Re: [CTRL] Agee - CIA Traitor Now Activates per CNN InterviewYesterday....
From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So let me tell you this, you stupid moron - f you want to call names > expect to get called a few back..you see to have a lot of people on > this list who think you are some kind of an idiot. Who, exactly? Surely nowhere near as many as consider YOU an idiot, Colleen... While Joshua and I may not always see eye-to-eye, I definitely do not consider him 'some kind of idiot'...and I'm sure the majority of listmembers here feel the same... > Russian Jewish Mafia got JFK andyone inside knows it. Which I suppose should be construed as to imply that YOU are 'inside'...? Anyone believe that? If so, I have a bridge in NYC and some Florida swampland I can let you have, cheap... ;-) > So read what this traitor did.when the CIA was RUN by Wasps, it was > a loyal organization, If you consider an organization that treats the Constitution as if it were toilet paper 'a loyal organization'...then we have to ask, loyal to WHOM? > and until you have some personal contact with > these peopleyou should keep your melon size mouth shut. Well now, Colleen...YOU seem to be the one here who is spouting off the loudest and the longest... And for someone who implies that she is 'on the inside' and has 'some personal contact with these people', it DOES explain why, doesn't it? Can anyone spell D-I-S-I-N-F-O-R-M-A-T-I-O-N-A-L-I-S-T ??? ;-) June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Agee - CIA Traitor Now Activates per CNN InterviewYesterday....
Joshua you are the idiot; Agee is in with his own kind now - I have known loyal CIA Agents - Agee printed names of agents overseas in his book and this following story shows what a traitor he was. Last night that ugly traitor, was on TV in Cuba where he surely is at home by now. We know who killed John F. Kennedy and who did what to Bobby - and we know Meyer Lansky of the Jewish Mafia had a big hand in it = Russian Jewish Mafia. All these traitors also had signed conracts - maybe given a masonic handshake? So once again, Joshua II - maybe some of the things people have told me about you, is true. Isn't this a conspiracy theory list? Do we have to listen to someone like you who claimed to be a mechanic? Do not insult the mechanics Some of these so called CIA agents, like Gordon Novel, were never in the CIA; he once told me that was thing he regretted, that he had indicated so. So let me tell you this, you stupid moron - f you want to call names expect to get called a few back..you see to have a lot of people on this list who think you are some kind of an idiot. Russian Jewish Mafia got JFK andyone inside knows it. So much for Lanksy who was also Mossad and hired killer who got wealthy on drugs, murder, pornography, Saba Oh and remember dear Henry Kissinger, typical Mossad Agent spying on CIA who let a list on a table to be photogrpahedmy old friend was MI6 and wrote the story on that one...and CIA BOB POPE, of NE printed it - this former KGB Agent Code Name Bor So read what this traitor did.when the CIA was RUN by Wasps, it was a loyal organization, and until you have some personal contact with these peopleyou should keep your melon size mouth shut. A Traitor is a Traitor; and Agee stood on Cuban TV last night - he looked rather decadent - hope he likes Cuba. ONCE AGAIN, EX-AGENT PHILIP AGEE ELUDES CIA's GRASP Los Angeles Times NATION & WORLD Tuesday, October 14, 1997 By JAMES RISEN, Times Staff Writer Espionage: An effort to get secrets for Cuba was foiled, but he got away before case against him could be made, officials say. He denies charges. WASHINGTON -- It was an aggressive, even reckless bit of espionage, allegedly committed by a man too well known for his own good. CIA officials and other U.S. government sources charged that Philip Agee, a former CIA officer, author and CIA critic, went undercover as a spy for Cuba in late 1989 to try to pry secrets out of a female staff member in the agency's Mexico City station. U.S. officials alleged that Agee was acting on behalf of Cuba's intelligence service, which has long staked out Mexico as a central espionage battleground with the CIA. Agee has denied the charges. Agee, posing as a member of the CIA's inspector general's staff, tried to convince the staff member that he needed information about the Mexico City station as part of a secret investigation, the officials charged. CIA sources said that Cuban intelligence traditionally has targeted women staffers in their espionage operations. The plot failed, U.S. officials said, when the CIA employee reported the contact and brought two CIA case officers with her to her second meeting with Agee. But one of the two case officers told Agee that he recognized him, the officials said, and Agee ended his efforts before enough evidence could be collected against him to bring formal charges. The two CIA officers later were disciplined for their failure to notify their superiors of Agee's alleged action early enough for the FBI to launch a criminal investigation of whether the former CIA agent had committed espionage against the United States. Agee's alleged willingness to act as a field agent for the Cubans astonished U.S. intelligence officials. They said they believe that Agee -- who quit the CIA during the Vietnam War in 1968 and later was known for his willingness to expose undercover CIA officers and operations through public lectures, magazines and books -- has been working for Cuban intelligence since the early 1970s. A high-ranking Cuban defector in 1992 told The Times that Agee had repeatedly taken money that the Cuban intelligence service had received from the Soviet KGB intelligence agency. But CIA officers said that they had never seen Agee work openly as a field operative for the Cubans until his alleged approach to the female CIA staff member in Mexico City -- an incident that remains classified. In written responses to a series of questions from The Times, Agee denied that he was involved in the Mexico City case. He suggested that the story of his involvement in Mexico City had been inspired by the CIA to counter a lawsuit in which he is seeking damages for alleged illegal actions committed against him by the CIA in the early 1970s. He stressed that he is not a Cuban agent. "The story is one more in a long line of false allegations [inspired by the CIA] going back to the first mention of me in the New York Times of July 4, 1974," Agee sai
Re: [CTRL] Agee - CIA Traitor Now Activates per CNN InterviewYesterday....
