RE: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera wrote on Monday, December 03, 2007 11:43 PM:: Just to complete this issue, I had to delete the account and recreate it. The reason why was that I previously had an SPARC sunworkstion with Gentoo on it, and I rsync-ed all of the files and directories from that server. I was running gnome on that server also, but somehow the previous settings were getting picked up by the new gnome, which was a newer version and it was kicking me out. After creating the new user with the same name I am able to login and do my work. thanks, josé I'm glad you've got it working, but just for the benefit of anyone picking up on this thread via the archives, unless you really *want* to run a Linux desktop in XWin, the advice to use XDMCP is wrong (or at least, it's not the best advice). The recommended way to run client applications is documented in the XWin user guide: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html Using ssh is secure, reliable and easy both on the network and the remote box. In contrast, XDMCP is woefully insecure, overkill for running individual applications, and inefficient in terms of network resources and the remote host's resources - all window manager operations are transmitted over the network in addition to anything going on in the client area of the windows. If in doubt, watch the spike in network activity when you drag a window under XDMCP. Compare this with the same action using ssh tunnelling. At the same time, you can also watch the spike in CPU activity on the remote box. If you are running Gnome or KDE on the Linux box, you are running a fairly resource heavy application. There have been efforts lately to reduce their footprint, but try getting 100 users connecting to your Linux box, each using XDMCP and you'll soon notice the difference. Using XDMCP to run display managers also goes against the spirit of X, which is to have a single, local display and window-manager/desktop on which you can run clients on many different hosts. XDMCP was developed to allow using X on the graphical equivalent of dumb-terminals. Another problem with using XDMCP is that the remote X clients are, as far as Windows is concerned, just one application - XWin. You cannot use alt-tab to cycle through your Windows and your Linux clients at the same time. If you connect to multiple remote hosts, each using XDMCP, things can quickly become confusing. Sorry if that all sounded a bit preachy - it wasn't meant to. I only want people to make informed decisions, not make the decisions for them. Phil -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
In the third chapter of Phil Betts, verse 37-53, it says, jose isaias cabrera wrote on Monday, December 03, 2007 11:43 PM:: Just to complete this issue, I had to delete the account and recreate it. The reason why was that I previously had an SPARC sunworkstion with Gentoo on it, and I rsync-ed all of the files and directories from that server. I was running gnome on that server also, but somehow the previous settings were getting picked up by the new gnome, which was a newer version and it was kicking me out. After creating the new user with the same name I am able to login and do my work. thanks, josé I'm glad you've got it working, but just for the benefit of anyone picking up on this thread via the archives, unless you really *want* to run a Linux desktop in XWin, the advice to use XDMCP is wrong (or at least, it's not the best advice). The recommended way to run client applications is documented in the XWin user guide: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html Using ssh is secure, reliable and easy both on the network and the remote box. In contrast, XDMCP is woefully insecure, overkill for running individual applications, and inefficient in terms of network resources and the remote host's resources - all window manager operations are transmitted over the network in addition to anything going on in the client area of the windows. If in doubt, watch the spike in network activity when you drag a window under XDMCP. Compare this with the same action using ssh tunnelling. At the same time, you can also watch the spike in CPU activity on the remote box. If you are running Gnome or KDE on the Linux box, you are running a fairly resource heavy application. There have been efforts lately to reduce their footprint, but try getting 100 users connecting to your Linux box, each using XDMCP and you'll soon notice the difference. Using XDMCP to run display managers also goes against the spirit of X, which is to have a single, local display and window-manager/desktop on which you can run clients on many different hosts. XDMCP was developed to allow using X on the graphical equivalent of dumb-terminals. Another problem with using XDMCP is that the remote X clients are, as far as Windows is concerned, just one application - XWin. You cannot use alt-tab to cycle through your Windows and your Linux clients at the same time. If you connect to multiple remote hosts, each using XDMCP, things can quickly become confusing. Sorry if that all sounded a bit preachy - it