Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote:

Christopher Faylor wrote:

And (before someone asks) wrt to the first scribus thread started by 
René, I only continued that discussion here since her problem has to do 
with qt3 itself, which I maintain *within* the distro.  It now appears 
that she may have found a regression in a recent snapshot due to that 
discussion too.


Isn't this the reason why isolated lists will fail and confuse users?

My problem also looks like being qt related and not scribus related as 
qtconfig shows the same behaviour.


Erich

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)

Christopher Faylor wrote:

Sorry but it isn't up to Yaakov to decide if things that aren't part of
the cygwin distribution are discussed here.  The fact that we advertise
other people's cygwin efforts doesn't mean that we are automatically
opening up the cygwin mailing list to discuss their efforts.


I agree, and I never said that they should be sent here.

Cygwin Ports is my (very large) private repository of packages which I 
have built, including the packages that I contribute to the distro. 
Those packages which aren't (yet) in the distro are usually due to any 
of the following reasons:


1) unsufficiently tested (like, right now, GNOME 2.12 is already there)
2) "queued up" due to dependencies not yet in the distro
3) not of general interest
4) lack of time

When I start seeing interest on these lists for something that I have on 
Cygwin Ports, that usually pushes me to ITP it; perl-Tk is a recent 
example.  I may do the same for scribus, once the issues with René are 
worked out.


And (before someone asks) wrt to the first scribus thread started by 
René, I only continued that discussion here since her problem has to do 
with qt3 itself, which I maintain *within* the distro.  It now appears 
that she may have found a regression in a recent snapshot due to that 
discussion too.


In any case, I'll try to clarify on my website about questions on my 
packages, etc.



Yaakov

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:46:32PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 07:39:25AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 03:13:24PM -0600, Ren? Berber wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
[snip]

>>>Sorry but it isn't up to Yaakov to decide if things that aren't part of
>>>the cygwin distribution are discussed here.  The fact that we advertise
>>>other people's cygwin efforts doesn't mean that we are automatically
>>>opening up the cygwin mailing list to discuss their efforts.
>>>
>>As the number of users is growing may I suggest a mailing list run by 
>>cygwin dealing with applications which are contributed?
>
>If someone wants to make something generally available it is fairly easy
>to get it included into the cygwin distribution itself.  I don't see any
>reason to encourage alternate ways of distributing software when we have
>an acceptable way to distribute it already.
>
>That said, however, there isn't anything stopping somebody from creating
>a mailing list and advertising it on the cygwin web site.

Btw, while I don't mind an occasional foray into discussing other
packages here, this "cygjpeg-62.dll" problem is exactly the kind of
discussion that I do not want to see proliferate.

We go to some effort trying to get the packages in the cygwin
distribution right, with proper dependencies and proper packaging.
However, we have no power to fix these kinds of problems in other
product distributions and I don't want to see the cygwin lists getting
bogged down with attempts to fix problems over which we have no control.

cgf

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 07:39:25AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 03:13:24PM -0600, Ren? Berber wrote:
>>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>Sorry but it isn't up to Yaakov to decide if things that aren't part of
>>the cygwin distribution are discussed here.  The fact that we advertise
>>other people's cygwin efforts doesn't mean that we are automatically
>>opening up the cygwin mailing list to discuss their efforts.
>>
>As the number of users is growing may I suggest a mailing list run by 
>cygwin dealing with applications which are contributed?

If someone wants to make something generally available it is fairly easy
to get it included into the cygwin distribution itself.  I don't see any
reason to encourage alternate ways of distributing software when we have
an acceptable way to distribute it already.

That said, however, there isn't anything stopping somebody from creating
a mailing list and advertising it on the cygwin web site.

cgf

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 03:13:24PM -0600, Ren? Berber wrote:


Christopher Faylor wrote:
[snip]


Sorry but it isn't up to Yaakov to decide if things that aren't part of
the cygwin distribution are discussed here.  The fact that we advertise
other people's cygwin efforts doesn't mean that we are automatically
opening up the cygwin mailing list to discuss their efforts.

