihadi group, twice designated as a terrorist organisation by the US State Department. A middle-aged Jihadi group activist identified as Bashir, which, according to the police investigators, was the fake identity of the man who had held an undercover meeting with Pearl at a Rawalpindi hotel room booked under a fake name two weeks ago, is now at the centre of police investigation into the kidnapping case. After this Rawalpindi meeting during which Bashir promised Pearl a meeting with Sheikh Jilani's principal contact in Karachi, he stayed in touch with Pearl through his mobile phone and an e-mail address identified as: nobadmashi (Urdu for no rascality)@yahoo.com. It was on Bashir's recommendation that Pearl set up an appointment with one Amir Siddiqi,
[CTRL] India tests intermediate-range missile
-Caveat Lector- from - http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_504005.html India tests intermediate-range missile India has successfully tested an advanced version of its nuclear-capable, intermediate range Agni missile. The most powerful weapon in its missile arsenal was launched from an island off the eastern coast, news reports said. The test came as hundreds of thousands of Indian and Pakistani soldiers, ballistic missiles, fighter jets and tanks face each other across the border in the biggest military stand-off in decades. The missile test had been planned for months, well before the border tension that followed a militant attack on India's Parliament on December 13. New Delhi blames that on Pakistan-based groups. Pakistan has denied involvement, but banned the groups afterwards. Agni-II soared into the sky over the Bay of Bengal from Wheeler's Island off the coast of Orissa state, Press Trust of India said, quoting unidentified sources. The testing site is located 50 miles from a coastal facility where the Defence Research and Development Organisation tests much of its modern weaponry. The earlier version of the Agni has a range of 1,500 miles. Agni means fire in Hindi, India's national language. The country's missile arsenal includes army and air force versions of the short-range ballistic missile Prithvi; the Trishul, a surface-to-air missile that targets aircraft and can counter sea-skimming missiles; and the anti-tank Nag missile. India, which conducted five nuclear tests in 1998, is currently perfecting its missile delivery system. Story filed: 05:27 Friday 25th January 2002 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India, Israel agree on terrorism threat
-Caveat Lector- http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1729673309 India, Israel agree on terrorism threat AP [ MONDAY, JANUARY 07, 2002 7:19:24 PM ] NEW DELHI: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres and Indian leaders on Monday exchanged views on the war against terrorism - a priority for both nations as they fight militant groups accused of deadly attacks on their soil. The world is not divided between East and West, Peres said after meeting with Home Minister L.K. Advani. The world has a new division now, the countries that harbour terrorism and the countries that fight terrorism. India is locked in a standoff with nuclear-armed rival Pakistan, accused by the government in New Delhi in a deadly terror attack last month on the Indian Parliament. Peres will also meet Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh during his three-day visit, which began on Monday. At a just-concluded summit of South Asian nations in Kathmandu, Nepal, Indian leaders said that Pakistan must end its alleged support of terrorist groups before New Delhi agreed to reviving a dialogue on resolving their differences. India said that Pakistani backing helped many of more than a dozen Islamic militant groups in Jammu and Kashmir. Similarly, Israel is facing a 15-month uprising by Palestinian and Lebanese groups. It also said that it would resume peace talks only if terrorist violence was stopped. A meeting of a joint commission to combat terrorism had just concluded in Tel Aviv, an Indian foreign ministry spokeswoman told journalists here. India finds it immensely beneficial to learn from Israel's experience in dealing with terrorism, since India, too, has long suffered from cross-border terrorism, said foreign ministry spokeswoman Nirupama Rao. Israel and India had set up the joint commission in July 2000, when foreign ministers of the two countries also agreed to meet twice a year to review the work of the commission and hold strategic discussions, Indian officials said. Although India was among the first countries to recognise Israel when it was formed in 1948, relations cooled when New Delhi supported the Palestinian cause. Diplomatic ties between the two countries were only established in 1992. India and Israel have moved closer since the BJP was elected to head the government in 1998. The last two years have seen a series of high-level visits by both sides. The Indian and Israeli defense forces have also increased their cooperation, with Israel emerging as a major arms supplier to India. Trade between the two countries, almost negligible before they established diplomatic relations in 1992, crossed the $1 billion mark in 2001. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India banking strike
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ---BeginMessage--- My Groups | ProletarianNews Main Page AFP. 4 January 2002. India banking hit as over 600,000 employees strike. BOMBAY -- India's banking system was thrown into disarray Friday as more than 600,000 employees of various state, foreign and private banks went on strike over the alleged 'anti-labour' policies of Britain's Standard and Chartered Bank (SCB). The one-day strike was called by the All India Bank Employees Association (AIBEA), which has accused SCB of violating the central Reserve Bank of India (RBI) norms governing the operation of foreign banks in India. Initial reports indicate the strike is a total success with almost 600,000 clerical employees not reporting to work in most of the key banks across the country, AIBEA's joint secretary Lalit K. Nagda said. There (are) no cash and clearing transactions happening anywhere, except at the State Bank of India, he said. Industry sources said the State Bank of India and the RBI's clearing houses were functioning as their employees are not part of the AIBEA. According to Nagda, the SCB had transferred 27 of its employees to different state branches after they refused to opt for a voluntary retirement scheme. It was also outsourcing all its banking transactions from a private contract agency, Scope International Pvt. Ltd., which is not right as per our banking norms, Nagda said We are talking with the Reserve Bank of India about this. Nagda said around 55 banks were supporting the strike, of which 25 are state-owned. From the initial reports it looks like even the various officers' associations, especially in Maharashtra are supporting the strike morally. So you can form your conclusion as to the effect of the strike, said a top Indian Bank Association (IBA) official. Bank officers normally carry out the clerical work in case of a strike by clerks. We have it on record that the officers' association have told their members not to carry out any clerical work today, the IBA official said. The actual impact of the strike will be evident only in the late afternoon depending on what happens at the central bank's clearing house, he added. SCB and RBI officials were unavailable for comment. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---End Message---
[CTRL] India says Kashmir rebels threaten to blow up Taj Mahal
-Caveat Lector- http://au.news.yahoo.com/020103/15/2abk.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India says Kashmir rebels threaten to blow up Taj Mahal Security around the 17th century marble monument had been tightened following an e-mail threat from the Lashkar-e-Taiba, a senior government official in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh where the Taj is located told Reuters. They have threatened to blow up the Taj Mahal, some other monuments and important government buildings in Lucknow, the official, who did not want to be identified, said. Lucknow is the capital of Uttar Pradesh. We have enhanced security in and around the Taj Mahal which was mentioned among Lashkar-e-Taiba's main targets in the e-mail sent to the chief minister, the official said. The Taj Mahal, India's monument to love in the northern city of Agra, is a huge draw for tourists from across the world. India has blamed the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad groups for the December 13 attack on its parliament in which 14 people, including five attackers, died. Both groups have denied involvement in the attacks. The official said Lashkar had also threatened to blow up a makeshift temple built at a disputed site in the ancient Indian town of Ayodhya where a 16th century mosque once stood. Hindu zealots tore down the Babri mosque in December 1992, triggering widespread religious riots in which some 3,000 people were killed. The site is sacred to both Hindus and Muslims. Security had already been tightened in and around the Ayodhya temple after a group of Hindu hardliners barged into the heavily-guarded complex in October. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India vows to use all military might
