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You're correct on the 271, but I'm *sure* you didn't mean to
type 'Utah'.
Ok, two faithless electors would throw it to the house, and
three would make it Gore, as I said on the 8th.
Peter
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No, if Bush won Florida but not Utah, he'd have
246+25=271, not 270 e.v.
If one elector defected, Bush would win, if two electors defected,
Bush would win (in House), if three electors defected, Gore would win.
-Declan
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:16:38AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
Do the
Whoops. You're right: I meant to type "Oregon." If it went to the House, it
would be a ~25-19 vote for Bush, per my Wired article on Sat. --Declan
At 12:45 11/15/2000 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
You're correct on the 271, but I'm *sure* you didn't mean to
type 'Utah'.
Ok, two faithless electors
I can no longer keep count of how many lawsuits and other actions are
now in the courts in various counties in Florida and heading for the
State Supreme Court. At least a dozen, though some are being
consolidated. More have been added, so the overall count will likely
go up.
There is not
The story is cited on perpetualelection.com. --Declan
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At 10:06 AM -0800 on 11/15/00, Tim May wrote:
the same lawyers who got O.J. off will get Gore into
the White House.
Yup.
We're going for the Nullification Trifecta here, boys and girls:
1. Jury Nullification -- O.J.
2. Legislative Nullification -- Cigar Willie meets the Blue Dress
3.
At 4:40 PM -0500 11/15/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 10:06 AM -0800 on 11/15/00, Tim May wrote:
the same lawyers who got O.J. off will get Gore into
the White House.
Yup.
We're going for the Nullification Trifecta here, boys and girls:
1. Jury Nullification -- O.J.
2. Legislative
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At 05:53 PM 11/13/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that
has nothing to do with hackers intercepting the vote, blah blah.
Righto. Absentee ballots require a witness,
Mac Norton wrote:
And then the locusts descend. And they feed. Because the ants
and the grasshoppers never could get their shit together.
0/10 for entomology. Locusts *are* grasshoppers :-)
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Jim Choate wrote:
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Yes, thank you very much, indeed, absolutely.
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At 10:50 AM -0800 11/14/00, Tim May wrote:
The Democrat untermenchen are even trying to overrule the local
canvassing boards which have said they "see no point" in a manual
recount.
Ja, I know the correct spelling is "untermenschen."
After naming my Siamese cat "Nietzsche," I finally learned
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At 2:32 PM -0800 11/13/00, Tib wrote:
Hope I'm not being totally naive about the capability of computer
hardware, but
I sure don't recall my PC (or any that I have ever had or can think of
seeing) having short range
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote:
This is why people who don't know statistics should not be allowed to
think... By no means is that number, by itself, of any significance
whatsoever. How many got canceled last election- one number I heard
said 14,000. If so then 19,000 is about what
The Florida Secretary of State has just ruled
that any recounts not completed by [sometime]
tomorrow won't be certified.
The Democrats should not give them any numbers
for Palm Beach County while the recanvas continues.
And of course, now the lawsuits fly.
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Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:38 + 11/10/00, Ken Brown wrote:
But are there no rules in Florida allowing for a re-vote? If there
really are 19,000 spoiled papers from once county, that sounds "massive"
to me. It may not be fraud - the fools who designed the papers probably
thought they
At 12:23 AM 11/13/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#These spoiled ballots don't imply that the voters who
#created them didn't ask for and receive new ballots.
Those 30,000 (not 19,000) were from the ballot box, not
replaced ballots from on-site.
That's
At 11:28 AM + 11/13/00, Ken Brown wrote:
Tim May wrote:
The solution has been obvious for a long time: absentee ballots must
be received by the close of business on the polling day. Those who
know they are going to be out of their voting area must mail their
ballots in time to
At 02:29 AM 11/12/00 -0800, petro wrote:
Bush winning is bad, AlGore winning is worse. This insane
infighting over the spoils is too much to stomach.
I disagree. The House and the Senate will be Republican,
or at least nearly so.
Al Gore with a 100-vote Florida plurality would have an
FoxNewsChannel reports Jesse Jackson is about to fire up a large crowd.
Cross your fingers, Tim.
You pathetic twerp.
I fart in your general direction! Take your finger our of your sphincter.
May the bird of paradise fly up your ass,
Your ex-Parrot
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that
has nothing to do with hackers intercepting the vote, blah blah.
Righto. Absentee ballots require a witness, usually an officer (if
you're in the military) or a
At 5:53 PM -0500 11/13/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that
has nothing to do with hackers intercepting the vote, blah blah.
Righto. Absentee ballots require a witness,
Tim May wrote:
I did some more digging on various Florida sites which discuss
absentee ballots.
[snip]
If the voter is unable to mail or personally deliver the ballot, the
voter may designate in writing a person to return the ballot. The
designated person may NOT return more than two
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It's unsafe for the
Tim May wrote:
The solution has been obvious for a long time: absentee ballots must
be received by the close of business on the polling day. Those who
know they are going to be out of their voting area must mail their
ballots in time to arrive. This eliminates this particular hazard.
