Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What if it is solar operated if that is IT: So what? The picture shows a device that is too unwieldy to be used by anyone but the very young, who'd be able to keep their balance on it for more than a few moments. Hardly a device around which cities would be designed, as was touted in the articles. but this guy with all his patents, is a dreamer - he calls this dream Ginger. I'm still going with Ginger Rogers as the inspiration. Remember the movie where Fred Astaire danced with a mop, and then with a coatrack? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- Do you remember advertising "The Birds" is coming..now I guessed that was a book or movie because, they used is instead of "are".used to be a stickler on grammar now I like many others have been subjected to too many aint's and "he don'ts" to be concerned am more interested in message. This guy has a good PR man.must have hired Bill Clintons for the IT to come into being.was a book called IT? So maybe it is a pair of walking shoes with little rays of light - energizers for feet to make all travel like great god Mercury. But then with size 12 shoes some people could have problem. Maybe put ginger someplace else? I await yet to see "The Birds" for when the movie came around, have not seen yet. Birds can be a problem though - so many found feet up in fields these days - maybe IT is already here - we all fly with wings of eagles? Would rather having moving sidewalks with little chairs operated by solar energy to take me from my suburban home to Dixie. One way sidewalks...and burn bridges behind me. So IT is coming with ginger up the nose? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- Well, I estimate that "Ginger" is a tongue-in-cheek joke. Many feel that "IT" is some variety of free or abundant energy device. Imagine "Ginger" as the Great Karnak's answer to the question "What's the single, solitary thing that a man would need/want if stranded on a desert island?" The wise-acre answer is "Ginger" from Gilligan's island--the practical answer is an abundant or free energy source. What would be the fulfillment fantasy of Tom Hanks in Castaway? See, perhaps http://www.wirednews.com/wired/archive/8.09/kamen.html Lately, Kamen has broadened his work beyond health care. He believes technology and ingenuity can solve all kinds of social ills - like pollution, limited access to electricity, and contaminated water in many third-world countries, where bacteria from human feces in drinking water is a leading cause of cholera. To help ameliorate the water problem, Deka's team of 170 engineers is working on a nonpolluting engine - funded by several million dollars of Kamen's own money - based on a concept first floated in the early 1800s but never realized. The device is called the Stirling engine; Kamen hopes it can be developed into an affordable, portable machine that will run a water purifier/power generator that could zap contaminated H20 with a UV laser to make it safe for drinking. "It can burn any fuel, and you can do all kinds of things with it," he says. "It might be very valuable in emerging economies, giving them access to electricity, even the Net." - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Picture of "IT?" -Caveat Lector- What if it is solar operated if that is IT: but this guy with all his patents, is a dreamer - he calls this dream Ginger. Remember my great Uncle Jefferson Davis Hoke telling tales with his brother, Stonewall Jackson Home stories about putting "ginger" up a horses nose - gives it a lot of energy, etc., and then these farmers would get the best in a horse deal. Ginger, is red; maybe ginger is a form of energymaybe, hey maybe he is selling souped up horses? Wonder why he used word Ginger - Just a thought.so much for horse traders and "Ginger". Solar energy and space is the future - things are changing and soon, we will use corn oil or soy oil as form of gasoline. Buicks used to be called Hayburners - for they at one time really burned up the gasoline. Wonder if a lot of people tried to invest in the IT, and whether just maybe it is - well like the woman who for $15.00 could cut her energy billin return, she got two clothes pinsnow that was expensive lesson in - salesmenship? Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available a
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- The big deal is that while the motor is running it CAN NOT be tipped over...you don't have to keep your balance at all, the machine does it for you Mike -Original Message- From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Picture of "IT?" -Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What if it is solar operated if that is IT: So what? The picture shows a device that is too unwieldy to be used by anyone but the very young, who'd be able to keep their balance on it for more than a few moments. Hardly a device around which cities would be designed, as was touted in the articles. but this guy with all his patents, is a dreamer - he calls this dream Ginger. I'm still going with Ginger Rogers as the inspiration. Remember the movie where Fred Astaire danced with a mop, and then with a coatrack? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- while the motor is running Where's the motor? Where's the fuel tank. What kind of motor is it? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