-Caveat Lector- http://in.news.yahoo.com/020102/107/1cj6v.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Thursday January 3, 1:04 AM India vows to use all military might By Penny MacRae and Robert Birsel ADVERTISEMENT NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Nuclear-armed India has said it is prepared to use its full military might to defend itself amid threats by Pakistan-based Islamic guerrilla groups to mount further attacks on the country. Nuclear rivals Pakistan and India have come to the brink of war following an assault last month on India's parliament which New Delhi blamed on Pakistan-based Kashmiri separatists. Whatever weapon is available, we will use it to defend ourselves, Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee said in his constituency of Lucknow in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh. And if because of that weapon the attacker is defeated...if he is killed, we should not be held responsible, said Vajpayee, who analysts say is under pressure to appear tough ahead of state elections in the politically crucial state of Uttar Pradesh. India carried out nuclear tests in 1998 which were followed by tit-for-tat blasts by Pakistan. It has adopted a no first use policy for its nuclear weapons, saying they would only be used in retaliation. But Pakistan, whose conventional forces are far inferior, has not adopted a similar policy. Following the parliament attack in which 14 people died, India demanded that Pakistan crack down on Muslim militants operating from its soil against India and said all options were open including war unless Islamabad acted. Earlier the country's Defence Minister George Fernandes told Reuters that Indian forces had completed their biggest-ever buildup but were not in battle positions. He held out hope that diplomacy could still avert a war with Pakistan. Efforts are being made to defuse the situation through diplomatic intervention, he said. URGING RESTRAINT All political parties in India are urging the government to use diplomacy as the first choice. But Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad, accused of the parliament attack, threatened fresh violence. Security was tightened at India's famed Taj Mahal monument after Indian officials they said they had received an e-mail from Lashkar-e-Taiba threatening to blow up the landmark to love. And Jaish-e-Mohammad said in a statement published in newspapers in the revolt-racked Kashmir region that they would carry out new attacks on Indian security forces. We are in possession of more deadly and sophisticated weapons and they will be fully used against the military and paramilitary forces of India in the coming days, the group said. Hours later a grenade exploded in Srinagar, Kashmir's main city, wounding 20 people including five policemen, police said. Elsewhere, in a space of 24 hours, 18 people were killed across strife-torn Kashmir, India's only Muslim-majority state. The border remained tense as Indian police said four Pakistani soldiers were killed when Indian and Pakistani troops fired mortars and heavy machineguns across the frontier. Pakistan has so far rounded up around 100 activists in response to India's demands to arrest militants, according to officials of the Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba. India has called the arrests a step in the right direction. But Jaish-e-Mohammad said it would seek to escape the net by shifting its offices into the Indian-controlled part of the Kashmir which covers two-thirds of the disputed region. Amid mounting international alarm about the spectre of war, U.S. President George W. Bush has weighed in with calls for restraint by both parties, telephoning Vajpayee and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf urging talks. British Prime Minister Tony Blair was due to arrive in the subcontinent later this week but his government played down talk he might act as a peace broker. NO BLAIR PEACE PLAN There is no Blair peace plan that the prime minister could or should take out of his pocket, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said in London. Independent political analyst Prem Shankar Jha said it could take just one more big guerrilla attack in India to prompt New Delhi to order its army into action. Several defence experts have said a conflict could end in the world's first nuclear exchange. An Indian official said Blair would meet Vajpayee on Sunday and travel to Pakistan on Monday for talks with Musharraf. Despite the crisis, both leaders plan to attend the Kathmandu summit of the seven-member South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation which begins on Friday. Plans for a meeting of the two men on the fringes of the summit have been scrapped since the crisis erupted. India's Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh and his Pakistani counterpart Abdul Sattar shook hands with smiling faces in Kathmandu at a pre-summit meeting, a conference spokesman said. But it was not clear whether this represented a
[CTRL] India flays Israeli attacks
-Caveat Lector- http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/01012002/0101200209.htm India flays Israeli attacks India, which had earlier condemned suicide attack on Israel that had left more than 25 Israelis dead, reacted sharply over the heightened and highly disproportionate Israeli retaliations against the Palestinian population. It said that the acts of violence cannot be justified on any grounds. Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh deplored the Israeli air strikes on Palestinian people and warned against any attempt to undermine the position of Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser Arafat. Responding to the Lok Sabha members concerns over the bombings over West Bank, Gaza city and around Arafats headquarters, the foreign minister assailed the air attacks terming them as an infringement on the sovereignty of a state. He told the Parliament that, there is no change in Indias position which has recognized the Palestinian Authority and its leader Yasser Arafat; nothing should be done to undermine Arafats authority. Expressing deep concerns over the recent escalation of violence in West Asia, Singh said, the need of the hour is to break the cycle of violence. He also lauded Yasser Arafats efforts to bring people responsible for certain terror attacks in Israeli territory to justice. The minister of state for foreign affairs Umar Abdullah, while addressing a function to mark the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People organized by the Indian Council for Cultural Relations, condemned the Israeli air raids. The Union minister said, We sincerely hope that nothing will be done to undermine President Arafat and the Palestinian National Authority as alternatives are fraught with dangers having serious implications for regional peace and security. He went on to say, We strongly condemn the attacks against the offices of President Arafat and other Palestinian institutions. There can be no justification for such acts. These statements came after concerns expressed by senior parliamentarians like GM Banatwala, Hannan Mollah and Priranjan Dasmunshi. These leaders had sought clarification on Indias West Asian policy. These leaders had lashed out at what they called double standards of the US in its fight against terrorism by supporting Israels attempts to crush the Palestinian liberation movement. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India seen as stronger against Pakistan
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25865 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India seen as stronger against Pakistan New Delhi victorious in previous conflicts with neighbor -- -- By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com As Pakistan and India position troops, missiles and aircraft along their 1,100-mile common border in what could become the fourth war between them, historians note that in the past Islamabad has typically come up short against a stronger Indian military. Though both nations now claim to be nuclear powers, there is some disagreement as to how capable either is of launching nuclear weapons against the other. Therefore, experts note, any conflict would likely be fought conventionally, and in that event, India holds distinct military advantages in terms of manpower, modern aircraft, land combat systems and naval assets. History of conflict The Indian subcontinent was partitioned shortly after World War II ended, in 1947, with its independence from Great Britain, forming the nations of India and Pakistan. But almost immediately, both nations plunged into war over mutual claims in the Jammu-Kashmir regions. Kashmir, about twice the size of Virginia and located in northwest India, has been the focus of two of the three conflicts, because absolute sovereignty over this particular region was unresolved after Britain left. The first conflict began in 1947, when Muslim subjects revolted and were supported by Pakistani troops. The conflict dragged on through much of 1948, as the Hindu ruler of the region appealed to India for assistance, agreeing to cede the area to India in return. New Delhi moved quickly to consolidate its position in Kashmir and was successful in pushing the mostly Pakistani volunteer forces back. Conflicts also arose in the Punjab and in Bengal, but the war ended after a United Nations-brokered truce was put into effect Jan. 1, 1949. Post-conflict negotiations between India and Pakistan began and lasted until 1954 without resolving the Kashmir problem. Pakistan controlled part of the area, Azad, while India held most of the territory overall. New Delhi annexed the area it controlled in 1957. Pakistani soldiers pose in front of a captured Indian tank during the 1965 war. The second conflict broke out in April 1965 as the U.S. was gearing up for its own prolonged Asian war against communist North Vietnam. This time, fighting broke out in the Rann of Kachchh, a sparsely inhabited region along the West Pakistan-India border. By August, it had spread to Kashmir and to the Punjab. In September, Pakistani and Indian troops crossed the partition line between the two countries and launched air assaults on each other's cities. By then, China was threatening to intervene on behalf of Pakistan, which would have internationalized the conflict. But pressure by a united Soviet Union and the U.S. government kept Beijing out of the fight and led to an eventual cease-fire in January 1966, brokered by Moscow. Pakistani troops claimed early victory, but Indian forces, in a three-pronged attack, were able to stabilize earlier losses. After the cease-fire, the armies of both countries withdrew to pre-August lines. In 1971 came Pakistan's biggest military defeat, and it came amid a crippling civil war. The West Pakistan army was pitted against the forces of East Pakistan, which in turn forced some 10 million East Pakistan Bengalis to flee to India. When Pakistan attacked Indian airfields in Kashmir, India attacked both East and West Pakistan. India managed to occupy the eastern half, which declared its independence on Dec. 6, 1971. After Pakistan's defeat, a U.N.- and major power-brokered cease-fire took effect in mid-December. Pakistan lost its eastern half, an army of 100,000 soldiers and was thrown into political turmoil. A million people had died. Tensions were alleviated by the Shimla accord of 1972 and by Pakistan's recognition of Bangladesh in 1974. However, as the current situation bears out, tensions have periodically recurred. In the 1990s, serial clashes between Indian army troops and Muslim separatists in Kashmir worsened relations between Islamabad and New Delhi, as India blamed Pakistan for aiding the Muslims. The series of battles killed an estimated 30,000 people by 1996. In May 1999, India launched a series of air strikes against armed Muslim insurgents that New Delhi said had infiltrated India's portion of Kashmir. Pakistan responded, and later in the month claimed to have shot down two Indian Air Force fighters. Fighting continued until fall of 1999. How the forces match up In terms of manpower, technology, versatility and overall capability, the Indian armed forces hold distinct advantages over Pakistan. With its 1.2 million man active duty army and a population of over 1 billion, clearly the
[CTRL] India, Pakistan Exchange Shelling