Aleisha Saba wrote: > > This is a man now living in Cuba former CIA traitor..his > appearance was not expected by some, but just think our President and > Castro were to meet at World Trade Center - > > So now enters the Traitor AgeeWill the Mafia return to Havanna? > > And Agee said "no secret hand" in civil rioting in 60 period- what > is Agee doing in Cuba? > And to whom, did Castro answer? Chickens come home to roost? > > A Saba You are an idiot. If you think Phil Agee is a traitor, then you're too stupid to even know who your enemies are. Do you just post all your stupid shit, or do you ever read some of the stuff on this list? What a moron. Joshua2 > > This page is black in protest of the CDA. If you do not know what that > is click here. > > This is the unedited version of my interview with former CIA agent Phil > Agee. click here to go back to the Daily Beacon Page. If you want to > get in touch with me via e-mail click here. > > SR: The first question that I have is that people have the impression > that the CIA is a Big Omnipresent Government Agency with its hand in > everything. How true is this belief? > > PA: I think that's relatively untrue and it depends what period of > history you are talking about. During the 1960's President Johnson was > obsessed with the idea that there was a foreign hand behind the anti-war > movement and he told the FBI to find that hand. The FBI did the > investigation and they couldn't find it and they told Johnson that and > he hit the roof, he said there is a foreign hand in there. So he told > the CIA in 1967 "I want you to find the foreign hand." > > And, so the CIA begin a whole series of illegal operations inside the > United States because they are, by law, barred from an internal security > function. But they searched high and low abroad and in the United States > and they went back to Johnson and told him "No, we can't find the > foreign hand; and there is no foreign hand as far as we're concerned of > any significance." > > By that time Johnson's presidency was destroyed by the Vietnam War and > in came Richard Nixon in 1969. Nixon too was obsessed with finding the > foreign hand behind the anti-war movement. He had the CIA continue these > illegal operations that they were doing and had the FBI also continue a > whole series of operations that were illegal against the anti-war > movement and against various groups particularly the Black Panthers. > > The FBI continued to tell Nixon that there was no foreign hand the CIA > did the same. So Nixon came up with what was known as the Houston Plan, > after Tom Houston who was an assistant council to the President, and > this was a whole series of illegal operations to intensify this search > for the foreign hand and at the same time to neutralize the opposition > to Nixon's policies in Vietnam. > > He was paranoid, as everyone knows, he was so paranoid that he even > bugged himself. But, it never turned up, the foreign hand, because there > was no foreign hand to turn up. The CIA was collecting files on > thousands of people at that time inside this country. But that was an > unusual period, even though they had been reviewing mail, going out to > the Soviet Union and other communist countries and other places for some > 20 years from 1952 to 1972, I don't think that you can say that the CIA > hand is everywhere. > > Or ever was everywhere in the United States. It has a definite role and > it carries out this role mainly, almost exclusively, abroad. Whereas the > FBI is the Agency charged with internal security, and wherever a group > arose, and whenever a group arose that the FBI considered to be a threat > to the stability, a potential threat to the stability, of the United > States, and this goes on into the 1930's; they would initiate what they > call counterintelligence programs or COINTELLPROS for short. > > These operations went on into the 1970's and they only became known > after unknown persons stole several thousand pages from the FBI offices > in Pennsylvania and this eventually came out in the press. And then the > whole COINTELPRO program became known and Hoover stopped it as such. > But, there can be know doubt that this continued on into the 1980's in > the operations against the solidarity movement with El Salvador and > Nicaragua because there have been exposes on those operations. > > So, the way to look at this is that the FBI and the CIA are organized to > sustain and promote stability. The CIA outside the United States the FBI > inside the United States. And this means secret operations against all > those groups that are potentially destabalizing factors. And so its a > matter of looking at the groups that exist and assuming that they are > going to be targets and that there is where the attention will fall. But > not over the general population as such. > > SR: How much of what the American public hears through the mass media > about foreign relations
