Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-23 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
On 23.05.2020 02:08, matthew sporleder wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 5:57 PM Greg A. Woods wrote: >> >> At Thu, 21 May 2020 15:11:41 -0400, Andrew Cagney >> wrote: >> Subject: Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old? >>> >>> The details are all found

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-22 Thread matthew sporleder
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 5:57 PM Greg A. Woods wrote: > > At Thu, 21 May 2020 15:11:41 -0400, Andrew Cagney > wrote: > Subject: Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old? > > > > The details are all found here: > > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-repository/2020/02/1

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-22 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Thu, 21 May 2020 15:11:41 -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote: Subject: Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old? > > The details are all found here: > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-repository/2020/02/17/msg000685.html That just says what might happen (and what could/should happen at the

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-21 Thread Andrew Cagney
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:25, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > At Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:32:11 +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Subject: Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old? > > > > This is an old discussion. If you are interested in this, read the > > archives of the t

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-18 Thread Mike Pumford
On 18/05/2020 14:03, matthew sporleder wrote: If you want small and fast you can use shallow clone and, although you get the entire tree's bundle, it is small and fast. You can then use --sparse to build a "sparse" (kernel only or whatever) limited checkout (aka working dir) -- (new git

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-18 Thread matthew sporleder
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 8:08 PM Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 09:23, Hauke Fath > wrote: >> >> [re-directing to tech-repository, which was created precisely to keep >> debates like this one off the other lists...] >> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 14:47:02 +0200, Jens Rehsack

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-17 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 09:23, Hauke Fath wrote: > [re-directing to tech-repository, which was created precisely to keep > debates like this one off the other lists...] > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 14:47:02 +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: > > I doubt that you'll find a modern solution running fine on any

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-14 Thread Marc Balmer
I would be very happy if a decision would be taken in a timely manner. I prefer git over mercurial, but any of them is better than cvs. > Am 14.05.2020 um 17:27 schrieb Martin Husemann : > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 09:16:31PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: >> I.e. the final repo DAG should

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-14 Thread Martin Husemann
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 09:16:31PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > I.e. the final repo DAG should contain all submitted commits, and all > that history should be visible to those who look for it (just as is the > case with merges from github "pull requests"). This is the case in our setup. In the

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-14 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Wed, 13 May 2020 22:11:20 -0400, John Franklin wrote: Subject: Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?) > > Put another way, it’s nothing more than “please consider the changes > in branch jqcoder/foo for inclusion in your project.” Any DVCS that > can han

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-14 Thread John Franklin
On May 14, 2020, at 09:07, Hauke Fath wrote: > > [re-directing to tech-repository, which was created precisely to keep > debates like this one off the other lists...] My apologies. I’ll continue this thread on tech-repository. jf -- John Franklin frank...@elfie.org

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-14 Thread Hauke Fath
[re-directing to tech-repository, which was created precisely to keep debates like this one off the other lists...] On Thu, 14 May 2020 14:47:02 +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: > I doubt that you'll find a modern solution running fine on any 4M computer. > Network filesystems, cross compilers etc.

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-14 Thread John Franklin
On May 14, 2020, at 09:26, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:11:14PM -0400, John Franklin wrote: >> There are scalability issues with Mercurial, too. I cloned NetBSD src >> on a 1GB RAM, 1GB swap, 4 CPU VM (Debian Buster) using git from the >> GitHub project and from

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-14 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:11:14PM -0400, John Franklin wrote: > There are scalability issues with Mercurial, too. I cloned NetBSD src > on a 1GB RAM, 1GB swap, 4 CPU VM (Debian Buster) using git from the > GitHub project and from anonhg.netbsd.org. You are comparing Apples and Oranges. The

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-14 Thread Jens Rehsack
> Am 14.05.2020 um 04:52 schrieb matthew sporleder : > > > >> On May 13, 2020, at 10:11 PM, John Franklin wrote: >> >> On Apr 30, 2020, at 21:28, bch wrote: >>> >>> I thought the plan to move to HG hasn't been finalised yet, am I missing >>> something? Plus, why HG and not Fossil, if

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-13 Thread matthew sporleder
> On May 13, 2020, at 10:11 PM, John Franklin wrote: > > On Apr 30, 2020, at 21:28, bch wrote: >> >> I thought the plan to move to HG hasn't been finalised yet, am I missing >> something? Plus, why HG and not Fossil, if the end-result consumption is >> via Git anyways? >> >> Last I

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-13 Thread John Franklin
On May 13, 2020, at 17:56, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > At Wed, 13 May 2020 21:30:29 +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > Subject: Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?) >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:21:50PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: >>>

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-13 Thread John Franklin
On Apr 30, 2020, at 21:28, bch wrote: > > I thought the plan to move to HG hasn't been finalised yet, am I missing > something? Plus, why HG and not Fossil, if the end-result consumption is via > Git anyways? > > Last I heard fossil had scaling issues due to the large number of artifacts >

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Wed, 13 May 2020 21:30:29 +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: Subject: Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?) > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:21:50PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > At Wed, 13 May 2020 14:14:16 +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > > &g

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-13 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:21:50PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Wed, 13 May 2020 14:14:16 +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > > I have no idea what the OP is talking about. Mercurial doesn't have pull > > requests, neither does git BTW. So this is about some specific web UI or > > review