When
Am I the only one delighting in the irony of someone using the name Orwell
having no better writing skills than to rely on repetitive phrases in an
attempt to brainwash us into thinking that Herr May is the enemy?
I realize the traditional Internet way to deal with these fools is to ignore
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 03:07:40PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
I did some more digging on various Florida sites which discuss
absentee ballots.
It looks like Florida makes a clear distinction between what I'll
call "ordinary absentee ballots" and what I'll call "military
absentee ballots."
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 02:41:14PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
At 5:53 PM -0500 11/13/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that
has nothing to do with hackers intercepting the vote,
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
What a cluster fuck. Punch drunk, dazed burrowcrats triggering this
train wreck.
I will not forget this week, and not forget watching this latest
event live, as it happened. Kind of the the "moon landing" of
political train wrecks.
What I don't
Bush actually lost votes, a very bad omen for him.
Partially detached chads tend to come off during
repeated runs through the tabulating machinery.
This recount is occurring without a court order,
it's provided for by Florida law.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/politics/12WIRE-PALM.html
#
#
Alan:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
What a cluster fuck. Punch drunk, dazed burrowcrats triggering this
train wreck.
I will not forget this week, and not forget watching this latest
event live, as it happened. Kind of the the "moon landing" of
political train wrecks.
What I
At 12:38 + 11/10/00, Ken Brown wrote:
But are there no rules in Florida allowing for a re-vote? If there
really are 19,000 spoiled papers from once county, that sounds "massive"
to me. It may not be fraud - the fools who designed the papers probably
thought they were doing right - but it has
At 17:52 -0800 11/9/00, Tim May wrote:
At 8:55 PM -0500 11/9/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I suggest that we find one county for each state that we believe to be
representative, let them vote, and then extrapolate from their results
and assign electors accordingly.
Or perhaps one household per
Actually there's a much more mundane reason for people not viewing the
ads on algebra.com. The javascipt code is broken and doesn't display
anything in netscape. So if you view the page with netscape, the ads
don't show...
Oh well, using javascript is a stupid idea anyway. I think you got
Kevin Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%This is why people who don't know statistics should not be allowed to
%think... By no means is that number, by itself, of any significance
%whatsoever. How many got canceled last election- one number I heard
%said 14,000. If so then 19,000
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White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned:
#Hey, Vulis, I was the one who pointed this out earlier than nearly
#anyone else. Yesterday, early afternoon, my time. Check it out.
Oooh, want to compete on who was first?
!From root Mon Nov 6 19:09:23 2000
!
Tim, that's just stupid.
MacN
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
Live and let live.
Fuck that.
--Tim May
The hate mongering Tim May who claims not to hate Jews, tells us:
I'm fully aware that the Democrats will likely win through exactly
this trickery. The Dems used their Jew lawyers very quickly and very
shrewdly. The Republicans trusted to the count and recount, which
they won.
Well, us gun
At 10:19 PM -0600 11/12/00, Mac Norton wrote:
Tim, that's just stupid.
MacN
And I don't need your prissy comments about my choice of words.
--Tim May
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
Live and let live.
Fuck that.
--Tim May
--
At 02:41 PM 11/9/00 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 09:02 AM 11/9/00 -0800, Tim May wrote:
I agree that that's a strong point - if any of those 19000 voters
was confused, the time for them to raise the issue was at the poll.
If they _did_ ask "hey, this is confusing, how do I vote for Gore?"
at the
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Of course you don't. However, this list is monitored by
many people who never post. They need to hear that there
are some of us here who know stupidity when we see it.
You're smarter than "fuck that," and I'm ashamed of you.
MacN
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
At 10:19 PM -0600 11/12/00,
At 11:08 PM -0600 11/12/00, Mac Norton wrote:
Of course you don't. However, this list is monitored by
many people who never post. They need to hear that there
are some of us here who know stupidity when we see it.
You're smarter than "fuck that," and I'm ashamed of you.
Gee, poor little Mac
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Apparently the request wasn't made within the required 72 hour
period,
so, Bush lost out there. Of course, recounts there wouldn't
make much
difference anyway: no fucked-up ballot. I think such recounts
should
be allowed even if they missed
Seriously, Tim, are you just going to continue
to fart around here and in Usenet for another
10 years, or are you going to do something to
propagate your views?
I'd suggest a video game.
There would be white trash (liked you), Jews, Blacks...
Some specific personalities: Jesse Jackson, Al
Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#These spoiled ballots don't imply that the voters who
#created them didn't ask for and receive new ballots.
Those 30,000 (not 19,000) were from the ballot box, not
replaced ballots from on-site.
White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May
FoxNewsChannel has announced George Dubya Bush will
make a pre-emptive court strike by challenging
manual recounts. This, following warning Gore not
to challenge results in court.
These recounts are provided by state law, and are
not being done for any court.
Bush's objection is that people are
At 1:19 AM -0800 11/11/00, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 08:34 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Phaedrus wrote:
actually, since ballots were supposed to be postmarked two days ago,
killing you now wouldn't help (even if I were for it, which I'm not,
personally) unless something very bad were going on
Yup.
Wow, check this out. Not surprising, in retrospect.
Teacher: "Johnny, why didn't you finish your research report on that
candidate and his views?"