Title: RE: [CTRL] Picture of IT? And is this what IT really is? According to who? -Original Message- From: Nessie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT? -Caveat Lector- while the motor is running Where's the motor? Where's the fuel tank. What kind of motor is it? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- It's a Stirling engine: see this various websites: http://www.lanl.gov/mst/engine/ http://techni.tachemie.uni-leipzig.de/stirling/ http://jenny.mes.titech.ac.jp/jshinozu/Engine/engine.html http://me.mit.edu/2.670/Stirl/stirl.html http://www.webcom.com/sknkwrks/stirling.htm http://www.samurai.com/lists/trawler-world-hybrid- power/0135.html and especialliy http://www.ragerobotics.org/Dean%20Kamen%20article%20in%20WIRED.htm - Original Message - From: "Nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Picture of "IT?" -Caveat Lector- while the motor is running Where's the motor? Where's the fuel tank. What kind of motor is it? A HREF=ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ===CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- re: Ginger or IT: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,41197,00.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Mike Switzer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The big deal is that while the motor is running it CAN NOT be tipped over...you don't have to keep your balance at all, the machine does it for you I can't see that by the drawing...the drawing shows something that to me looks like it can tip over very easily, motor running or not... I just can't see senior citizens with arthritis and rheumatism operating these things...and again, I find it hard to believe that whole communities (not to mention cities) will be designed around them. Sorry...this to me has all the signs of those 'personal helicopters' one saw touted in news reels of the late 40s and early 50s...remember, by the late 1960s, we were all going to be commuting to work via those 'personal helicopters'? Those too were described as something that would ultimately have whole cities designed around them... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- It's a Stirling engine: see this various websites: He has certainly worked on Sterling motors. But I don't see one in this picture. Nor do I see fuel tanks. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where's the motor? Where's the fuel tank. What kind of motor is it? Supposedly it utilizes some sort of 'alternative' fuel source, and so would not need a fuel tank as we know it, or indeed need a fuel tank at all. For that matter, it may not utilize a motor as we know it. Doesn't change the fact that it looks damn difficult for anyone above the age of 25 to use... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,41197,00.html "But unless all the news reports have been severely overblown, it would have to be a device that more people would be willing and able to climb on. I can't see me balancing all 278 pounds of my middle-aged body on a scooter - and I'm thinking Kamen's device has wider applications than a fun way to get to the store." Precisely the point I have been trying to make... But perhaps we're all expecting too much. Kamen released a statement saying he is disappointed with the leak of his book proposal, and now feels that expectations for IT have been raised too high. "The leaked proposal quoted several prominent technology leaders out of context, without their doubts, risks and maybes included," the statement said. "This, together with spirited speculation about the unknown, has led to expectations that are beyond whimsical. We have a promising project, but nothing of the earth-shattering nature that people are conjuring up. Sounds like back-peddling to me. First we have it that this device will result in cities being built around it; now we are being told that there is 'nothing of the earth-shattering nature' about it... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- At 12:08 PM 1/14/01 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- This, some say, may be "IT": http://www.delphion.com/gifcache/WO00075001A1.tif.45.s0.35.r0.gif A motorized unicycle??? BwaaHaaHaaHaaHaaHaaHaaHaHahahahahahaha That's a good one. --- -The Extremist (I can't even skateboard and it has four wheels) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: "The Extremist" [EMAIL PROTECTED] A motorized unicycle??? BwaaHaaHaaHaaHaaHaaHaaHaHahahahahahaha That's a good one. --- -The Extremist (I can't even skateboard and it has four wheels) Yes...unless I'm missing something, I fail to see how a jazzed-up unicycle can bring about all the fabulous changes to society touted in the article about 'IT'... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- What if it is solar operated if that is IT: but this guy with all his patents, is a dreamer - he calls this dream Ginger. Remember my great Uncle Jefferson Davis Hoke telling tales with his brother, Stonewall Jackson Home stories about putting "ginger" up a horses nose - gives it a lot of energy, etc., and then these farmers would get the best in a horse deal. Ginger, is red; maybe ginger is a form of energymaybe, hey maybe he is selling souped up horses? Wonder why he used word Ginger - Just a thought.so much for horse traders and "Ginger". Solar energy and space is the future - things are changing and soon, we will use corn oil or soy oil as form of gasoline. Buicks used to be called Hayburners - for they at one time really burned up the gasoline. Wonder if a lot of people tried to invest in the IT, and whether just maybe it is - well like the woman who for $15.00 could cut her energy billin return, she got two clothes pinsnow that was expensive lesson in - salesmenship? Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?
-Caveat Lector- I want one. What's the patent number? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om