Re: How do I start WM?

2010-03-01 Thread Anonymous bin ich
KDE, since version 4, is being developed for windows independently of cygwin. Look here: http://windows.kde.org/ On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Reid Thompson reid.thomp...@ateb.com wrote: On 2/26/2010 6:40 PM, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: Hi;   Now, if it isn't asking too much, I'd like to use

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-03-01 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
I'm aware of this, but thank you. They are not able to port konsole :-( On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 02:17, Anonymous bin ich ichbina...@gmail.com wrote: KDE, since version 4, is being developed for windows independently of cygwin. Look here: http://windows.kde.org/ On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:47

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-26 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi; On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 16:44, Reid Thompson reid.thomp...@ateb.com wrote: Try this: Copy the shortcut as mentioned earlier in the email trail. set the Target to be:  C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startx -- /usr/bin/Xwin.exe Note the double quotes around the

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-26 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi; Now, if it isn't asking too much, I'd like to use KDE as my Window Manager and I'd like some KDE-based utilities, like konsole and karm (? the task/time manager). I don't see a great deal of visible difference between twm and openbox, but I'll look on openbox.org and find more details.

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-26 Thread Reid Thompson
On 2/26/2010 6:40 PM, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: Hi; Now, if it isn't asking too much, I'd like to use KDE as my Window Manager and I'd like some KDE-based utilities, like konsole and karm (? the task/time manager). I don't see a great deal of visible difference between twm and openbox, but

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Holger Krull
Am 25.02.2010 03:54, schrieb Kenneth Wolcott: If I don't set the DISPLAY environment variable then it complains about it not being set. If I do set the DISPLAY environment variable then it complains about not being able to use it. $ openbox-session which: no hsetroot in [PATH content

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 2010-02-25 04:25, Holger Krull wrote: I can confirm problems with openbox. It does not start everytime i try on my computer and i get the same behavior that you described, a short view of the black background. Openbox is just a window manager. If that's all you have in ~/.xinitrc, you

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Holger Krull
Am 25.02.2010 12:18, schrieb Yaakov (Cygwin/X): On 2010-02-25 04:25, Holger Krull wrote: I can confirm problems with openbox. It does not start everytime i try on my computer and i get the same behavior that you described, a short view of the black background. Openbox is just a window

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Ess
From: Holger Krull holger dot krull at gmx dot de I know that. Sorry for being to short with the description. The X-Server dies when openbox starts, and it shouldn't do that, even without a window manager. But i see this only every tenth attempt to start openbox, while the original poster seems

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 2010-02-25 12:56, Joseph Ess wrote: Really? I looked. Your definition of clear and mine must be different. The xinit(1) man page suggests an ~/xinitrc like so: xrdb -load $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid gray xclock -g 50x50-0+0 -bw 0 xload -g 50x50-50+0 -bw 0 xterm -g 80x24+0+0 xterm -g

RE: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Ess
From: Mike Ayers mike_ayers at tvworks dot com Notice the first line. This is a script. When it ends, startx ends, as does your X session. Notice the last line. The X session now lasts as long as the window manager. Note the lack of redirects on the window manager, and the use of a

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 2010-02-25 13:47, Joseph Ess wrote: I got it. Thank you. I can start up Xwindows with OpenBox from a Windows shortcut now. I still don't have a workspace pager. Is the problem me or is it OpenBox? Openbox is just a WM. It does not provide a panel, pager, or other desktop components.

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Ess
From: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) yselkowitz at users dot sourceforge dot net Note that the last line does NOT have a ''. Quoting from xinit(1): _Now_ it's clear. Thanks. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports:

RE: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Ayers
From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree- ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:58 AM On 23/02/2010 16:18, Christopher Faylor wrote: From my reading of the documentation, it sounds like you'd get this behavior by adding server

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 2010-02-25 10:16, Joseph Ess wrote: I can reproduce your finding. Putting just openbox in my ~/xinitrc does not work. Of course not; the xinit(1) man page explains that clearly. Yaakov Cygwin/X -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports:

RE: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Ayers
From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree- ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Ess Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:16 AM I can reproduce your finding. Putting just openbox in my ~/xinitrc does not work. Putting the exec openbox-session /tmp/openbox.log 21 line in

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Ess
From: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) yselkowitz at users dot sourceforge dot net On 2010-02-25 10:16, Joseph Ess wrote: I can reproduce your finding. Putting just openbox in my ~/xinitrc does not work. Of course not; the xinit(1) man page explains that clearly. Really? I looked. Your definition of clear

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Reid Thompson
On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 10:56 -0800, Joseph Ess wrote: From: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) yselkowitz at users dot sourceforge dot net On 2010-02-25 10:16, Joseph Ess wrote: I can reproduce your finding. Putting just openbox in my ~/xinitrc does not work. Of course not; the xinit(1) man page explains

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Ess
From: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) yselkowitz at users dot sourceforge dot net Openbox is just a WM. It does not provide a panel, pager, or other desktop components. Maybe I'm thinking of BlackBox, since it has a toolbar. Thanks, Joe -- Unsubscribe info:

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Reid Thompson
On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 12:32 -0800, Joseph Ess wrote: From: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) yselkowitz at users dot sourceforge dot net Openbox is just a WM. It does not provide a panel, pager, or other desktop components. Maybe I'm thinking of BlackBox, since it has a toolbar. Thanks, Joe these