-Caveat Lector- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011228/ts/india_pakistan_57.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India, Pakistan Exchange Shelling By LAURINDA KEYS, Associated Press Writer NEW DELHI, India (AP) - Indian and Pakistani troops shelled each other in disputed Kashmir (news - web sites) overnight, and the Indian army ordered the evacuation Friday of dozens of border villages, raising fears of war. As the shelling ended two days of relative calm, Pakistan warned that India's build-up of troops at the border could make a confrontation between the two nuclear-armed nations inevitable. ``The Indian government is putting itself into a corner where it would be difficult for them to now back off,'' said Gen. Rashid Quereshi, spokesman for Pakistan's military-led government. ``Any deployment in excess of what is required ... will be seen as a threat by the other country.'' The two neighbors on Thursday exchanged diplomatic and economic sanctions seen as the toughest since they last fought a war in 1971. Tensions have surged since a Dec. 13 suicide attack on India's parliament that left nine Indians and five attackers dead. India accuses Pakistan of supporting the attackers, a charge Pakistan denies. The Bush administration urged the leaders of the two countries to come to an understanding at a South Asia summit in Nepal on Jan. 4-6.. ``They need to resolve their differences through dialogue,'' State Department spokesman Philip Reeker said. Among the sanctions each country imposed was a ban on overflights by the other's planes. India's Foreign Ministry said Friday the government would make an exception to its ban to allow Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to fly through its airspace to attend the Nepal summit. Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee is also to attend the summit, but India has not said if the two leaders will meet. The armies fired mortars at each other for five hours Thursday night in the Poonch sector along the cease-fire line that divides Kashmir between India and Pakistan, an Indian army official said on condition of anonymity. He said there was also intermittent small arms fire across the border, but that the exchanges died down Friday morning. There was no immediate comment from Pakistan. Villagers in Indian-ruled Kashmir fled their homes with cots, clothes and fears that India and Pakistan will go to war for the fourth time since they became independent from Britain and were separated in 1947. ``The war is about to break out,'' said Sumitra Devi, an elderly woman sheltering with her sons and grandsons at a dilapidated school at Koota in Jammu-Kashmir state. Devi's house was demolished in the 1971 war with Pakistan, and she said she was already packed Thursday when soldiers came to her village, Mangoo Chak, and told people to evacuate. The Indian army told some 5,000 people in 17 villages in Kashmir to leave their homes within 36 hours, officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Friday. The army had already warned about 10,000 people in 24 villages near the Pakistani border to move. Tens of thousands of soldiers, squadrons of fighter jets, artillery and ballistic missiles face each other along the 1,100-mile border that reaches from the Himalayas in the north to the Arabian Sea in the south. Both sides say they don't want war, but each says it is ready. ``There is no measuring scale that we have to say how near or how far we are to war,'' Indian Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh said Thursday night. ``I will just say this: Don't worry. We are ready.'' In Pakistan, Foreign Ministry spokesman Aziz Ahmed Khan said Friday he hoped ``better sense'' will prevail. In the mutual sanctions announced Thursday, India and Pakistan each ordered half the other's embassy staffs sent home, as well as the overflight ban. Since Indian planes already avoided Pakistani airspace, the flight ban - due to come into effect Tuesday - hurts Pakistan more. Pakistan International Airlines said Friday it would cancel 12 flights a week to India and reroute 13 others to Asian destinations because they use Indian airspace. No details on the economic cost were available. The Group of Eight leading industrial nations Friday called on India and Pakistan to resume dialogue, Russia's Foreign Ministry said. The statement, initiated by Russia, a traditional friend of India, also called on Pakistan to act against militants. The G-8 also includes the United States, Italy, France, Britain, Germany, Canada and Japan. Like two of the three wars the neighbors have fought, the current tensions have their roots in Kashmir, a mostly Muslim province divided between Hindu-majority India and Muslim Pakistan but claimed by both. India accuses Pakistan of fomenting violence in its part of Kashmir, where Islamic guerrillas have waged a separatist war that has killed tens of thousands of people since 1989. Pakistan denies the charge
Re: [CTRL] India, Pakistan Exchange Shelling
-Caveat Lector- now this really scares me these idiots will use nukes on each other pity I spent time in Kashmir, lived on a houseboat for a few weeks great people (though some of the most hard core bargainers I've ever met) beautiful, easygoing mountain sides and lakes and golden eagles fishing from the water as I sipped my tea. alas - that Kashmir is far away now. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you. Samuel Adams NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:06:19 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] India, Pakistan Exchange Shelling -Caveat Lector- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011228/ts/india_pakistan_57.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India, Pakistan Exchange Shelling By LAURINDA KEYS, Associated Press Writer NEW DELHI, India (AP) - Indian and Pakistani troops shelled each other in disputed Kashmir (news - web sites) overnight, and the Indian army ordered the evacuation Friday of dozens of border villages, raising fears of war. As the shelling ended two days of relative calm, Pakistan warned that India's build-up of troops at the border could make a confrontation between the two nuclear-armed nations inevitable. ``The Indian government is putting itself into a corner where it would be difficult for them to now back off,'' said Gen. Rashid Quereshi, spokesman for Pakistan's military-led government. ``Any deployment in excess of what is required ... will be seen as a threat by the other country.'' The two neighbors on Thursday exchanged diplomatic and economic sanctions seen as the toughest since they last fought a war in 1971. Tensions have surged since a Dec. 13 suicide attack on India's parliament that left nine Indians and five attackers dead. India accuses Pakistan of supporting the attackers, a charge Pakistan denies. The Bush administration urged the leaders of the two countries to come to an understanding at a South Asia summit in Nepal on Jan. 4-6.. ``They need to resolve their differences through dialogue,'' State Department spokesman Philip Reeker said. Among the sanctions each country imposed was a ban on overflights by the other's planes. India's Foreign Ministry said Friday the government would make an exception to its ban to allow Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to fly through its airspace to attend the Nepal summit. Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee is also to attend the summit, but India has not said if the two leaders will meet. The armies fired mortars at each other for five hours Thursday night in the Poonch sector along the cease-fire line that divides Kashmir between India and Pakistan, an Indian army official said on condition of anonymity. He said there was also intermittent small arms fire across the border, but that the exchanges died down Friday morning. There was no immediate comment from Pakistan. Villagers in Indian-ruled Kashmir fled their homes with cots, clothes and fears that India and Pakistan will go to war for the fourth time since they became independent from Britain and were separated in 1947. ``The war is about to break out,'' said Sumitra Devi, an elderly woman sheltering with her sons and grandsons at a dilapidated school at Koota in Jammu-Kashmir state. Devi's house was demolished in the 1971 war with Pakistan, and she said she was already packed Thursday when soldiers came to her village, Mangoo Chak, and told people to evacuate. The Indian army told some 5,000 people in 17 villages in Kashmir to leave their homes within 36 hours, officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Friday. The army had already warned about 10,000 people in 24 villages near the Pakistani border to move. Tens of thousands of soldiers, squadrons of fighter jets, artillery and ballistic missiles face each other along the 1,100-mile border that reaches from the Himalayas in the north to the Arabian Sea in the south. Both sides say they don't want war, but each says it is ready. ``There is no measuring scale that we have to say how near or how far we are to war,'' Indian Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh said Thursday night. ``I will just say this: Don't worry. We are ready.'' In Pakistan, Foreign Ministry spokesman Aziz Ahmed Khan said Friday he hoped ``better sense'' will prevail. In the mutual sanctions announced Thursday, India and Pakistan each ordered half the other's embassy staffs sent home, as well as the overflight ban. Since
[CTRL] India considers economic action against Pakistan
-Caveat Lector- from - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_481915.html India considers economic action against Pakistan India's government is considering economic action against Pakistan, including a ban on airline services. It says Islamabad has not done enough to halt terrorist attacks by Islamic militant groups. The Cabinet Committee on Security is meeting to consider halting Pakistan International Airlines flights to or over India. It is also considering cancelling the most favoured nation trade status it gives Pakistan and further reducing the level and staffing of India's embassy in Islamabad. Although troops and weapons are still pushing toward the borders, Indian leaders have cut back on war talk and are pressing for a diplomatic offensive. It is aimed at getting Pakistan to shut down training camps, halt recruitment and block infiltration of Islamic militants into the Indian portion of Kashmir. Indian foreign ministry spokeswoman Nirupama Rao said: We have to drive a stake through the heart of terrorism. They haven't done that yet. Border villagers in Jammu-Kashmir and Punjab provinces are continuing to pack furniture into tractor-trailers and trucks, moving their belongings away from the frontier. Story filed: 09:08 Thursday 27th December 2001 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India, Pakistan Move Missile Batteries Closer to Shared Border