As the number of users is growing may I suggest a mailing list run by 
cygwin dealing with applications which are contributed?


The knowledge users have gets spreads all around different lists and it 
becomes very hard to find a solution in one list if the problem is 
caused by some 'minor' change in a program dealed with at some other list.


It makes it also easier for users just to track a single list compared 
to many especially if the new lists are not even known to the avarage user.


Erich

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread René Berber
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Christopher Faylor wrote:
[snip]
> Sorry but it isn't up to Yaakov to decide if things that aren't part of
> the cygwin distribution are discussed here.  The fact that we advertise
> other people's cygwin efforts doesn't mean that we are automatically
> opening up the cygwin mailing list to discuss their efforts.

OK, understood.
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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

René Berber wrote:


Christopher Faylor wrote:
[snip]

- From Cygwin/X's main page you can also find the mailing list at CygGnome
project, which also looks appropiate:

  http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=67909


I will try it there.


BTW the OP problem was probably the result of not using setup.exe to install
Scribus, the instruction in cygwinports.dotsrc.org should be followed.

I did use the setup.exe which is the first file to be downloaded for 
CygWin. I also think that I followed their instructions.


I did it twice. First upgrding an existing installation and then, after 
failing, I installed CygWin from scratch again.


Erich

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 03:13:24PM -0600, Ren? Berber wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>[snip]
>>Since you seem to know something about scribus maybe you could point
>>out where people should be going to get help with it since it isn't an
>>official cygwin package.
>
>The "Cygwin Ports project" site is listed on the main
>http://cygwin.com/ page, is the first item on the News.
>
>The Cygwin Ports repository:
>
>http://cygwinports.dotsrc.org/
>
>I think Yaakov Selkowitz, which seems to be in charge of this, should
>say if questions can be sent to the Cygwin/X list or...

Sorry but it isn't up to Yaakov to decide if things that aren't part of
the cygwin distribution are discussed here.  The fact that we advertise
other people's cygwin efforts doesn't mean that we are automatically
opening up the cygwin mailing list to discuss their efforts.

cgf

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-10 Thread René Berber
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Christopher Faylor wrote:
[snip]
> Since you seem to know something about scribus maybe you could point out
> where people should be going to get help with it since it isn't an
> official cygwin package.

The "Cygwin Ports project" site is listed on the main http://cygwin.com/ page,
is the first item on the News.

The Cygwin Ports repository:

  http://cygwinports.dotsrc.org/

I think Yaakov Selkowitz, which seems to be in charge of this, should say if
questions can be sent to the Cygwin/X list or...

- From Cygwin/X's main page you can also find the mailing list at CygGnome
project, which also looks appropiate:

  http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=67909

BTW the OP problem was probably the result of not using setup.exe to install
Scribus, the instruction in cygwinports.dotsrc.org should be followed.

HTH
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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

René Berber wrote:


Erich Dollansky wrote:

Have you tested any other X Windows application?


I just closed Gimp before writing this. I use X since a long time 
without any problems like this.



~/.qt is empty, no problem there, you can set some options running
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/qtconfig.exe but it's not necessary.


It is the same story with qtconfig. It ends in an endless loop.


In /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/scribus-1.2.3.README there is a list of requirements,


I will verify this.

I could imagine that this problem is something really minor but it is 
has to be found first.


Thanks for your help.

Erich

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:45:12PM -0600, Ren? Berber wrote:
>Erich Dollansky wrote:
>[snip]
>>The new problem is now that Scribus consumes all of the CPU time and
>>does not show up at all.
>
>Have you tested any other X Windows application?
>
>>I also noticed the .qt directory in the home directory of the user is
>>empty.  Shouldn't there be some kind of settings stored?
>
>~/.qt is empty, no problem there, you can set some options running
>/usr/lib/qt3/bin/qtconfig.exe but it's not necessary.
>
>>Do I have to run first some kind of desktop to get Scribus running?
>
>No, just start the X server.  But if you don't start the X server the
>application just ends printing that it couldn't find the display, so
>that is not the problem you describe.
>
>In /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/scribus-1.2.3.README there is a list of
>requirements, usually setup.exe just downloads the requirements if they
>are not already installed but perhaps you have some old version of some
>of those, better check manually (I mean using setup.exe or cygcheck to
>see what version you have installed).

