Re: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Rasjid Wilcox
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 5:58 am, Alexander Gottwald wrote: snip VNC is not the better solution. It grab parts of the picture _after_ they were drawn. X11 sends the drawing commands across network. There was always a VNC client for windows which allowed access to a unix session. But as this is far

Re: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: As a VNC user who runs Linux and home to control a Windows NT machine at work, and finds the performance less than satisfactory even with ADSL both ends, I would be very interested in the 'X client wrapper for Win apps' idea. I suspect the

Re: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread David Fraser
Rasjid Wilcox wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 5:58 am, Alexander Gottwald wrote: snip VNC is not the better solution. It grab parts of the picture _after_ they were drawn. X11 sends the drawing commands across network. There was always a VNC client for windows which allowed access to a unix

Re: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Franz Wolfhagen wrote: The link is http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/display/default.asp. Thanks. That one and some furter links into the MSDN are quite interesting bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723

RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Stuart Adamson
From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Didn't your mothers ever tell you guys that you are crazy? Yes ... and ;) Stuart

RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Stuart Adamson
One method is to provide a 'mirror driver' to intercept the all calls from GDI to the display driver (this should be the method used by Netmeeting). But that requires a device driver doesn't it? (i.e. code that runs in kernel mode). Hooking into user32.dll only requires code that runs in

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread David Fraser
Stuart Adamson wrote: As what we are wanting to do here isn't strictly a cygwin/Xfree86 thing could I suggest we start a new sourceforge project and mailing list for this? Of course - we need a name for that ... Stuart Yes, I've been thinking this and then we can include it back into

RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Stuart Adamson
I agree, we should hook user32.dll. I have some code that does the following: 1) Uses Windows Hooks (designed for Computer-Based Training etc) to get loaded into program as soon as the program creates a window, then calls 2) 2) Updates the address table to redirect certain functions

RE: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Stuart Adamson
gdi2X win2X xgdi I like win2x. (or maybe win4x) I'm happy to register the project and set it up... I'd say wait a few hours for people in the states to wake up and read the mass of email and then unless anyone comes up with better names, go and do it. Stuart

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Rasjid Wilcox
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:46 pm, Stuart Adamson wrote: gdi2X win2X xgdi I like win2x. (or maybe win4x) I'm happy to register the project and set it up... I'd say wait a few hours for people in the states to wake up and read the mass of email and then unless anyone comes up with

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Please don't use GDI in the name. I ask this because I don't want there to be confusion between the Cygwin/XFree86 NativeGDI engine and any foogdi project. Consider instead something like the following: XShell XExplorer Something more along those lines would help to differentiate your

RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Stuart Adamson
Then we could do enough to run notepad and solitaire... Don't know about Solitaire - the productivity might suddenly slow down a bit once that works ;) Stuart

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread David Fraser
Harold L Hunt II wrote: Please don't use GDI in the name. I ask this because I don't want there to be confusion between the Cygwin/XFree86 NativeGDI engine and any foogdi project. Consider instead something like the following: XShell XExplorer Something more along those lines would

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, David Fraser wrote: Other names: OpenWin[dows] (because it's open source replacement for windows gdi) XOpenWin[dows] OpenWindows is the X11 environment from SUN. Using this name might bring some trademark problems. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Jim Drash
Can we move this discussion to another mailing list? and Get back to the business of cygwin-xfree, here. TIA jim drash

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread David Fraser
Yes, will do as soon as the new project is set up. So it'll hopefully be only a few more emails. Jim Drash wrote: Can we move this discussion to another mailing list? and Get back to the business of cygwin-xfree, here. TIA jim drash

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread David Fraser
Alexander Gottwald wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, David Fraser wrote: Other names: OpenWin[dows] (because it's open source replacement for windows gdi) XOpenWin[dows] OpenWindows is the X11 environment from SUN. Using this name might bring some trademark problems. bye ago

XOpenWin

2002-09-20 Thread David Fraser
Submitted an application to source forge to create project XOpenWin. Will post again when it is set up (takes a while for them to process) David

Re: XOpenWin

2002-09-20 Thread David Fraser
Yes, but then I posted some other alternatives and suggested this name and nobody seemed to mind. I could always reapply for the project under a different name... I just thought a huge discussion about the name would take time... but if people generally want Win2X we can do that I guess.

RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?

2002-09-20 Thread Nicholas Wourms
--- Stuart Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One method is to provide a 'mirror driver' to intercept the all calls from GDI to the display driver (this should be the method used by Netmeeting). But that requires a device driver doesn't it? (i.e. code that runs in kernel mode).

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Nicholas Wourms
--- Stuart Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As what we are wanting to do here isn't strictly a cygwin/Xfree86 thing could I suggest we start a new sourceforge project and mailing list for this? A new SF project yes, but this is very much a Cygwin/XFree related issue. It's easier to keep up

RE: XOpenWin

2002-09-20 Thread Jean-Claude Gervais
The only reason I have for Win2X is that it takes Windows output and sends it to X... Maybe we could call it. OpenWin2X Either way. XopenWin is also nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Fraser Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Nicholas Wourms
--- Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't use GDI in the name. I ask this because I don't want there to be confusion between the Cygwin/XFree86 NativeGDI engine and any foogdi project. Consider instead something like the following: XShell XExplorer Something more

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Harold L Hunt II
I say move the discussion elsewhere. I have put up with it for now, but it really needs to go so we can get back on topic here. Of course, with the level of continuous contributions flowing from other members of the Cygwin/XFree86 project, I can't hold out much hope for this new project.

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Any such development would need to occur in a branch that could eventually be merged back in if it proves stable, useful, well modularized, and actively maintained. If not, I'll just forget that anyone ever talked about doing it in the first place. That's why it needs to move off list, even

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Nicholas Wourms
--- Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any such development would need to occur in a branch that could eventually be merged back in if it proves stable, useful, well modularized, and actively maintained. If not, I'll just forget that anyone ever talked about doing it in the first

Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)

2002-09-20 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Yes, that is what I want. The primary aim of Cygwin/XFree86 is to provide an open source X Server for Microsoft Windows. I intend to pursue that goal. If others are interested in pursuing a highly-experiemental Windows shell replacement, then they are more than welcome to do so, but not

Re: Rootless X windows

2002-09-20 Thread David R. Fischer
Sorry about wrong mailing list Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 06:00:53PM -0700, David R. Fischer wrote: Sorry but could not find in the archives. Is there a way to set up a rootless X-windows session? Redirecting to the correct mailing list. cgf --

Cannot execute .exe files from home directory

2002-09-20 Thread gareth m jones
I ahve dowloaded cygwin and I wrote the quick code for hello world and compiled it under gcc. It compiled and I tried to execute the a.exe file and the error message said it could not find the a.exe. It will work if I copy the file into the bin directory. Does anyone know how I can set my path to