-Caveat Lector- http://www.truthout.com/12.26A.India.Pak.Shoot.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India, Pakistan Move Missile Batteries Closer to Shared Border By Neelesh Misra Associated Press Writer Tuesday, December 25, 2001; 2:44 PM NEW DELHI, India -- India moved ballistic missiles and troops to its tense border with Pakistan on Tuesday, ordering thousands of villagers to evacuate the disputed Kashmir region. The leaders of both South Asian nuclear rivals said they do not seek war but are prepared for it. The troop and military hardware movements were the latest sign of soaring tensions since a Dec. 13 suicide attack on Parliament that India blames on Pakistan-based militants. India says Pakistan's spy agency sponsored the attack with the help of two Islamic militant groups - the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and Jaish-e-Mohammed - which are battling to end Indian rule in Kashmir. India moved air force jets closer to the border Tuesday and smashed a dozen Pakistani bunkers. We do not want war, but war is being thrust on us and we will have to face it, Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee said at a public address at his residence. That sentiment was echoed by Pakistan's military leader, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who assured his country that the armed forces are fully prepared and capable of defeating all challenges. Musharraf did say, however, that relations could improve if India sheds its superiority complex and deals with Pakistan on an equal footing. Musharraf also used a speech marking the 125th birthday of the nation's founder to criticize Muslim extremists for tarnishing Islam's image by promoting hatred. In another move that could help ease tensions, his government on Tuesday briefly detained the founder of Jaish-e-Mohammad. A major shift appeared to be under way regarding the groups, which had previously been allowed to openly raise money and recruit volunteers in Pakistan. On Monday, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba said it had closed its Islamabad office and would operate only in Kashmir. With the group's shutdown on Tuesday, major Islamic guerrilla groups now apparently have no official presence in Pakistan. Jaish-e-Mohammed and a third group, Harkat-ul Mujahedeen, closed their Pakistan offices shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes in America. Under orders from Pakistani security agencies, the groups have pledged to remove their billboards, banners and flags from major cities and agreed to stop soliciting donations. India and Muslim Pakistan have fought two wars in half a century over Kashmir, a mostly Muslim region that is divided between them but claimed by both. Both countries tested nuclear weapons in 1998. While Indian officials have hinted repeatedly at a possible military response to the Parliament attack, which killed 14 people including the five attackers, they have emphasized that war with Pakistan would be a last resort if diplomatic efforts to achieve their goals fail. Nonetheless, signs of the dispute between India and Pakistan were everywhere, and India's ambassador to Pakistan, Vijay Nambiar, warned the conflict was becoming difficult to control. The situation is getting more and more difficult to contain. There is a very strong sense of mistrust, Nambiar said upon his return to New Delhi. He was recalled from Pakistan last week. In order to smooth troop and weapons transportation in the area of the border, Indian railroad authorities suspended about a dozen passenger train routes linking air bases and other military facilities. As some 2,000 Indian villagers along the Kashmir border moved out, Indian and Pakistani army troops continued to shell each other's positions and trade small arms fire. One Indian soldier was killed, a civilian truck damaged and its driver wounded, an army official said on condition of anonymity. Television showed Indian men and women hiding behind walls, screaming and ducking as bullets apparently soared over their heads. Border skirmishes are common between India and Pakistan along the frontier in Kashmir, but clashes have become more frequent since the suicide attack. The two countries share borders across four Indian states, including Kashmir. Indian gunners targeted Pakistani army positions and hit some 12 bunkers, said army spokesman Lt. Col. H.S. Oberoi. In New Delhi, the Hindustan Times newspaper reported that India had moved short-range missiles to the northern Punjab state, along the Pakistani border. Oberoi said Pakistani units were seen moving medium-range missile batteries to the border in Kashmir. An Indian Air Force official told The Associated Press that air force jets and weapons had been moved toward the border, after military authorities received concrete intelligence that Pakistan was moving its forces there. Thousands of soldiers are said to be massing near the border on both sides. Some in India are asking the government to end trade with Pakistan, prohibit its
[CTRL] India Government Considering War
-Caveat Lector- http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41148,00.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India Government Considering War AP Indian Prime Minsiter Atal Bihari Vajpayee Wednesday, December 19, 2001 Respond to Editor Email this Article NEW DELHI, India â India is considering declaring war on Pakistan in response to last week's attack on its Parliament, the country's prime minister said Wednesday. Atal Bihari Vajpayee is also considering diplomacy as means of dealing with its rival neighbor, whose militants he blames for the suicide raid. Vajpayee told India's Parliament that Pakistani officials know there are forces within Pakistan that are taking part in terrorism in India. He repeated India's demand that it crack down on them. We are trying to address this diplomatically, but other options are also open, too, Vajpayee said during a debate over Thursday's assault on the legislative compound that left 13 people dead, including the attackers. India says all five attackers were Pakistanis and that the neighboring country's intelligence service sponsored the attack. Pakistan has denied the charge. Home Minister Lal K. Advani said India's government was consulting with the army and political parties to determine how to respond. A well thought-out action does not mean it will not be tough, Advani said. This is not a fight between Hindus and Muslims. It is a fight between a civilized world and noncivilized, barbaric people. If such attacks continue there cannot be peace between India and Pakistan, he added, as Parliament adjourned until next year. Both nuclear-armed nations' armies are reported to be on alert. Meanwhile, the Indian army said it engaged in heavy firing on Pakistani border outposts and bunkers Wednesday and both sides were exchanging gunfire on the Jammu-Kashmir frontier. An Indian army spokesman said soldiers had fired across the border on Tuesday night to retaliate against Pakistani firing, which was allegedly aimed at covering for Islamic militant infiltrators. Pakistan says it supports the cause of the militants â to separate Kashmir from India â but denies it gives them material aid. Border firing is common, with each side accusing the other of starting it. Since their division into separate nations after British independence in 1947, Islamic Pakistan and Hindu-majority India have fought three wars, two of them over their competing claims to the Himalayan region of mostly Muslim Kashmir. In response to a U.S. call for restraint from both sides as Washington seeks their help in the global war on terrorism, Vajpayee said, We have reached the pinnacle of restraint.'' When President Bush telephoned to express condolences after the Parliament attack, Vajpayee said, I told him that the terrorists were linked to Pakistan, were under the control of Pakistan and working at the behest of Pakistan. AP White House press secretary Ari Fleischer On Tuesday, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said India had a legitimate right to self-defense, but that the attack on its legislature is not a reason for India or Pakistan to take action against each other. India has demanded that Pakistan halt all activities by two Islamic militant groups, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, arrest their leaders and freeze their assets. New Delhi said the two groups, with the support of Pakistan's intelligence service, planned and carried out the assault on Parliament. The question is not whether there should be a war or not, Vajpayee said. The question to be debated is in what circumstances there could be a war. Pakistan has accused India of blaming it for the suicide assault as a way of avoiding talks over the disputed Kashmir region which has bedeviled relations between the South Asian neighbors for five decades. Pakistani officials have said they would participate in an impartial investigation, but would take no action without proof. Vajpayee called the demand for a joint investigation ridiculous. What proof do we need? Vajpayee said. The bullet marks on the Parliament walls, the bodies of the terrorists, who were Pakistani nationals, this is the proof by itself. Vajpayee has said all parties would be consulted about what action to take in response to the attack. When we have to decide about war or peace, we have to be patient, he said. We have to have all options and their pros and cons weighed before coming to any conclusion. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A
[CTRL] India suspects Osama infiltration in Punjab
-Caveat Lector- http://www.indiareacts.com/nati2.asp?recno=422ctg= WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India suspects Osama infiltration in Punjab 5 December 2001: Indian intelligence services have launched a massive manhunt for two infiltrators from Pakistan who cut through the electrified border fence in Abohar in Punjab suspecting one of them to be Osama Bin Laden, top officials disclosed. The electrified fence was cut through on the night of 26 November but astonishingly rejoined. This has led authorities to believe that the infiltration was not meant to be detected, provoking a manhunt for Bin Laden. The electrified Cobra wires were cut between pillar numbers 421/1 and 421/2 falling between two Border Security Force (BSF) checkposts called Mansarovar and Sisada in Khajoowala on the international border with Pakistan. Pakistan has a checkpost called Chinarwali Chowki a short distance away manned by the Pakistan army. The rejoined wires were discovered during an Indian Army checking on the morning of 27 November. The BSF commander of the area, Umed Singh, a havildar, and three constables have been suspended. Investigators discovered two sets of footprints leading from the rejoined border fence to a nearby arterial road. âWe are certain that the Pakistan army assisted in the infiltration,â said an official close to the investigation. âWe would not have been so particular if the fencing had not been rejoined. When you are infiltrating in the night, you want to get over the job soon. If you are discovered, you are dead. You donât have time to cover your tracks.â âBut obviously, this infiltration was very different, and very special. We want to know why.