wasn't meant to. I only want people to make informed decisions, not make the decisions for them. Preach away, my brother. :-) I am just kidding, of course. This is great information and many folks, like myself, are looking for info like this one. Thanks. I did not know much of these. On my case, I am the one of two people on that machine and sometimes, I go to different buildings and I need to connect from there. And, since I enjoy graphical interfaces than just the ssh xterm, I wanted to do this. :-) Thanks for the sermon. :-) josé -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Just to complete this issue, I had to delete the account and recreate it. The reason why was that I previously had an SPARC sunworkstion with Gentoo on it, and I rsync-ed all of the files and directories from that server. I was running gnome on that server also, but somehow the previous settings were getting picked up by the new gnome, which was a newer version and it was kicking me out. After creating the new user with the same name I am able to login and do my work. thanks, josé - Original Message - From: Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server Hi, jose isaias cabrera wrote: Not to leave you hanging, the problem was the xdmcp was not enabled. But there is another problem, which has nothing to do with cygwin. Somehow, my userID has something weird. Other co-workers are connecting fine, but my user ID is not working from any machine. They can login from my cygwin setup with their logonID without any problem, but my userID just does not work. From my setup and their setup. have you checked to what DISPLAY is set for your user ID on the Linux box? If it is set to local host, I expect what you are getting. Erich -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Hmmm... I will check that out. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server Hi, jose isaias cabrera wrote: Not to leave you hanging, the problem was the xdmcp was not enabled. But there is another problem, which has nothing to do with cygwin. Somehow, my userID has something weird. Other co-workers are connecting fine, but my user ID is not working from any machine. They can login from my cygwin setup with their logonID without any problem, but my userID just does not work. From my setup and their setup. have you checked to what DISPLAY is set for your user ID on the Linux box? If it is set to local host, I expect what you are getting. Erich -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Hi, jose isaias cabrera wrote: Not to leave you hanging, the problem was the xdmcp was not enabled. But there is another problem, which has nothing to do with cygwin. Somehow, my userID has something weird. Other co-workers are connecting fine, but my user ID is not working from any machine. They can login from my cygwin setup with their logonID without any problem, but my userID just does not work. From my setup and their setup. have you checked to what DISPLAY is set for your user ID on the Linux box? If it is set to local host, I expect what you are getting. Erich -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera schrieb: jose isaias cabrera schrieb: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. What you get if you try to connect with XDMCP (that's the protocol you are using if you chose -query) is completely depending on the settings of the gentoo Server. Usually that would be a login window. If you don't get anything, i assume xdmcp is not enabled on the gentoo box. Check if a process is listening to udp port 177 (netstat -unlp |grep 177). So, here is what I get, d-tuxedo 10:14:06- su Password: d-tuxedo jicman # netstat -unlp |grep 177 d-tuxedo jicman # so, I guess so, maybe XDMCP is not enabled. But I am able to get into gnome when I am in front of the machine... Yes, looks like xdmcp is not enabled. If you sitting at the machine you don't need xdmcp, only if you want to connect via the network. Enable xdmcp or use ssh tunneling. I recommend the first. ssh is enabled, though. That's how I connect to it from windows. I use putty or cygwin. let me enable xdmcp. I will let you know how it goes. Ok, so I enabled xdmcp and now I have a beautiful gnome signon screen. But, after login on, the screen disappears and the gnome signon screens appears again. Here is the output of the cygwin command line: jicman 12:12:58- XWin -clipboard -query d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -clipboard -query d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information winPrefsLoadPreferences: /home/us319318/.XWinrc LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) (--) Using preset keyboard for English (USA) (409), type 4 Rules = xorg Model = pc105 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options = (null) (--) 5 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 697 486 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winProcQueryTree - winInitClipboard returned. winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard client already launched, returning. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winClipboardIOErrorHandler! winClipboardProc - setjmp returned for IO Error Handler. FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information winPrefsLoadPreferences: /home/us319318/.XWinrc LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera schrieb: jose isaias cabrera schrieb: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. What you get if you try to connect with XDMCP (that's the protocol you are using if you chose -query) is completely depending on the settings of the gentoo Server. Usually that would be a login window. If you don't get anything, i assume xdmcp is not enabled on the gentoo box. Check if a process is listening to udp port 177 (netstat -unlp |grep 177). So, here is what I get, d-tuxedo 10:14:06- su Password: d-tuxedo jicman # netstat -unlp |grep 177 d-tuxedo jicman # so, I guess so, maybe XDMCP is not enabled. But I am able to get into gnome when I am in front of the machine... Yes, looks like xdmcp is not enabled. If you sitting at the machine you don't need xdmcp, only if you want to connect via the network. Enable xdmcp or use ssh tunneling. I recommend the first. ssh is enabled, though. That's how I connect to it from windows. I use putty or cygwin. let me enable xdmcp. I will let you know how it goes. thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera schrieb: jose isaias cabrera schrieb: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. What you get if you try to connect with XDMCP (that's the protocol you are using if you chose -query) is completely depending on the settings of the gentoo Server. Usually that would be a login window. If you don't get anything, i assume xdmcp is not enabled on the gentoo box. Check if a process is listening to udp port 177 (netstat -unlp |grep 177). So, here is what I get, d-tuxedo 10:14:06- su Password: d-tuxedo jicman # netstat -unlp |grep 177 d-tuxedo jicman # so, I guess so, maybe XDMCP is not enabled. But I am able to get into gnome when I am in front of the machine... Yes, looks like xdmcp is not enabled. If you sitting at the machine you don't need xdmcp, only if you want to connect via the network. Enable xdmcp or use ssh tunneling. I recommend the first. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera schrieb: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. What you get if you try to connect with XDMCP (that's the protocol you are using if you chose -query) is completely depending on the settings of the gentoo Server. Usually that would be a login window. If you don't get anything, i assume xdmcp is not enabled on the gentoo box. Check if a process is listening to udp port 177 (netstat -unlp |grep 177). So, here is what I get, d-tuxedo 10:14:06- su Password: d-tuxedo jicman # netstat -unlp |grep 177 d-tuxedo jicman # so, I guess so, maybe XDMCP is not enabled. But I am able to get into gnome when I am in front of the machine... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera schrieb: jose isaias cabrera schrieb: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. What you get if you try to connect with XDMCP (that's the protocol you are using if you chose -query) is completely depending on the settings of the gentoo Server. Usually that would be a login window. If you don't get anything, i assume xdmcp is not enabled on the gentoo box. Check if a process is listening to udp port 177 (netstat -unlp |grep 177). So, here is what I get, d-tuxedo 10:14:06- su Password: d-tuxedo jicman # netstat -unlp |grep 177 d-tuxedo jicman # so, I guess so, maybe XDMCP is not enabled. But I am able to get into gnome when I am in front of the machine... Yes, looks like xdmcp is not enabled. If you sitting at the machine you don't need xdmcp, only if you want to connect via the network. Enable xdmcp or use ssh tunneling. I recommend the first. ssh is enabled, though. That's how I connect to it from windows. I use putty or cygwin. let me enable xdmcp. Ok, so I enabled xdmcp and now I have a beautiful gnome signon screen. But, after login on, the screen disappears and the gnome signon screens appears again. Here is the output of the cygwin command line: jicman 12:12:58- XWin -clipboard -query d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -clipboard -query d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information winPrefsLoadPreferences: /home/us319318/.XWinrc LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) (--) Using preset keyboard for English (USA) (409), type 4 Rules = xorg Model = pc105 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options = (null) (--) 5 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 697 486 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winProcQueryTree - winInitClipboard returned. winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard client already launched, returning. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winClipboardIOErrorHandler! winClipboardProc - setjmp returned for IO Error Handler. FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information winPrefsLoadPreferences: /home/us319318/.XWinrc LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 09:42 -0500, jose isaias cabrera wrote: Holger Krull escribio, jose isaias cabrera schrieb: Greetings. I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Is there a way to add a menu on the X in the taskbar? I see that there is a Show Cursor, an About and Exit. Can I add an XTerm to that? Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ from http://x.cygwin.com/features.html Configurable Tray Icon Menu - Menu entries can be added to the configurable tray icon menu via a .XWinrc file in the user's home directory, or via a system.XWinrc file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Holger Krull escribio, jose isaias cabrera schrieb: Greetings. I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Is there a way to add a menu on the X in the taskbar? I see that there is a Show Cursor, an About and Exit. Can I add an XTerm to that? Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera schrieb: Greetings. I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Not to leave you hanging, the problem was the xdmcp was not enabled. But there is another problem, which has nothing to do with cygwin. Somehow, my userID has something weird. Other co-workers are connecting fine, but my user ID is not working from any machine. They can login from my cygwin setup with their logonID without any problem, but my userID just does not work. From my setup and their setup. This is a Gentoo x86 server running gdm. In case anyone has heard anything about it. Thanks for the help. jose isaias cabrera schrieb: jose isaias cabrera schrieb: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. What you get if you try to connect with XDMCP (that's the protocol you are using if you chose -query) is completely depending on the settings of the gentoo Server. Usually that would be a login window. If you don't get anything, i assume xdmcp is not enabled on the gentoo box. Check if a process is listening to udp port 177 (netstat -unlp |grep 177). So, here is what I get, d-tuxedo 10:14:06- su Password: d-tuxedo jicman # netstat -unlp |grep 177 d-tuxedo jicman # so, I guess so, maybe XDMCP is not enabled. But I am able to get into gnome when I am in front of the machine... Yes, looks like xdmcp is not enabled. If you sitting at the machine you don't need xdmcp, only if you want to connect via the network. Enable xdmcp or use ssh tunneling. I recommend the first. ssh is enabled, though. That's how I connect to it from windows. I use putty or cygwin. let me enable xdmcp. Ok, so I enabled xdmcp and now I have a beautiful gnome signon screen. But, after login on, the screen disappears and the gnome signon screens appears again. Here is the output of the cygwin command line: jicman 12:12:58- XWin -clipboard -query d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -clipboard -query d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information winPrefsLoadPreferences: /home/us319318/.XWinrc LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file... winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) (--) Using preset keyboard for English (USA) (409), type 4 Rules = xorg Model = pc105 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options = (null) (--) 5 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 697 486 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Xdmcp enabled, waiting to start clipboard client until fourth call. winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winProcQueryTree - winInitClipboard returned. winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard client already launched, returning. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winClipboardIOErrorHandler! winClipboardProc - setjmp returned for IO Error Handler. FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Hi, DISPLAY on the Linux box must be set to the IP address of the cygwin box. H... But DISPLAY on the cygwin box must be set to either localhost or the IP address of this machine. Ok, this one was set to d-tuxedo, which I did not change. But I just set it back to localhost:0.0 and still happens. You also must have some method to communicate between both machines. I always used telnet as it was all locally done. You can also take SSH if you do not know who else listens between. I do. I am able to connect to d-tuxedo through ssh, etc. I just want to use X with cygwin to get to it. Erich jose isaias cabrera wrote: d-tuxedo 00:32:35- set | grep DISPLAY DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 what should it be? - Original Message - From: Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server Hi, jose isaias cabrera wrote: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: I did this for years using FreeBSD as the server. No problems. XWin -query d-tuxedo Ok, I used the startup script provided by cygwin to start the local X server and then connected to the FreeBSD machine. Did you set the DISPLAY variable properly on the Linux box? Erich -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 09:38 -0500, jose isaias cabrera wrote: Hi, DISPLAY on the Linux box must be set to the IP address of the cygwin box. H... But DISPLAY on the cygwin box must be set to either localhost or the IP address of this machine. Ok, this one was set to d-tuxedo, which I did not change. But I just set it back to localhost:0.0 and still happens. You also must have some method to communicate between both machines. I always used telnet as it was all locally done. You can also take SSH if you do not know who else listens between. I do. I am able to connect to d-tuxedo through ssh, etc. I just want to use X with cygwin to get to it. try ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] or ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then try to start an xterm -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