Since you seem to know something about scribus maybe you could point out
where people should be going to get help with it since it isn't an
official cygwin package.

cgf

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread René Berber
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Erich Dollansky wrote:
[snip]
> The new problem is now that Scribus consumes all of the CPU time and
> does not show up at all.

Have you tested any other X Windows application?

> I also noticed the .qt directory in the home directory of the user is
> empty. Shouldn't there be some kind of settings stored?

~/.qt is empty, no problem there, you can set some options running
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/qtconfig.exe but it's not necessary.

> Do I have to run first some kind of desktop to get Scribus running?

No, just start the X server.  But if you don't start the X server the
application just ends printing that it couldn't find the display, so that is not
the problem you describe.

In /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/scribus-1.2.3.README there is a list of requirements,
usually setup.exe just downloads the requirements if they are not already
installed but perhaps you have some old version of some of those, better check
manually (I mean using setup.exe or cygcheck to see what version you have
installed).

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:13:20AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:

The new problem is now that Scribus consumes all of the CPU time and 
does not show up at all.


I also noticed the .qt directory in the home directory of the user is 
empty. Shouldn't there be some kind of settings stored?


Do I have to run first some kind of desktop to get Scribus running?



Sorry but we don't support scribus in this mailing list.  You downloaded
the package from some external site.  You'd probably be better off asking
them for help.

I have found this address on this list assuming this is also the central 
mailing list for all X applications running on cygwin.


Aksing there is not possible as they only provide the packages with no 
signs of support. This gave me the impression that they act as mirror 
with some beta quality packages in addition to the rest of cygwin.


I will try myself and give up in case off no success.

Erich

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:13:20AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>The new problem is now that Scribus consumes all of the CPU time and 
>does not show up at all.
>
>I also noticed the .qt directory in the home directory of the user is 
>empty. Shouldn't there be some kind of settings stored?
>
>Do I have to run first some kind of desktop to get Scribus running?

Sorry but we don't support scribus in this mailing list.  You downloaded
the package from some external site.  You'd probably be better off asking
them for help.

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

thanks for your help.

I found out that the package I needed war not available at the original 
site.


Christopher Faylor wrote:



after installing Scribus from ftp://sunsite.dk/projects/cygwinports, I
get the error message that cygjpeg-62.dll is missing.


If you visit http://cygwin.com/packages/, you can find the package that
contains the missing file.  Then you can use setup.exe to install it.


I used then ftp://ftp.sunet.se to get the missing file.

The new problem is now that Scribus consumes all of the CPU time and 
does not show up at all.


I also noticed the .qt directory in the home directory of the user is 
empty. Shouldn't there be some kind of settings stored?


Do I have to run first some kind of desktop to get Scribus running?

Erich

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Re: scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:45:47PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>after installing Scribus from ftp://sunsite.dk/projects/cygwinports, I
>get the error message that cygjpeg-62.dll is missing.
>
>I tried first an upgrade of my old installation an later did a fresh
>one.  I got in both cases the same error message.
>
>Is there a solution to this?
>
>How can I help to locate the error?

If you visit http://cygwin.com/packages/, you can find the package that
contains the missing file.  Then you can use setup.exe to install it.

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scribus: cygjpeg-62.dll not found

2005-12-09 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

after installing Scribus from ftp://sunsite.dk/projects/cygwinports, I 
get the error message that cygjpeg-62.dll is missing.


I tried first an upgrade of my old installation an later did a fresh 
one. I got in both cases the same error message.


Is there a solution to this?

How can I help to locate the error?

Erich

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