â Security forces have begun combing the nearby villages. American bombers have been bombing the tunnels and caves in Tora Bora in the mountains south of Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan suspecting Bin Laden to be hidden in them but others say that he could have escaped into Pakistan through the frontier town of Parachinar in Pakistan. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India to Allow U.S. Use of Military Facilities (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Assalamu'alaikum India to Allow U.S. Use of Military Facilities http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20010914_144.html By Y.P. Rajesh NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India will allow U.S. military forces to use its facilities if it needs them in any operations launched in retaliation for the terror attacks in New York and Washington, an Indian defense ministry source said on Friday. It was discussed...at the Cabinet Committee on Security yesterday (Thursday) before it was agreed, the source said. Of course, it depends on whether the U.S. wants to use our facilities, the source told Reuters. Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden, sheltered by nearby Afghanistan's ruling Taliban movement, is a prime suspect in Tuesday's attacks which killed thousands. Earlier, the Times of India newspaper quoted Defense and Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh as saying New Delhi would provide logistical help, or act as a staging ground, for any U.S. military operation. There have been contacts at all political, executive and operational levels about this, Singh said. He declined to give details saying it was a very sensitive matter. Washington and New Delhi, on opposite sides during the Cold War, do not share a formal military relationship but ties between the two countries have improved considerably over the last year. Defense analysts said India had to support Washington because it also had been a victim of terrorist attacks. We have a moral, political and constitutional obligation to help fight terrorism, Jasjit Singh, a retired air commodore who heads the New Delhi-based Institute of Defense Studies and Analyses, told Reuters. India is struggling to quell a 12-year-old bloody rebellion in the Himalayan Kashmir region and is also battling violent rebels in the remote northeastern region for the past 50 years. India frequently accuses Afghan mercenaries of fighting alongside Kashmiri Muslim separatist guerrillas and allege they receive support from bitter foe Pakistan. Over 30,000 people have been killed in the mountainous state in violence. The country's capital New Delhi and provincial capitals have long been a favorite target of rebels attacks. ACCESS TO AIR BASES The Indian defense source said he expected Washington to ask New Delhi for use of air bases for refueling of transport aircraft and launch of air strikes by fighter jets. Pakistan and India are the only two countries that are close to Afghanistan for use by American forces, the source said. The entire geo-political matrix of the region has changed after the attacks this week. Pakistan, India's nuclear rival and one of only three countries to recognize the Taliban government, has pledged full cooperation with the United States in fighting terrorism. During the Gulf War, India allowed U.S. transport aircraft to refuel in Bombay. That decision to help Washington sparked off a domestic political storm in India. Analyst Jasjit Singh, said much had changed between now and the Gulf War. That was during the Cold War era and the U.S. had attacked another country...with whom we had good relations, Singh told Reuters. But that does not mean we condoned Iraq's aggression. Singh said India had allowed U.S. air force aircraft to refuel at not just in Bombay, as widely believed, but at several other airports and air bases in the country. We could not make it public then because we had 250,000 Indians living in Kuwait and efforts were on to evacuate them, Singh said. This time it is not a war against a country but against terrorists and terrorism. He said the move may be exploited by Muslim groups as an attack against Islam and increase threats to India. But I would hope other countries will...help us out in different ways. ININ List Archives Found Here: http://www.egroups.com/messages/inin TO SUBSCRIBE: To subscribe please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body type: subscribe inin-net TO UNSUBSCRIBE: To unsubscribe please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body type in: unsubscribe inin-net ISLAMIC NEWS AND INFORMATION NETWORK: HTTP://WWW.ININ.NET VISIT: HTTP://WWW.MEDIAMONITORS.NET WE AFFIRM THAT INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE DEFINING APARTHEID Article 2 of the International Convention of the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid of 1973 clearly defined the term crime of apartheid. This includes similar policies and practices of segregation and discrimination as practiced in South Africa and which also apply to inhuman acts committed for the purpose of the
[CTRL] India is fast emerging as a major production center for cyberporn
-Caveat Lector- Wrong end of the stick Ravi Visvesvaraya Prasad http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/280501/platefrm.asp India is fast emerging as a major production centre for cyberpornography. Today there are over 18,000 pornographic websites featuring Indians, up from only 4,000 at the beginning of 2001. At least 25 Indian sites feature in the top 500 list of most-visited pornographic websites internationally. All of them provide hardcore pornographic films starring Indians to their subscribers, and offer free two-minute samples to entice visitors. The popularity among Indian websurfers of a particular series is due to their providing hundreds of static images free of charge to lure subscribers to their paid movie sections. In the public interest litigation currently pending before the Delhi High Court, two advocates want all cybercafs and educational institutions to install filtering software on their computers to prevent exposure to inappropriate material that is sexual, hateful, or violent in nature, or encourage activities that are dangerous or illegal. A similar demand was raised in the Child Online Protection Act passed by US Congress in 1998. The American Civil Liberties Union, American Library Association, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Internet Free Expression Alliance, and the student-run organisation PeaceFire challenged COPAs constitutional validity. After the US district court in Philadelphia directed the US Department of Justice not to enforce COPA pending a final ruling, the latter approached the US Supreme Court to resolve the impasse. All the filtering nanny packages commercially available today have severe deficiencies. These compute the percentage of skin colours in a picture, and even the best ones have a success rate of less than 20 percent. No filtering package has yet been developed which can distinguish between pictures of nude people on a porn site and those in a Reubens painting. The American Library Association argued before the Philadelphia court: Given the inherent limitations of available filtering technology, it is practically impossible to comply. Electronic Frontier Foundation added: No filtering product on the market today has anywhere near even a 20 per cent effectiveness rate, which will result in a completely false sense of security. Even blocking textual material based on specified keywords has a success rate of less than 85 per cent. Many pornographic websites also detect the presence of these nanny packages and have developed techniques to bypass them. Most of the pornographic websites created in India are hosted on servers abroad both due to the high bandwidth requirements for transmission of movies and images, as well as the need for secure electronic commerce and credit card transactions. Chennai is the major production centre, followed by Kochi, Ernakulam, Thiruvananthapuram, Coimbatore, Visakhapatnam and Vijayawada. Surprisingly, our moral busybodies have not attempted any action against these websites even though they are committing a criminal offence under Section 67 of the Information Technology Act, 2000, which states: Whoever publishes or transmits or causes to be published in the electronic form, any material which is lascivious or appeals to the prurient interest or if its effect is such as to tend to deprave and corrupt persons who are likely, having regard to all relevant circumstances, to read, see or hear the matter contained or embodied in it, shall be punished on first conviction with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to five years and with fine which may extend to one lakh rupees and in the event of a second or subsequent conviction with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to 10 years and also with fine which may extend to Rs 2 lakh. Hosting these websites on servers located outside India appears to be no defence since under Section 1(2), the IT Act extends to the whole of India and, save as otherwise provided in this Act, it applies also to any offense or contravention thereunder committed outside India by any person. Further, Section 75 states: (1) Subject to the provisions of sub-section (2), the provisions of this Act shall apply also to any offense or contravention committed outside India by any person irrespective of his nationality. (2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), this Act shall apply to an offence or contravention committed outside India by any person if the act or conduct constituting the offense or contravention involves a computer, computer system or computer network located in India. Moreover, in view of Sections 81 and 61 of the Act, it appears that the creators of these websites are criminally liable under Indian law irrespective of the countries they are residents of and irrespective of where the servers are located. However, it is doubtful whether such provisions could be enforced in practice under international law and the accused extradited to
[CTRL] India, Israel explore nuke pact
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India, Israel explore nuke pact Plan for military alliance under consideration in Jerusalem -- -- © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com India and Israel are secretly engaged in negotiations for a military nuclear pact, according to DEBKA.com, the international intelligence site. DEBKA's military and intelligence sources say Adm. Sushil Kumar, chief commander of the Indian navy, on a semi-secret five-day visit to Israel in the first week of May, was designated to put the proposal before Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in the name of Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee. The admiral met Sharon three times, according to DEBKA's sources. Israeli defense czars turned up in full force for the second, including Defense Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer, Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Shaul Mofaz, Deputy Chief of Staff Maj. Gen. Moshe Yaalon, military intelligence chief Maj. Gen. Amos Malka, Navy commander Maj. Gen. Yedidya Yaari, Air Force commander Maj. Gen. Dan Halutz and Mossad Director Efraim Halevy. India's proposal, a milestone in the 11-year old security and intelligence collaboration between the two countries, is being examined extremely seriously in Jerusalem, reports DEBKA. Its timing gives it extra weight, coinciding with the largest military exercise India has ever staged and the eve of a revolutionary overhaul of its armed forces and intelligence services, the report says. India's military, nuclear, chemical and biological warfare exercise, dubbed Complete Victory was clearly designed as a model for an Indian victory over Pakistan should a nuclear war erupt. More than 50,000 Indian troops and about 120 combat aircraft practiced deep-strike missions and the performance of army commandos and paratroops in operations for the seizure of enemy assets. It ended in a firepower demonstration in the North Indian nuclear test range at Pokhran, India's underground nuclear testing site near the Pakistani border. India's nuclear collaboration plan hinges on the three Israeli 1,925-ton 800-class German-made Dolphin-class submarines, which are armed with Israel-designed 1,500-km range Popeye Turbo cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. This flotilla is sought as a second strike capability for the Indian air force and naval units present in the Arabian Sea opposite Pakistan. Israel maintains one or sometimes two of those submarines permanently in Persian Gulf waters as a sea-launched deterrent force -- its second-tier, first-strike capability against Iran and Iraq; the second vessel alternates between the Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean as a deterrent element facing Syria and Western Iraq, while the third stands by at home base in case the other two summon aid. India is after a strategic accord patterned on the Israeli-Turkish pact, which furnishes Turkey with an Israeli protective nuclear umbrella against Iraqi and Iranian nuclear, chemical and biological warfare threats. From Turkey, Israel fighter-bomber squadrons receive a permanent base in Turkish air force installations in case Israel finds itself at war with Iraq, Syria or Iran. Israeli aircrews train in Turkish bases, and its warships and submarines receive port facilities at Turkish naval bases. India is likewise offering Israeli subs the use of its naval bases. The government in Delhi is particularly keen to purchase two of the advanced systems Israel fitted on its Dolphin-class subs and help in installing them in Indian subs. One is the top-secret Popeye Turbo nuclear cruise missile and the other, a sophisticated electronic system. The Indians are also bidding for two additional members of the Popeye family of missiles, developed for air-to-ground and sea-to-shore assaults, especially against tanks. DEBKA-Net-Weekly's military sources reveal here that Israel used the latter version for the first time against Palestinian intelligence command bases in the Gaza Strip. The new form of collaboration plus acquisitions, if they materialize, will upgrade the Indian navy to the most powerful sea-going power in the Indian Ocean-Arabian Sea region. They will cost the Delhi government, according to DEBKA, roughly $3 billion, more than threefold the present total of India's annual purchases from Israel. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL
[CTRL] India preparing to test 1st ICBM
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India preparing to test 1st ICBM New missiles will have eventual range of over 12,000 miles -- -- By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com India is preparing to test a new class of intercontinental ballistic missiles, beginning in January 2002, with one missile said to have a maximum range of over 12,000 miles. Indian media reports said the first ICBM, the Surya (Agni IV), with a range of 5,000 kilometers (3,100 miles) will begin flight testing in January, followed by a longer-range version, the Surya II, to begin testing in 2003. The Surya II, reports said, will have a range of 12,000 kilometers (7,500 miles), according to officials at India's Defense Research and Development Organization, New Delhi's version of the U.S. Ballistic Missile Defense Organization. Test-firing of an early model Agni I ballistic missile. Eventually, scientists said, the Surya II's range will be extended to 20,000 kilometers, or more than 12,400 miles, putting every country on Earth within range of Indian missiles, which are expected to be fitted with nuclear warheads. Technicians said the Surya missiles are based on a combination of liquid- and solid-fueled rocket technology. All are variants of India's Agni series of ballistic missiles, the longest of which has a range of over 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles). DRDO officials said the Surya's test would consist of a single-stage liquid-fueled rocket based on cryogenic engine technology, which has already been perfected by the U.S., Russia, France, China and Japan. A Federation of American Scientists analysis said India first tested cryogenic technology in December 1999 as part of New Delhi's effort to develop rockets capable of putting Indian satellites into orbit. The powerful cryogenic engine can carry communication satellites of up to 2,500 kilograms (about 2.5 tons) into space. So far, India launches its bigger satellites from France because India's capabilities are limited to sending smaller satellites into a lower orbit, the FAS document said. Russia has cut a deal to supply India with seven cryogenic engines from 1998 to 2002. The first engine was received in December 1998 for a satellite booster; one of the next engines will be for a Surya test rocket, DRDO officials said. India began its ICBM project in 1994 using cryogenic technology developed at the Liquid Propulsion Systems Center Laboratories in Thiruvananthapuram, India, and guidance technology from that facility's existing geostationary launch vehicle program. Indian Agni I and II models have already completed testing and have been ordered into serial production. India and rival neighbor Pakistan both became declared nuclear powers after testing devices in 1998. Pakistan is also active in the development of its own indigenous ballistic-missile program, and Pakistani officials have said they were set to arm Pakistan's submarines with nuclear-capable ballistic missiles. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India Fires at Pakistani Planes
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India Fires at Pakistani Planes By Binoo Joshi Associated Press Writer Monday, Feb. 19, 2001; 12:27 p.m. EST JAMMU, India ââ Indian army gunners fired at two Pakistani reconnaissance planes intruding into India's air space in Jammu-Kashmir on Monday, officials said. Army sources said one plane was believed to have been shot down, and that there was "an explosion followed by smoke from the other side." In New Delhi, an Indian Air Force source said the planes entered Indian territory around 2:30 p.m. local time. The source said the planes are believed to have been low-flying Mushaq trainer aircraft on a reconnaissance mission. Indian ground troops spotted them and opened fire, forcing them to return, the air force officer said. The Indian military was looking for wreckage in the area but it appeared that they had crossed over into Pakistani territory, the sources said. In Pakistan, army spokesman Col. Saulat Raza refused to comment. Pakistan's air force said it had no knowledge of the incident. Indian guns engaged the aircraft in the Chhamb Sector, said Col. S.P.K. Singh, the northern command army spokesman. The area is about 35 miles northwest of Jammu, the state's winter capital. India was lodging a complaint with Pakistan over the incident, the spokesman said. In the past, both India and Pakistan have alleged violations of air space against each other, but Monday's incident was the first in more than a year. The worst air clash occurred in August 1999 when Indian fighter planes shot down a Pakistani surveillance aircraft, the French-built Atlantic-I, over Kori Creek, a boggy expanse in the western Kutch peninsula. Sixteen Pakistani servicemen were killed. A day later, Pakistani troops fired a surface-to-air missile toward three Indian military helicopters flying journalists over the marshy border region. In a separate development, Kashmiri militants killed 15 Indian soldiers and wounded several others in an overnight attack on an army convoy in troubled Kashmir, rebels said Monday. Islamic guerrillas belonging to the Pakistan-based Al Badar Mujahedeen group reportedly ambushed the military convoy with rockets, automatic assault rifles and grenades. The attack occurred in Badgam in Indian Kashmir, they said. A statement issued by the group in Islamabad said rebels and Indian troops waged a bitter gunbattle for several hours. One rebel was killed. India accuses Pakistan of fomenting violence on its Kashmir territory and of backing Islamic militants waging a 12-year secessionist uprising. Pakistan denies the charge. Both countries lay claim to a united Kashmir, which was divided between the two uneasy neighbors after British rule of the region ended in 1947. The two neighbors, who both now possess nuclear weapons, have twice gone to war over Kashmir. Pakistan, meanwhile, condemned India of what it called launching a "campaign of terror and repression" in Kashmir. Scores of peaceful civilians, including children, have been killed and wounded by Indian army last week, Pakistan Foreign Ministry said in a statement. Pakistan also condemns the detention of Kashmiri separatist politicians and demands their immediate release, it said. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL
[CTRL] India tests its own missile
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Thursday, January 18, 2001 India tests its own missile -- -- From Rahul Bedi, in New Delhi INDIA India successfully test-fired its locally developed long-range intermediate ballistic missile capable of delivering a 2200 lbs (1,000 kg) nuclear payload to a distance of over 1,375 miles (2,000 km) yesterday. Defence officials said the locally designed Agni II (Fire), test-fired for the second time in nine months in its final "operational configuration from the interim test range at Chandipuron-Sea off the eastern Orissa coast, "satisfactorily" met its mission objectives. With an optimum striking range of 1,562 miles (2,500 km) the missile forms part of India's minimum nuclear deterrent, capable of delivering a nuclear warhead anywhere in neighbouring Pakistan, but more significantly, to southern China. Defence officials said the two stage, solid-fuel missile which is 20 metres long and weighs 16 tonnes is capable of being fired from a mobile rail launcher to avoid detection. Scientists were testing the missile's guidance systems, to ensure it landed not more than 100 yards from its target. At present India has only two sets of nuclear-capable missiles with ranges of 150 km and 250 km respectively. The missile test came as India and Pakistan are making tentative steps towards holding peace talks over the northern, disputed Kashmir state. It also coincided with the ongoing visit to India of China's second highest leader, Mr Li Peng, during which he advocated a swift resolution of the border dispute between the two countries over which they went to war in 1962. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] INDIA AND RUSSIA SIGN $3bn FIGHTER JET CONTRACT