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Joseph Ess
- Original Message From: Jon TURNEY jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: joseph_...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 2:42:47 PM Subject: Re: How do I start WM? Your question was How do I start XWindows in full screen mode with OpenBox window manager

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Holger Krull
Am 23.02.2010 15:11, schrieb Joseph Ess: How do I start XWindows in full screen mode with OpenBox window manager? It used to be that I'd just put the command for the window manager at the end of startxwin.bat. Now that file's gone away. I can't use startxwin.exe as it is multi-window only. I

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi; To achive this, create a icon that points to C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startx Edit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and change twm to openbox That changes the behavior for all users. I tried this last advice. I get a quick flash and then gone (Windoze XP

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Holger Krull
Am 24.02.2010 21:21, schrieb Kenneth Wolcott: Hi; To achive this, create a icon that points to C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startx Edit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and change twm to openbox That changes the behavior for all users. I tried this last advice. I get

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi Holger; 1. Do you have a .xinitrc in your home directory? (try ls -la ) If so, delete it. I do not have a ~/.xinitrc in either /home/kwolcott 2. Will it start if you manually enter startx in a cygwin shell? I was able to start twm using startx without any problem, but I would like

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Holger Krull
Am 24.02.2010 23:56, schrieb Kenneth Wolcott: Hi Holger; 1. Do you have a .xinitrc in your home directory? (try ls -la ) If so, delete it. I do not have a ~/.xinitrc in either /home/kwolcott 2. Will it start if you manually enter startx in a cygwin shell? I was able to start twm

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Reid Thompson
Try this: Copy the shortcut as mentioned earlier in the email trail. set the Target to be: C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startx -- /usr/bin/Xwin.exe Note the double quotes around the last argument. Without them, Xwin.exe doesn't start on my box. startx also would

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi Holger; In your first mail you said you wanted to start openbox as a window manager, now you talk about kde. That are two different things. What happens if you start openbox in a bash shell without starting a X-Server first? If I don't set the DISPLAY environment variable then it

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-24 Thread Reid Thompson
On 2/24/2010 9:54 PM, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: Apparently I'm missing some components... $ openbox-session which: no hsetroot in [PATH content deleted] which: no esetroot in [PATH content deleted] xsetroot: unable to open display 'KWOLCOTT-T61:0.0' which: no gnome-settings-daemon in [PATH

How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Joseph Ess
How do I start XWindows in full screen mode with OpenBox window manager? It used to be that I'd just put the command for the window manager at the end of startxwin.bat. Now that file's gone away. I can't use startxwin.exe as it is multi-window only. I can run XWin.exe, but the only command

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 23/02/2010 14:11, Joseph Ess wrote: How do I start XWindows in full screen mode with OpenBox window manager? It used to be that I'd just put the command for the window manager at the end of startxwin.bat. Now that file's gone away. I can't use startxwin.exe as it is multi-window only. I can

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Joseph Ess
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: joseph_...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 9:36:55 AM Subject: Re: How do I start WM? On 23/02/2010 14:11, Joseph Ess wrote: How do I start XWindows in full screen mode with OpenBox window manager? It used to be that I'd just put the command

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 23/02/2010 15:11, Joseph Ess wrote: Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 9:36:55 AM Subject: Re: How do I start WM? On 23/02/2010 14:11, Joseph Ess wrote: How do I start XWindows in full screen mode with OpenBox window manager? It used to be that I'd just put the command for the window manager

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 07:11:09AM -0800, Joseph Ess wrote: To: XXX Cc: XXX Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 9:36:55 AM Subject: Re: How do I start WM? There is no need to duplicate this. It's all in the header. On 23/02/2010 14:11, Joseph Ess wrote: How do I start XWindows in full screen

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Joseph Ess
- Original Message From: Jon TURNEY jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: joseph_...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 11:19:40 AM Subject: Re: How do I start WM? On 23/02/2010 15:11, Joseph Ess wrote: Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 9:36:55 AM

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 23/02/2010 18:29, Joseph Ess wrote: Perhaps you should follow my suggestion and try it. I double-clicked on c:\cygwin\bin\startx. It opens a dialog titled Open With that instructs one to Choose the program you want to use to open this file. Does

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Joseph Ess
- Original Message From: Jon TURNEY jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: joseph_...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 1:49:56 PM Subject: Re: How do I start WM? On 23/02/2010 18:29, Joseph Ess wrote: Perhaps you should follow my suggestion and try

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:04:20AM -0800, Joseph Ess wrote: - Original Message From: Jon TURNEY jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: joseph_...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 1:49:56 PM Subject: Re: How do I start WM? On 23/02/2010 18:29, Joseph

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 23/02/2010 19:04, Joseph Ess wrote: On 23/02/2010 18:29, Joseph Ess wrote: Perhaps you should follow my suggestion and try it. I double-clicked on c:\cygwin\bin\startx. It opens a dialog titled Open With that instructs one to Choose the program you want to use to open this file. Does

Re: How do I start WM?

2010-02-23 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 23/02/2010 16:18, Christopher Faylor wrote: On 23/02/2010 14:11, Joseph Ess wrote: How do I start XWindows in full screen mode with OpenBox window manager? It used to be that I'd just put the command for the window manager at the end of startxwin.bat. Now that file's gone away. I can't use