jose isaias cabrera schrieb: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo Are you sure XDMCP is enabled on this server? Try Xwin -query gentoo.numeric.ip -from windows.nummeric.ip I did that and I get the same thing. I get the Cygwin X Window with the title, Cygwin/X - d-tuxedo.na.xde3.xerox.org Because I think I am connecting, but I am not getting anything yet. What you get if you try to connect with XDMCP (that's the protocol you are using if you chose -query) is completely depending on the settings of the gentoo Server. Usually that would be a login window. If you don't get anything, i assume xdmcp is not enabled on the gentoo box. Check if a process is listening to udp port 177 (netstat -unlp |grep 177). -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
1.) If you start the XWin.exe and then connect to d-tuxedo over ssh and there you start: DISPLAY=your_displays_IP:0 xterm does it work ? 2.) is there an XDCMP server running on d-tuxedo ? (can be set somewhere in the gdm settings Allow remote loginW or similar) Regards, David -Original Message- From: jose isaias cabrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:58:26 -0500 Subject: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server Greetings. I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: XWin -query d-tuxedo where d-tuxedo is the X Server. It works well with xinit. Here is the .xinitrc: jicman 23:51:28- cat .xinitrc #!/bin/sh # $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $ userresources=$HOME/.Xresources usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap # merge in defaults and keymaps if [ -f $sysresources ]; then xrdb -merge $sysresources fi if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then xmodmap $sysmodmap fi if [ -f $userresources ]; then xrdb -merge $userresources fi if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then xmodmap $usermodmap fi # start some nice programs xhost + localhost cd xterm -display $DISPLAY -name xterm-1 -sb \ -sl 1000 -geometry +0+0 xterm -display $DISPLAY -name xterm-2 -sb \ -sl 1000 -geometry +270+190 #fvwm2 wmaker So, what is it that I am doing wrong? I tried searching on different places and google it, but I could not find any thing. Any help would be greated appreciated. thanks, josé -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Hi, DISPLAY on the Linux box must be set to the IP address of the cygwin box. But DISPLAY on the cygwin box must be set to either localhost or the IP address of this machine. You also must have some method to communicate between both machines. I always used telnet as it was all locally done. You can also take SSH if you do not know who else listens between. Erich jose isaias cabrera wrote: d-tuxedo 00:32:35- set | grep DISPLAY DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 what should it be? - Original Message - From: Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server Hi, jose isaias cabrera wrote: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: I did this for years using FreeBSD as the server. No problems. XWin -query d-tuxedo Ok, I used the startup script provided by cygwin to start the local X server and then connected to the FreeBSD machine. Did you set the DISPLAY variable properly on the Linux box? Erich -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
d-tuxedo 00:32:35- set | grep DISPLAY DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 what should it be? - Original Message - From: Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server Hi, jose isaias cabrera wrote: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: I did this for years using FreeBSD as the server. No problems. XWin -query d-tuxedo Ok, I used the startup script provided by cygwin to start the local X server and then connected to the FreeBSD machine. Did you set the DISPLAY variable properly on the Linux box? Erich -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using XWin.exe to connect to a linux X Server
Hi, jose isaias cabrera wrote: I am trying to connect to a Gentoo X Server and it is connecting, but I don't seem to be able to open an xterm. All I get is a full screen without anything. I am running this command: I did this for years using FreeBSD as the server. No problems. XWin -query d-tuxedo Ok, I used the startup script provided by cygwin to start the local X server and then connected to the FreeBSD machine. Did you set the DISPLAY variable properly on the Linux box? Erich -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
