Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Lloyd Miller wrote: -Caveat Lector- Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest Generation. What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI! Dispatching Nazi and Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese totalitarianism. A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure! Hey I like what you say tell us more! Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Yes, it is true, the Brokaw book, The Greatest Generation is a tribute by the Ruling Elite to the hapless generation of dupes that spilt the blood and made the sacrifices to make many of the Ruling Elite's dreams come true. While it is true that this generation has exhibited an unshakable and deplorable fatalism, especially in the last few decades, (never has so many done so little with so much!) -- and yet, there is still something admirable in the discipline and self-sacrifice of this generation. If our generation (25-50 or so) could combine an equal discipline and spirit of self-sacrifice to the greatly increased critical thinking that is now extant -- we would have something. Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hawk Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 1:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools! -Caveat Lector- Lloyd Miller wrote: -Caveat Lector- Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest Generation. What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI! Dispatching Nazi and Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese totalitarianism. A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure! Hey I like what you say tell us more! Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Lloyd, While I can apprecitate that your point of view need mot be the same as everyone's, I must disagree. Perhaps they were pawns in a greater scheme (or perhaps not), but they most certainly WERE NOT spineless. Would you have had the courage to set foor on Omaha Beach, knowing that there was an almost 100% chance that you would be cut down instantly? These men and women paid the greatest price in the interest of democracy. Don't spit on their graves by calling them spineless. JB -- From: Lloyd Miller[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 8:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools! -Caveat Lector- Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest Generation. What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI! Dispatching Nazi and Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese totalitarianism. A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure! *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Video Finder, Free Catalogs, Links, Sweepstakes, What-Not: http://www.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 8:48:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, lloyd@A- ALBIONIC.COM writes: What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII Wow, that mean old FDR was pretty tricky OK. Imagine how he suckered the Japanese to invade Singapore, Indonesia, Indochina, Burma etc. Did Roosevelt also trick the Japanese into invading Manchuria in 1931? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Jim Condit Jr. wrote: -Caveat Lector- Yes, it is true, the Brokaw book, The Greatest Generation is a tribute by the Ruling Elite to the hapless generation of dupes that spilt the blood and made the sacrifices to make many of the Ruling Elite's dreams come true. While it is true that this generation has exhibited an unshakable and deplorable fatalism, especially in the last few decades, (never has so many done so little with so much!) -- and yet, there is still something admirable in the discipline and self-sacrifice of this generation. If our generation (25-50 or so) could combine an equal discipline and spirit of self-sacrifice to the greatly increased critical thinking that is now extant -- we would have something. Jim Condit Jr. I agree. My parents generation were certainly hard workers and put up with a lot more then we would. Even at 73, my mother is still busy helping others by running an english as a second language course at her church and helping a woman on a regular basis who has lost her ability to speak. And my father is still out helping record musicicians, design sound systems and help people out in various ways. I have a lot of respect for them. However, they really didn't and still don't have a clue as to what is going on in the world. (Which may be a particial explanation for their unquestioning enthusiasm for much which I find questionable). What if our generation made the real sacrifices their did with our greater understanding of the way the world works and was able to actually change it? Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