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Wed, 13 May 2020 14:14:16 +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: Subject: Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?) > > The staging area is a general point of contention, even in the git > world. Interactive commits (commit -i) and incrementally amending > changes

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Wed, 13 May 2020 07:53:28 +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: Subject: Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?) > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 08:55:05PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > For one, Mercurial has no staging area. That removes one level of > >

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-13 Thread Jens Rehsack
> Am 13.05.2020 um 05:55 schrieb Greg A. Woods : > > At Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:50:55 +, m...@netbsd.org wrote: > Subject: Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old? >> >> As a reminder, hg/git offer far better interoperability (than CVS). >> Much of my own NetBSD work

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-13 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 08:55:05PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > For one, Mercurial has no staging area. That removes one level of > the three-level hierarchy from my toolset. It’s hard to identify > exactly when in my workflow this causes issues, but I’ve started to > notice it.

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 08:55:05PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > For one, Mercurial has no staging area. That removes one level of > the three-level hierarchy from my toolset. It’s hard to identify > exactly when in my workflow this causes issues, but I’ve started to > notice it.

Re: ongoing git vs hg (was: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?)

2020-05-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:50:55 +, m...@netbsd.org wrote: Subject: Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old? > > As a reminder, hg/git offer far better interoperability (than CVS). > Much of my own NetBSD work is done on Git, and even if I don't stop > doing this, I would be happier if

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-08 Thread bch
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 17:44 Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 12:20, wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:30:48PM +1000, Paul Ripke wrote: >> > I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github >> > NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? >>

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-05-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 04:09:38AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Mercurial has a problem which may be resolved in a future release, if it > hasn't already: dependency on the deprecated Python 2.7. The information you read is outdated. The pkgsrc package already builds hg against python 3.7.

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-30 Thread Thomas Mueller
from "Constantine A. Murenin" : > On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 12:20, wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:30:48PM +1000, Paul Ripke wrote: > > > I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github > > > NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? > > Yes, I believe joerg and

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-30 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 12:20, wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:30:48PM +1000, Paul Ripke wrote: > > I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github > > NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? > > Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing the conversion from >

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-28 Thread Marc Balmer
> Am 28.04.2020 um 10:50 schrieb m...@netbsd.org : > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 08:30:43AM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: >> >> >>> Am 28.04.2020 um 08:29 schrieb Andreas Gustafsson : >>> >>> m...@netbsd.org wrote: Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing the conversion from

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-28 Thread maya
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 08:30:43AM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: > > > > Am 28.04.2020 um 08:29 schrieb Andreas Gustafsson : > > > > m...@netbsd.org wrote: > >> Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing the conversion from > >> cvs->??->git to hg->git, to match what will be done once we stop using

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-28 Thread Marc Balmer
> Am 28.04.2020 um 08:29 schrieb Andreas Gustafsson : > > m...@netbsd.org wrote: >> Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing the conversion from >> cvs->??->git to hg->git, to match what will be done once we stop using >> CVS. > > Has there been a formal decision choosing hg over git? I am

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-28 Thread Andreas Gustafsson
m...@netbsd.org wrote: > Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing the conversion from > cvs->??->git to hg->git, to match what will be done once we stop using > CVS. Has there been a formal decision choosing hg over git? -- Andreas Gustafsson, g...@gson.org

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-27 Thread Thomas Mueller
> This is an old discussion. If you are interested in this, read the > archives of the tech-repository mailing list. > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-repository/tindex.html > Short version: we're migrating to hg, it goes slowly, but progress is made. > Cheers, > Thomas (Klausner) That URL

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-27 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:32:11 +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: Subject: Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old? > > This is an old discussion. If you are interested in this, read the > archives of the tech-repository mailing list. > > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-repository/tinde

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-27 Thread Thomas Klausner
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 07:24:30PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > Then what will be the primary way to track NetBSD src and pkgsrc trees? > > > > Now it's CVS, mirrored to git. What will replace CVS, will it be git, > > > hg, or something else, and will it be in the base system, or will it

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-27 Thread Thomas Mueller
> > Then what will be the primary way to track NetBSD src and pkgsrc trees? > > Now it's CVS, mirrored to git. What will replace CVS, will it be git, hg, > > or something else, and will it be in the base system, or will it have to be > > built or pkg_add'ed from pkgsrc? > > Is it a matter

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-27 Thread maya
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 11:26:38PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:30:48PM +1000, Paul Ripke wrote: > > I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github > > NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? > > m...@netbsd.org responded: > > > Yes, I

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-26 Thread Paul Ripke
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 05:19:48PM +, m...@netbsd.org wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:30:48PM +1000, Paul Ripke wrote: > > I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github > > NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? > > Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-26 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:30:48PM +1000, Paul Ripke wrote: > I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github > NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? m...@netbsd.org responded: > Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing the conversion from > cvs->??->git to

Re: github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-26 Thread maya
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:30:48PM +1000, Paul Ripke wrote: > I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github > NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? Yes, I believe joerg and spz are changing the conversion from cvs->??->git to hg->git, to match what will be done

github.com/NetBSD/src 5 days old?

2020-04-25 Thread Paul Ripke
I switched away from cvsup a while back, but I now see that github NetBSD/src mirror is now 5 days old. Known issue? Thanks, -- Paul Ripke "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Disputed: Often attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt. 1948.