Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Steven Penny
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Please don't assume that this means that we're ready to automatically rehash every decision he made over the last however-many years. I will add that the problem with cygcheck still exists, it has been an issue since at least May when I

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 08/07/2014 01:38 PM, Steven Penny wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Please don't assume that this means that we're ready to automatically rehash every decision he made over the last however-many years. I will add that the problem with cygcheck still exists, it

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Steven Penny
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: The above command works fine for me. Have you tried this on a different machine or though a different network provider? It is an intermittent problem. I will be having timeouts with Cygwin when other websites will be working perfectly

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 08/07/2014 05:04 PM, Steven Penny wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: The above command works fine for me. Have you tried this on a different machine or though a different network provider? It is an intermittent problem. I will be having timeouts with Cygwin

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Larry Hall (Cygwin)! The above command works fine for me. Have you tried this on a different machine or though a different network provider? It is an intermittent problem. I will be having timeouts with Cygwin when other websites will be working perfectly fine. This is the

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Steven Penny
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Andrey Repin wrote: There's little to see in Cygcheck, when you have flaky DNS servers, that unable to respond timely. As I have already said, when I am having problems with cygcheck other websites will be working perfectly fine. I have noticed a pattern of you

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Steven Penny! There's little to see in Cygcheck, when you have flaky DNS servers, that unable to respond timely. As I have already said, when I am having problems with cygcheck other websites will be working perfectly fine. Other websites probably requested by alot of other

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Steven Penny
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Andrey Repin wrote: Check the image in your mirror, please. I see your listening skills are on par with your posting skills. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Steven Penny
So, to respond to the DNS allegations, I have this script url='http://209.132.180.131/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi' qs='text=1arch=x86_64grep=aclocal' while : do time wget --spider --timeout 30 $url?$qs done Here are results of first 10 iterations real0m16.957s

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 20:30 -0500, Steven Penny wrote: I have noticed a pattern of you posting content with little or no value. Please going forward do not post any replys to my topics. This is out of line. This is a community forum, and you are in no position to dictate who says what here.

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Steven Penny
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: If you wish to continue participating in this forum, then cease these attacks immediately. Thank you for the reply, I will heed this going forward. However, do you have any input regarding the topic? -- Problem reports:

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-07 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 22:59 -0500, Steven Penny wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: If you wish to continue participating in this forum, then cease these attacks immediately. Thank you for the reply, I will heed this going forward. Thank you. However, do you

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-03 Thread Steven Penny
In June I presented the idea of a Package file lists archive and was met with this I understand how the package generation would have to work and don't see a major benefit to introducing a package list file given the amount of work and the fact that I would have to do the work. http

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-03 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 16:07 -0500, Steven Penny wrote: In June I presented the idea of a Package file lists archive and was met with this I understand how the package generation would have to work and don't see a major benefit to introducing a package list file given the amount of work

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-08-03 Thread Steven Penny
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: package_grep.cgi could probably use some optimization; PTC. No, the whole point of this thread is to kill package_grep.cgi in favor of a master file list, like is used with - Debian - Ubuntu - Arch Linux - MSYS2 - apt-get - pacman --

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:29:53PM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:17:11AM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: Of course because of Cygwin flawless website... If you want to experimentally figure out how many warnings you

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-18 Thread Steven Penny
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: Your idea of constructive is apparently flawed. This is an interesting comment, taking in that your response ignores the original question and focuses on off topic quibbling. I will pose your viewpoint and my question again And,

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-18 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 06/18/2014 02:53 AM, Steven Penny wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: Your idea of constructive is apparently flawed. This is an interesting comment, taking in that your response ignores the original question and focuses on off topic quibbling. I will pose

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-18 Thread Steven Penny
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: If this was the question you wanted to ask originally, this is all you needed to add to the thread. Hey Larry, thanks for your comments. However, did you have anything constructive to add, like an answer to the question? -- Problem

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:53:14AM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: Your idea of constructive is apparently flawed. This is an interesting comment, taking in that your response ignores the original question and focuses on off topic quibbling.

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:24:13AM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: If this was the question you wanted to ask originally, this is all you needed to add to the thread. Hey Larry, thanks for your comments. However, did you have anything

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 04:58:25PM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: And, frankly, I think it's a bad idea to keep a monolithic list of packages available for people to download anyway. I would counter that Debian and others who use apt-get

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:17:11AM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Warren Young wrote: Speaking of, is the source for package-grep.cgi available somewhere? I http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/htdocs/cgi-bin2?cvsroot=cygwin Of course because of Cygwin flawless

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-17 Thread Steven Penny
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: If you want to experimentally figure out how many warnings you get, please go right ahead and continue with this style of communication. Really, I can do without veiled threats. If you are going to ban me or whatever, go ahead and do

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-12 Thread PolarStorm
using apt-cyg, I've been a much more happy Cygwin user. Now, with your patch that is even better. I'm sure there are loads of Cygwin users who greatly appreciate your effort. BR, -- View this message in context: http://cygwin.1069669.n5.nabble.com/Package-file-lists-archive-tp108857p109216

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-12 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: And, frankly, I think it's a bad idea to keep a monolithic list of packages available for people to download anyway. I would counter that Debian and others who use apt-get already do this, Example

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-11 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Steven Penny wrote: Using Google Search API is in many cases faster than cygcheck -p. Code is here Adding to this, here is the sometimes frustrating experience of cygcheck -p $ time cygcheck -p bin/aclocal cygcheck: unable to contact cygwin.com site,

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-09 Thread Steven Penny
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: This would ease the burden of the cygwin.com site, as it is the only site with that information currently It is surviving just fine. In response to this apathy, I have found my own way. Using Google Search API is in many cases faster

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-09 Thread Warren Young
On 5/27/2014 16:11, Christopher Faylor wrote: This would ease the burden of the cygwin.com site, as it is the only site with that information currently It is surviving just fine. Speaking of, is the source for package-grep.cgi available somewhere? I could quarter the page weight, and

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-06-09 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Warren Young wrote: Speaking of, is the source for package-grep.cgi available somewhere? I http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/htdocs/cgi-bin2?cvsroot=cygwin Of course because of Cygwin flawless website, this is not indexed by Google and not even linked on

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-05-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:18:20PM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: And, frankly, I think it's a bad idea to keep a monolithic list of packages available for people to download anyway. Could you not just require each package includes a file

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-05-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 05:37:45PM -0500, Steven Penny wrote: The MSYS2 project keep an up to date archive with files lists for all packages http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/msys2/REPOS/MINGW/x86_64/mingw64.files.tar.gz This file is not very large considering $ gzip -l

Re: Package file lists archive

2014-05-26 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: And, frankly, I think it's a bad idea to keep a monolithic list of packages available for people to download anyway. Could you not just require each package includes a file list? This way you could get the information from any mirror.

Package file lists archive

2014-05-25 Thread Steven Penny
The MSYS2 project keep an up to date archive with files lists for all packages http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/msys2/REPOS/MINGW/x86_64/mingw64.files.tar.gz This file is not very large considering $ gzip -l mingw64.files.tar.gz compresseduncompressed ratio