Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-24 Thread George
Jim Burnes smoldered: #Reese wrote: # Reno burned little kids in their church, because of the FIREARMS held # or believed to be held somewhere on or around the compound. # # You might want to reappraise. # #I've appraised the Waco scenario more than most. You might

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-23 Thread petro
-- On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 04:13:32PM -1000, Reese wrote: Then why were the troops laying siege to the compound, instead of snatching koresh when he made one of his frequent trips into town? At 11:54 PM 1/19/2001 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: Because sometimes a show of force is

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-21 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:32:14AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: -- On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 04:13:32PM -1000, Reese wrote: Then why were the troops laying siege to the compound, instead of snatching koresh when he made one of his frequent trips into town? At 11:54 PM 1/19/2001

Re: John Ashcroft

2001-01-21 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:06:43AM -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote But I wonder who really believes Ashcroft is being absolutely genuine in his responses to Feinstein? In the last election in Texas when G.W. Bush was running for governor he

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-21 Thread Declan McCullagh
At 12:07 AM 1/21/01 -1000, Reese wrote: It wasn't a right for the what, 40,000 in flint michigan, either, was it? It's called at-will employment: You keep your employer happy, you get your job. (I'm starting to think you're not only very educated, but not very educable. I'd love for you to

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-21 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: You're thinking too literally. Show of force: When an employer reminds a slacker that having a job is not a right. That's just shit rolling downhill. How long is a manager going to have his job if he *doesn't* fire slackers? Or how long can an

Re: John Ashcroft

2001-01-20 Thread Raymond D. Mereniuk
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote But I wonder who really believes Ashcroft is being absolutely genuine in his responses to Feinstein? In the last election in Texas when G.W. Bush was running for governor he was accused by his opponent of only using the governvorship of Texas as a

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
Reno probably didn't expect the situation to, um, blow up in her face. It is also undisputed that if they wanted to avoid a show of force, they could have nabbed Koresh during his jogs around the property line or whatnot in the morning. Reese, you blather too much. -Declan At 09:19 PM

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-20 Thread Tim May
At 9:00 AM -0500 1/20/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: Reno probably didn't expect the situation to, um, blow up in her face. It is also undisputed that if they wanted to avoid a show of force, they could have nabbed Koresh during his jogs around the property line or whatnot in the morning. Reese,

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-20 Thread Mac Norton
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Tim May wrote: As for Ashcroft, we'll see. Bush won, so Bush gets to appoint his staff. The whole "review by the Senate" thing is a relic of the McCarthy era, actually, and should be done away with. Advice and consent of the Senate as to federal officers has been in

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
At 10:52 AM 1/20/01 -1000, Reese wrote: It is also undisputed that if they wanted to avoid a show of force, they could have nabbed Koresh during his jogs around the property line or whatnot in the morning. I said something to that effect, yesterday. Missed it, did'ja? Pardon me if I don't

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-20 Thread John Young
William Jennings McCullagh wrote: But I get paid by the word for mine, generally speaking. Those are speaking words did you not say a few days ago, now worth more than wired fool's nuggets. Who's your agent for priceless yarp, and what's her cut? These questions are aimed at learning how to

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-19 Thread Jim Burnes
On Thursday 18 January 2001 23:00, Reese wrote: At 11:56 AM 1/18/01 -0600, Jim Burnes wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2001 10:15, Declan McCullagh wrote: Quite right. Ashcroft is objectionable, as is any candidate George W. would propose, but he is arguably less objectionable than Reno.

Re: John Ashcroft

2001-01-19 Thread Declan McCullagh
://www.prorev.org), has confirmed something that drug war observers had strongly suspected: John Ashcroft, as Missouri Governor, agreed to "look the other why" while state police

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-19 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 04:13:32PM -1000, Reese wrote: Then why were the troops laying siege to the compound, instead of snatching koresh when he made one of his frequent trips into town? Because sometimes a show of force is perceved as necessary. Heck, employers do it to employees all the

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
ead skunks. Sounds like everyone's taking this process real seriously. Confirmation is more like a ritual hazing and has absolutely nothing to do with a candidate's fitness for the job. We've survived Ed Meese and Janet Reno, we'll survive John Ashcroft, too. -- Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: John Ashcroft

2001-01-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
something to the effect that "We need to move forward on these issues". He also mentioned that he favored closing the "gun show loophole" (A view shared by Republican sellouts). On both 1st and 4th amendment issues, John Ashcroft has one of the worst records on Ca

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
I've written about Ashcroft's mixed records on tech issues: http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=ashcroft On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 07:54:00PM -0800, Anonymous wrote: "Me" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "sparky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-17 Thread Greg Broiles
everyone's taking this process real seriously. Confirmation is more like a ritual hazing and has absolutely nothing to do with a candidate's fitness for the job. We've survived Ed Meese and Janet Reno, we'll survive John Ashcroft, too. -- Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 897 Oakland CA 94604

oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-16 Thread sparky
If this is inappropriate for this list, I hope all participants will accept my apologies in advance, and let me know, and I will not post this sort of thing here again. If any here are in opposition to the nomination of John Ashcroft to Attorney General, the following website allows citizens

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-16 Thread Anonymous
"Me" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "sparky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.opposeashcroft.com I'm not trying to get people into any arguments here.. I thought this might be appropriate since people here are concerned with civil rights. Quite right, I am

Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-16 Thread Harmon Seaver
will accept my apologies in advance, and let me know, and I will not post this sort of thing here again. If any here are in opposition to the nomination of John Ashcroft to Attorney General, the following website allows citizens to sign a petition stating this: http://www.opposeashcroft.com I'm