Johnny: "The library computer blocked me."
Teacher: "It's to save the children."
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Number Six)
Subject: Candidates'
Declan, powerful Media Mogul, wrote:
#George seems to have an unusual fixation on Vulis...
THAT'S NOT FUNNY.
White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned:
#I trust more in machines for counting machine ballots than I trust in
#local politicians counting machine
At 4:19 PM -0800 11/11/00, petro wrote:
--
At 03:11 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote:
Physical ballot voting has its problems, but at least people
_understand_ the concept of marking a ballot, as opposed to
"blinding the exponent of their elliptic curve function and then
solving
A prime example of machine counting being unreliable.
[New Mexico]
http://foxnews.com/election_night/111000/new_mexico.sml
#
#The county withdrew early-voting and absentee ballots Tuesday
#night after officials discovered a glitch in the computers used
#to tally votes. The machines
Mr. May said:
At 4:19 PM -0800 11/11/00, petro wrote:
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At 03:11 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote:
Physical ballot voting has its problems, but at least people
_understand_ the concept of marking a ballot, as opposed to
"blinding the exponent of their elliptic curve function and
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I just watched a group of punch drunk commission members debate
whether to order a _manual recount_ of all ballots in Palm Beach
County. They voted 2-1, and unless this is overturned (?), they will
begin planning the recount effort on Monday.
The count of a sample of 1% of the votes took all
At 08:34 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Phaedrus wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his
extreme
right wing malitia friends have missed there chance.
So is "malitia" a bunch of bad soldiers?
Certainly the 400 of
It's called "Straight Party", and IIRC it is a box on the
Missouri ballots. I *know* it was on the Illinois ballots. Saves dead
people time you understand, they only have a limited amount of time.
They removed it from the Illinois ballots 4 years ago. It now takes me 10
times longer to
At 03:24 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Trei, Peter wrote:
This is covered by the Presidential Succession Act of 1947. See
http://www.greatsource.com/amgov/almanac/documents/key/1947_psa_1.html
Actualy it isn't. It's covered by the 20th amendment, section 3.
The
At 05:47 AM 11/10/00 -0600, Jim Burnes wrote:
I envision a day (background music swelling and eyes tearing slightly --
an obvious Oscar moment) when it matters little who the President-elect is,
because DC is bound and emasculated by its original constitutional chains.
The day when the Pres has
Austin,
Thanks for your note. I respect what you're trying to do at ZKS. I think
that if ZKS succeeds, the world will be a better place. Further, I have a
tremendous deal of respect for some of the very excellent people you have
hired.
But wishing something to be true does not make it so. My
At 11:36 11/11/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote:
So, yes, I would say that there must obviously be other language on this.
If not, then you could have the journalistic scoop of the century, er, for
a few
Not this time. Some additional research says that the federal "Uniformed
and Overseas Citizens
At 11:54 AM -0800 11/11/00, Eric Cordian wrote:
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bell was not coerced into taking the plea agreement; if
anything, he seems to have more mental resources to fight
the system than other defendants I have interviewed.
Unless the plea agreement
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 10:39:31PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 05:58:11PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I vote you are hereby ex-communicated from the Cypherpunks club,
joining Dimitry Vulis.
At 07:05 PM 11/9/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Huh? Tim has been
On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 11:54:44AM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote:
So I repeat my question. Does Jim Bell, aside from signing a statement
prepared for him by the government, in order to avoid a much longer
sentence, acknowlege annoying the IRS with unpleasant-smelling chemical
substances? A
BTW I tried to get a copy of Bell's case file (including the search
warrant affidavit that Jeff Gordon co would have had to swear out)
but as of midweek it was still sealed.
-Declan
At 11:55 AM -0800 11/11/00, Tim May wrote:
* Stage Four of the FUD Campaign, current: "We demand a manual
recount. Two counts, the first one and then the state-mandated
machine recount, are not enough. We are certain that if certain
counties are counted again, and again, that the extra votes
At 1:04 PM -0800 11/11/00, Tim May wrote:
At 11:55 AM -0800 11/11/00, Tim May wrote:
* Stage Four of the FUD Campaign, current: "We demand a manual recount. Two
* Stage 4.5 of the FUD Campaign, Saturday afternoon: "It's the
chads, the little pieces of paper punched out but hanging by a
Also see:
http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/10/0028217mode=nested
On this topic.
-Declan
On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 11:52:49AM -0800, Greg Broiles wrote:
An ISP trade organization has commissioned a paper detailing the
legal basis (or lack thereof) for law enforcement requests to
At 08:34 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Phaedrus wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his
extreme
right wing malitia friends have missed there chance.
So is "malitia" a bunch of bad soldiers?
No, malicious.
Eric,
I invite folks to read the full article at:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,40102,00.html
http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/11/101218mode=nested
I'm not taking a position on Bell's case. I do need to tell my readers
why was locked up earlier, and that seemed a
--
At 03:11 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote:
Physical ballot voting has its problems, but at least people
_understand_ the concept of marking a ballot, as opposed to
"blinding the exponent of their elliptic curve function and then
solving the discrete log problem for an n-out-of-m
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