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! INDIA AND RUSSIA SIGN $3bn FIGHTER JET CONTRACT 22:02 Thursday 28 December 2000 Russia and India have signed a $3 billion contract for India to produce a leading-edge Russian jet fighter under licence, the largest single arms contract ever signed between the two countries. The contract calls for Russia's Irkutsk Aviation enterprise to help India's Hindustan Aeronautics produce 140 Su-30MKI jets over the next 17 years. The slender, twin-engine aircraft is a multi-role fighter that Russia began design work on in 1991, and first demonstrated at an airshow in 1994. The aircraft is noteworthy for a unique design feature that allows the nozzles of the two jet engines to swivel, giving the pilot another method to control the plane along with flaps. In demonstration flights, pilots have flown the aircraft through graceful loops and brought it to a near standstill in the air using the swivel jets, showing a degree of maneuverability unusual for a supersonic aircraft. Dating back to Soviet times, India has purchased copious supplies of weapons from Russia, including large weapons systems such as submarines and surface ships. India has already purchased Su-30 MKI jets from Russia and equipped them with avionics and weapons systems from other countries. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] India-Israel Nuclear cooperation creates concern in Arab world
: India-Israel Nuclear cooperation creates concern in Arab world : By K. K. Katyal : NEW DELHI, JUNE 21. Sections of the Arab world are upset by reports of : the Home Minister, Mr. L. K. Advani's statement during his recent : visit to Israel. Some of the points, ascribed to him, are seen as : having the potential of damaging the traditional friendly relations. : However, the situation has not acquired unmanageable proportions and : is capable of being sorted out through timely clarifications. : The current Indian goverment is composed Hindu fanatics that rose to : power on anti-Muslim platform and destruction of Babari Mosque. The : Hindu fanatic party BJP has clearly indicated in cooperating with : anti-Muslim forces around the world. : What has particularly caused concern is Mr. Advani's remark, favouring : nuclear cooperation with Israel. He made this observation in response : to a question by reporters, while talking of increasing cooperation : with Israel in all fields. He was asked whether it also covered the : nuclear issue, and he was quoted as saying: ``I would certainly favour : increasing cooperation with Israel in all fields including this one : (nuclear)''. : The reports of what Mr. Advani said on various occasions during his : stay in Israel were closely monitored by the media in the Arab : countries. A leading Egyptian daily, for instance, reproduced his : remarks, as carried in the Israeli press, adding a critical comment to : it. The Arab diplomats here too do not hide their unhappiness. : By and large, Mr. Advani focussed on the problem created by terrorist : violence in Jammu and Kashmir systematically engineered by Pakistan. : The visit was intended to study Israel's border management techniques : and to draw upon Tel Aviv's experience to bolster measures for : tackling Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. At one stage - after his visit : to Israel's borders - Mr. Advani said: ``Indo-Pakistan border : management is a growing challenge India is facing in the wake of : systematically-planned incursions by Pakistan. What we have seen and : understood (here) would help us strengthen India's security.'' : There is nothing wrong in India learning from the experience of : others, Israel not excluded: on the other hand, it is absolutely : necessary because of the growing magnitude of the problem over the : years. Complications arise because of the lack of restraint by the : politicians in their public utterances. In this case, Mr. Advani's : comments revolving round Israeli experience and India's challenge, : tended to establish - in the Arab minds - a parallel between the : hostile activities of Pakistan in relation to India and the situation : faced by Israel on its borders because of the challenge posed by its : Arab neighbours. : This leads to the theory of parity of hostile neighbourhood of India : and Israel - a parallel that is resented by the Arab countries. Such : an impression - undoubtedly harmful to India's ties with the Arab : countries - could be dispelled through suitable explanations that the : study of the technical methods of others was seen as a value judgment : on the situations faced by them. : There is a case for increased appreciation by the Arab world of : India's predicament - created by the low-intensity conflict, foisted : on it by Pakistan. If that happens, New Delhi's search for improved : management techniques would not seem ominous. As for the talk of : ``nuclear cooperation'' with Israel, there is a case for categorical, : prompt clarification to prevent misunderstandings. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] India fights American neo-imperialism
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "we (the people of India) must fight this - neo American imperialism that Clinton symbolizes" National Alliance of Peoples Movements National Office: c/o Chemical Mazdoor Sabha, Haji Habib Building, A wing, First Floor, Naigoan Cross Road, Dadar (E), Mumbai 400 014 Tel: 022-4150529 (O) 022-5369724 (Res.-Sanjay MG) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Why the People of India Oppose Bill Clinton's Visit Statement by People's Movements and Organisations of National Alliance of People's Movements The powerholders and the capitalists in India and their retinue seem to be quite thrilled with the proposed visit of Mr. Bill Clinton, the President on United States of America. An anticipatory appeasement competition is on to prepare way for the satisfaction of the American decision makers. Nothing is allowed to mar this auspicious occassion. Not even the terse reminder by the Secretary of State, Mandeline Albright regarding the status of Kashmir and CTBT would affect the lacherous attitude of the present government - politicians and bureaucrats alike- and the big business, captalists who are in league to 'privatise' and 'globalise' the economy and polity of this country. They and a section of English language press have been making out as if the visit of U.S. President were a decisive moment in the history of India and the Indian sub-continent as a whole. There has been a flurry of activities and an atmosphere is being built up. The Kumarmangalams and Arun Jaitleys are out to show the progress in the liberaliation and privatisation agenda. They want to make it known to the American decision makers and capitalists that there are no problems, no opposition to the free entry of the capital and acquisition of resources of the people of this country. The people of the country are ashamed of the way the Chief Ministers of Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka have been vying for the visit of the American President to their capitals like two children eager to show their progress card to the master. A different and virtual reality regarding the major issues and problems is being created by the capitalist media and the government-big business. All this IT hype is to marginalise the real issues and concerns of the common people - the farmers, toilers, dalits, backward classes and castes, adivasis, fisherpeople, workers and other depressed classes of Indian society. The elites in this country are out to submerge the reality of this nation, the real concernes of the people and the visit of the American president provides them an apt moment to reinforce their attempts. However, the people and people's movements in this country will not allow the real issues to be hijacked with the visit of Mr. Clinton. We, the representatives of people's movements from all over India oppose the visit and the entire built up correponding to that visit. We see the American President's visit as another attempt to thrust the 'globalisation' agenda down to the throats of Indian people. The American capitalists and powerholders, through their President, have been trying to achieve what they failed to do at Seattle COnclave of the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in November, 1999. We oppose and the visit of Mr. Clinton' as the United States has been instrumental in imposing the unequal multilateral treaties on the developing nations. Be it in the form of the trade agrements or the impending the Agreement on Agriculture, the rights of the Third World countries are seriously curtailed in such unequal treaties. We question the rationale behind the newly touted Agreement on Agriculture. While the US. and European Union nations can have the state support to the agriculture in their countries on various pretexts, the developing nations are being told to cut subsidy and state support to agriculture which has already been in doldrums. The food security of India is being jeopartdised with the usurpation of the seeds, patents on bio-diversity, people's knowledge and the monopolisation of the agribusiness in the hands of a few conglomerates from the developed nations. The U.S. has been hypocritical in insisting on the labour and environmetal standards about the imports from the Third World countries, while encouraging the movement of capital and development pattern which has been highly violative of the environmental norms and labour rights. The entire gamut of 'globalisation' and WTO kind of development has been usurping the resources like land, water and water bodies from the hands of the people in this country and has been resulting in squeezing the employment opportunities, causing large scale retrenchment and unemployment. The WTO sponsored development pattern has given precedence to the monetary capital at the cost of the human and natural capital. Third World countries like India have been used as as
[CTRL] India
