Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-23 Thread Hans W. Horn
I hereby withdraw my voluntary offer as bash maintainer! H.

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-12 Thread Warren Young
David Dindorp wrote: Jokes aside, I can't respond to the fact that you don't believe a word I say with anything else than you obviously don't have a clue. Chris wasn't saying he didn't believe anything you say. Chris has infinitely more credibility when it comes to judgements of Cygwin

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 10 12:17, Hans W. Horn wrote: Corinna Igor, Urgh! Bold hint: ./configure --prefix=/usr I just (con-)figured that out myself. Thx anyways! Just as a side note, http://cygwin.com/setup.html#package_contents mentions all usual configure options for a Cygwin installation. Corinna --

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Hans Horn wrote: Folks, If you are still willing then you've got the job. Alright, I'm on - despite a rough start! Hans, if you plan to maintain a package, you really ought to subscribe to the cygwin-apps list. Packaging discussions should take place there. I'm sending

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 10 13:28, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Hans Horn wrote: Looks like bash2.x install in /usr/bin while bash3.x installs in /usr/local/bin. Is that ok? No, it isn't. Cygwin programs get installed in /usr/bin. If the

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 10 13:28, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Hans Horn wrote: Looks like bash2.x install in /usr/bin while bash3.x installs in /usr/local/bin. Is that ok? No, it isn't. Cygwin programs get installed in /usr/bin. If the upstream package doesn't go there by default,

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Hans W. Horn
Corinna Igor, Urgh! Bold hint: ./configure --prefix=/usr I just (con-)figured that out myself. Thx anyways! How do I go about Pierre's pid patch? You'll need to see exactly what it changes in the 2.05 sources, find and modify the corresponding places in the 3.0 sources, and then (the hardest

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 08:46:32PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 10 13:28, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Hans Horn wrote: Looks like bash2.x install in /usr/bin while bash3.x installs in /usr/local/bin. Is that ok? No, it isn't. Cygwin programs get installed in /usr/bin.

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Hans W. Horn
Thanks Brian, Brian Dessent wrote: Hans W. Horn wrote: This mysterious patch of Pierre: is it in that half-a-ton patch file that comes with the bash-2.05b-17 sources? If yes, hasn't anybody tried to get this patch back into bash mainstream? No, this is Pierre's patch:

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Brian Dessent
Hans W. Horn wrote: This helps a lot! By working my way thru 3way-comparison of 2.05unpatched vs 2.05patched vs 3.0patched, I saw that many (but not all) of Pierre's patches must have made it back into bash mainstream. For some sources, however (in particular in jobs.c and subst.c) the

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Hans Horn
Folks, If you are still willing then you've got the job. Alright, I'm on - despite a rough start! There is one potential problem in that we may need to adapt Pierre's patch to prevent problems with pid reuse to 3.0 if it is released. How do I go about Pierre's pid patch? The next step is

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Hans Horn wrote: Folks, If you are still willing then you've got the job. Alright, I'm on - despite a rough start! Hans, if you plan to maintain a package, you really ought to subscribe to the cygwin-apps list. Packaging discussions should take place there. I'm sending

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 10 13:28, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Hans Horn wrote: Looks like bash2.x install in /usr/bin while bash3.x installs in /usr/local/bin. Is that ok? No, it isn't. Cygwin programs get installed in /usr/bin. If the upstream package doesn't go there by default,

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 08:46:32PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 10 13:28, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Hans Horn wrote: Looks like bash2.x install in /usr/bin while bash3.x installs in /usr/local/bin. Is that ok? No, it isn't. Cygwin programs get installed in /usr/bin.

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-09 Thread David Dindorp
Dave Korn wrote: If you can tell me how to proceed from here, I'd be happy to throw in a bunch of manhours to try and find out what's wrong. http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PPAST Obviously, if I were able to produce a simple testcase, I would have. Duh ;-). There's nothing _obvious_ about

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 03:40:12AM +0200, David Dindorp wrote: Cygwin is as complex as a Linux kernel. *snort* Your lack of credibility is showing. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation:

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-09 Thread David Dindorp
I wrote: Cygwin is as complex as a Linux kernel. Christopher Faylor wrote: *snort* Your lack of credibility is showing. Your lifelong devotion to being hateful instead of constructive is showing? Jokes aside, I can't respond to the fact that you don't believe a word I say with anything else

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 7 22:20, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:10:14PM -0700, Hans Horn wrote: Nevermind! Sorry, folks - I really didn't mean to upset anybody! Bye then! No, no. Please. We are looking for a new bash maintainer. We haven't heard from the maintainer in a while and

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread David Dindorp
Brian Dessent wrote: Furthermore, threads in the past have expressed the fact that 2.05b has been very stable and both Ronald and others have agreed that any major changes in bash would have to be done very carefully so as not to cause instability. Uhm. No it's not.. Bash 2.05b is so

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 8 12:19, David Dindorp wrote: To be fair, this is probably more a Cygwin DLL problem than a bash problem, or perhaps a bash hasn't kept up with changes in Cygwin because the maintainer haven't had the time problem. It's running quite stable under 1.5.10, it sucks with 1.5.12 and