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update 17 March 2000 Summary U.S. President Bill Clinton will travel to South Asia March 19-25 - the first visit of a U.S. President to India in 22 years. Despite lofty references to a new chapter in Washington-New Delhi ties, India and the United States enter into the meeting from divergent positions. India intends to increase investment and hopes to re- establish itself as a key regional and international player. The United States wants to open India's markets, discuss nuclear proliferation and Kashmir, and pre-empt Chinese or Russian influence in South Asia. Given the wide range of issues on the table, substantial progress is unlikely. Analysis U.S. President Bill Clinton is traveling to India, Bangladesh and Pakistan March 19-25. It will be the first visit of a U.S. president to India in 22 years - and the most extensive ever. Characterizing the visit, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said Clinton "will seek to begin a new chapter in [U.S.] relations." But the mission will likely yield little; the countries' positions and goals differ greatly, and they both bestow different levels of importance to the visit. Relations between the United States and India, strained throughout the Cold War, have improved little following the collapse of the Soviet Union. India, a key member of the non-aligned movement, later signed a friendship treaty with the Soviet Union. Relations with Washington remained strained as India took on the role of spokesman for developing nations, chiding Western nations for perpetuating economic colonialism. Washington perceives India as fundamentally little more than a developing nation - albeit a very large one. It continues to view India as a prize to be won in order to counter the similar competing interests of Russia and China. Thus in talks and negotiations, the United States accords India a lower status than when dealing with nations like China or Russia. India, however, has clearly shown it wishes to be treated as equal to other regional powers; it has shunned advances from China and maintained a distance from Russia. This fundamental difference underlies and hinders Washington-New Delhi relations. Clinton's visit represents one of a great power to a minor nation. The U.S. agenda includes opening India's telecom markets to U.S. businesses, obtaining India's pledge to end nuclear testing and bringing stability to the Kashmir region. India views the talks as an opportunity to garner greater U.S. investment, easier access for Indian workers to the United States and the respect due a growing regional power. Isolated by deserts and mountains, India is nonetheless militarily and economically well positioned, straddling the sea route between the Middle East and Asia. India now asserts its independence after years of being constrained by Cold War animosities among China, Russia and the United States. New Delhi has already shown clear resolve to reject treatment as a pawn in the multi-player game. India's nuclear tests in 1998, which strained relations with Washington, broadcast India's importance to the world, as well as to Pakistan. Despite this, the United States continues to treat India as a lesser priority to China. U.S. imports from India in 1998 amounted to less than 12 percent of those from China, according to U.S. trade data. Exports to India amounted to just 25 percent of those to China. Further, U.S. foreign direct investment to India in the financial year to March 1999 was barely 12 percent of that invested in China, according to an Indo-American Chamber of Commerce official cited by Agence France Presse. For India, as one of the world's largest democratic nations, it is an insult that Washington apparently has a greater interest in relations with communist China. Clinton's visit to India will likely be frustrating and disappointing, accentuating the apparent friendliness of Pakistan during his brief stopover. Already claiming Clinton's Pakistan visit as a victory over India, Islamabad will willingly discuss Kashmir with Washington. It is yet to be seen whether India will succeed in its goals to be treated as an equal among Asia's powers. However, New Delhi's determination to assert its status will clash with Washington's moves to recruit India as a subordinate South Asian ally. Clinton's visit will likely accomplish little, considering the widely differing perceptions of its importance. (c) 2000, Stratfor, Inc. http://www.stratfor.com/ **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref.
[CTRL] India - Kashmir - Pakistan
-Caveat Lector- From NewStatesman Picture: New Statesman Logo 7 June 1999 PicturePicture Just a small skirmish in Kashmir? John Elliott on why the India-Pakistan border is suddenly the world's most dangerous place PictureIf Nato can bomb Milosevic in the backyard of Europe, Kosovo, who can complain if India bombs infiltrators from Pakistan in its own remote mountain region of Kashmir? Not America, which traditionally backs Pakistan, nor even Robin Cook, whose pro-Pakistan stubbornness destabilised the Queen's visit to India in 1997. For once the west seems to accept that difficult, proud India can have right on its side. Western powers even remained quiet last weekend when the Indian prime minister, Atal Behari Vajpayee, politely brushed aside a mediation offer from Kofi Annan, the UN secretary-general, and refused to stop the bombing till the infiltrators withdrew: shades of Nato determination there. Despite the similarities to Nato and Kosovo, there is more to this dangerous situation than just another major power starting a small local skirmish to bring order to a remote region. India and Pakistan both tested nuclear weapons a year ago, making the use of a tactical nuclear warhead in a Kashmir-type conflict a worrying possibility. These bitterly divided countries have fought three wars since they became independent in 1947, and the use of nuclear weapons is far more likely to begin in a local engagement such as Kashmir than in a primary attack on each other's major cities. The situation is dangerous because of its scale, too. After nearly 20 years of sending infiltrators to make trouble in India (first during the Sikh unrest in Punjab in the 1980s, then in Kashmir from about 1989), Pakistan has gone a step too far this year. Taking advantage of Indian dilatoriness, Pakistan's forces infiltrated up to 1,000 men (its own troops and Afghan and other Islamic fundamentalists) across the Indian border into the 16-18,000ft peaks of the Ladakh range of mountains when snows began to melt earlier this year. Before the Indians had woken up to the seriousness of what was happening, the infiltrators had occupied the Indian summertime posts. There has been sporadic shelling across this border every summer for several years - usually started by whichever country's troops have the higher ground. Pakistan has the height advantage near the Indian truck-stop town of Kargil, on a key highway that links Srinagar, capital of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, to Leh, in Ladakh. Kargil was a focal point of the 1965 Indo-Pakistan war and is at the centre of the current conflict. This year the scale of hostilities is dramatically different. For the first time, the infiltrators broke through the line of control that marks the border between the two countries, and took up high positions that gave them a good chance of seizing a section of the highway - a strategic defeat that no Indian government could countenance. This is as much a shock to India as it is to world opinion. Only two months ago Vajpayee made his dramatic peacemaking bus trip to the Pakistani city of Lahore to meet Nawaz Sharif, his Pakistani counterpart. After the trip, Vajpayee had been planning to campaign in India's general election this autumn on the basis that his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) could build peace with Pakistan. The west had also been unwisely lulled into hoping that the risk of conflict between these two nuclear powers had been significantly diminished. A tough Indian response is inevitable. First, the Vajpayee government has to make up for the failure of its defence and intelligence services to spot the infiltrators till they were well entrenched and had started shelling Indian ammunition stores and a road-building gang that was diverting the Srinagar-Leh highway away from the border. Second, they have to overcome the suspicion that Pakistan conned Vajpayee on the bus trip and must have already planned its Kargil military initiative. Third, the Hindu nationalist BJP must sell itself as the guardian of India's borders, especially against Islamic marauders. Pakistan's motives and strategy are more complex. Sharif, a skilful politician who is gaining a near-dictatorial hold over his economically crippled country, seems to have been playing on two levels. He has been successfully wooing world opinion for economic support by appearing to make peace with India, while allowing the Kargil offensive to go ahead in order to placate Islamic extremists at home. He has also destabilised Indian Kashmir, which had become so peaceful in the past year that tourists had been returning to Srinagar and its famous Dal lake houseboats. But most important, Sharif is internationalising Kashmir by underlining that it is the central issue in India-Pakistan relations. This is important because India wants to put Kashmir to one side and build friendship initially on other,
[CTRL] India and AIDS
-Caveat Lector- India 1) losing coconut oil market to vegitables oils that can be grown in other climates 2) is primarily vegitarian 3) protesting Terminator technology 4) would definatly see the effect of pesticides and herbicides effect the human body and how they effect the immune system. 5) Has highest rate of AIDS (of all countries) 6) AIDS is the break down of the immune system DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- India: Hindu Body Wants Ban on Religious Conversion Reuters 22-JAN-99 NEW DELHI, Jan 22 (Reuters) - A Hindu group at the centre of allegations over recent violence against Christians in western India said on Friday there must be a ban on religious conversions. "There should be a complete ban on religious conversions," leaders of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) said in a memorandum addressed to Indian President K.R. Narayanan. VHP leaders have repeatedly denied allegations that the group was involved in attacks on Christian institutions and individuals in the western province of Gujarat but said they were opposed to forced conversions to Christianity. In the memorandum they said the federal government must order an inquiry into the violent incidents in the Dangs district of Gujarat where Christians have been targeted since Christmas Day. "The incidents in December in Gujarat were a reaction toChristian missionaries' attempts to convert tribals either forcibly or by misleading them through greed," the VHP said in the memorandum. Christian activists and church leaders stress they are only helping the poor find better lives and conversions can only be done willingly. Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited.All rights reserved. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