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread Brian Dessent
David Dindorp wrote: Uhm. No it's not.. Bash 2.05b is so unstable under Cygwin that it classifies as a volatile chemical. At least if you put it under a lot of pressure - a normal users everyday use it may cope fine with, which is probably how it's used by most people in here anyway. To

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread David Dindorp
Brian Dessent wrote: David Dindorp wrote: Uhm. No it's not.. Bash 2.05b is so unstable under Cygwin that it classifies as a volatile chemical. At least if you put it under a lot of pressure - a normal users everyday use it may cope fine with, which is probably how it's used by most people

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread David Dindorp
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 8 12:19, David Dindorp wrote: To be fair, this is probably more a Cygwin DLL problem than a bash problem, or perhaps a bash hasn't kept up with changes in Cygwin because the maintainer haven't had the time problem. It's running quite stable under 1.5.10, it

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 03:06:02PM +0200, David Dindorp wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 8 12:19, David Dindorp wrote: To be fair, this is probably more a Cygwin DLL problem than a bash problem, or perhaps a bash hasn't kept up with changes in Cygwin because the maintainer haven't had

RE: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message From: David Dindorp Sent: 08 April 2005 14:06 If you can tell me how to proceed from here, I'd be happy to throw in a bunch of manhours to try and find out what's wrong. http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PPAST I'm surprised, myself, I find bash very reliable.

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread David Dindorp
If you can tell me how to proceed from here, I'd be happy to throw in a bunch of manhours to try and find out what's wrong. If you are happy to throw a bunch of manhours to try and find out what's wrong, then the solution is obvious -- learn cygwin that well. Manhours. Not entire

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread David Dindorp
If you can tell me how to proceed from here, I'd be happy to throw in a bunch of manhours to try and find out what's wrong. http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PPAST Obviously, if I were able to produce a simple testcase, I would have. Duh ;-). -- Unsubscribe info:

RE: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message From: David Dindorp Sent: 08 April 2005 16:14 If you can tell me how to proceed from here, I'd be happy to throw in a bunch of manhours to try and find out what's wrong. http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PPAST Obviously, if I were able to produce a simple testcase, I

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-08 Thread Andrew Schulman
There is one potential problem in that we may need to adapt Pierre's patch to prevent problems with pid reuse to 3.0 if it is released. Besides that, looking at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-3.0- patches/, I see 16 patches. I hope all of those will be applied to a Cygwin bash 3.0

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-07 Thread Brian Dessent
repeatedly that he has been busy and without access to a windows machine, which is probably why there have been few bash updates. On the other hand, he has also said nothing to indicate that he does not wish to continue maintaining bash. Furthermore, threads in the past have expressed the fact

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-07 Thread Hans Horn
Oops - didn't see this one! Just posted offer as bash voluteer myself! Was looking for bash 3.0 in the archives. If Jonathan still wants to maintain bash 3.0, of course, I will withdraw my offer. H. Tim Prince wrote: At 06:35 AM 3/18/2005, Jonathan Arnold wrote: I don't know what to do

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-07 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Hans Horn wrote: Oops - didn't see this one! Just posted offer as bash voluteer myself! Was looking for bash 3.0 in the archives. If Jonathan still wants to maintain bash 3.0, of course, I will withdraw my offer. Yeah, sorry, I just haven't been able to get to it - crunch time here at work. If

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-07 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Jonathan Arnold wrote: Hans Horn wrote: Oops - didn't see this one! Just posted offer as bash voluteer myself! Was looking for bash 3.0 in the archives. If Jonathan still wants to maintain bash 3.0, of course, I will withdraw my offer. Yeah, sorry, I just haven't been able to get to it - crunch

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-07 Thread Brian Dessent
repeatedly that he has been busy and without access to a windows machine, which is probably why there have been few bash updates. On the other hand, he has also said nothing to indicate that he does not wish to continue maintaining bash. Furthermore, threads in the past have expressed the fact

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-07 Thread Hans Horn
does not wish to continue maintaining bash. Furthermore, threads in the past have expressed the fact that 2.05b has been very stable and both Ronald and others have agreed that any major changes in bash would have to be done very carefully so as not to cause instability. I have CC:d

Re: maintaining bash

2005-04-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:10:14PM -0700, Hans Horn wrote: Nevermind! Sorry, folks - I really didn't mean to upset anybody! Bye then! No, no. Please. We are looking for a new bash maintainer. We haven't heard from the maintainer in a while and private email to him bounces. That is what

maintaining bash

2005-03-18 Thread Jonathan Arnold
If no one has stepped forward, I'd be willing to try and maintain the bash package. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the whole process, and the Packages page confuses me, so you'll have to guide me along gently. Here's what I've done so far: * Download the bash-3.0 source * Built it

Re: maintaining bash

2005-03-18 Thread Tim Prince
At 06:35 AM 3/18/2005, Jonathan Arnold wrote: I don't know what to do with the patches that I find in the http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-3.0-patches/ folder. How do you apply patches for GNU source? info patch typically, patch -p1 file.c patchfile Tim Prince -- Unsubscribe info: