Satoshi nakamoto's pre-release draft, does some one have this version?

2017-08-18 Thread mark M
*Satoshi nakamoto's pre-release draft, does some one have this version? also if there are any other pointers or relevant pre-bitcoin reading material would be great.. thanks* You can download a pre-release draft at http://www.upload.ae/file/ 6157/ecash-pdf.html Feel free to forward it to anyone

Re: My Opinion on Fighting Neo-Nazis and the Future of Free Expression

2017-08-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
WARNING: BUG detected ... post-analyzing ... > > Yes, it is terrible that states and malicious actors censors others > > through DDOS attacks, > > why are DDOS attacks ignored as speech? ... > > Those state > > owned computers should be blocked from the internet. ... BUG AFFIRMATIVE:

Re: My Opinion on Fighting Neo-Nazis and the Future of Free Expression

2017-08-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
... WARNING: nom de plumage IDed; invoke LR parse engine ... On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 05:48:27PM -0700, Ryan Carboni wrote: > Due to inflation my opinion has increased in value from two to three cents. > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression ...

My Opinion on Fighting Neo-Nazis and the Future of Free Expression

2017-08-18 Thread Ryan Carboni
Due to inflation my opinion has increased in value from two to three cents. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression This talk about free speech runs contrary to libertarian values about not having borders. Offending people is not protected by the

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 05:04:46PM -0300, Juan wrote: > > A currency can't just be used for gambling and have any lasting > > value. Fees are so high on BTC as preclude any use BUT gambling > > whereas BCCs are back where BTC was 2 years+ ago. Imagine if USD > > could only be used for bank wires

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 02:05:31PM -0500, Steven Schear wrote: > A snapshot from a few minutes ago. Notice how pricing became a hockey stick > when BCC approached 0.153 BTC. > > [image: Inline image 2] Well done with your reclaim, lads! Exciting show to watch :) That's the Flippening - a

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread juan
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:40:20 -0500 Steven Schear wrote: > Agreed. Atm its almost all gambling. I'm hoping BTC crashes because L2 > scaling is not tested and ready but L2 8MB blocks seem to be solid. well, I don't know how far development of the lightning network

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread juan
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:40:24 -0500 Steven Schear wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:30 PM, juan wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:29:54 -0500 > > Steven Schear wrote: > > > > > [Disclosure: I am a strong supporter of L1

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
And now some politics... *Here is why Bitcoin Cash (BCH) Is The Real Bitcoin* *It is the original bitcoin* It was hijacked from Gavin Andresen very surreptitiously by Adam Back (back in the day, Adam and I worked on hashcash and digital cash-related projects) with his Sidechain

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Mirimir
On 08/18/2017 07:52 AM, Steven Schear wrote: > They may be separate but they are not unrelated. There is only so much > mining power and its distribution affects both (actually all) chains. Sure, they're related in that sense. But let's accept that the current BTC/BCC situation is a form of

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
A snapshot from a few minutes ago. Notice how pricing became a hockey stick when BCC approached 0.153 BTC. [image: Inline image 2] On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Steven Schear wrote: > They may be separate but they are not unrelated. There is only so much > mining

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
They may be separate but they are not unrelated. There is only so much mining power and its distribution affects both (actually all) chains. Speaking of which BCC has reach the price (0.153 BTC), calculated on reddit by Jonathan Vaage, at which mining on BCC (including all costs and rewards) is

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:30 PM, juan wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:29:54 -0500 > Steven Schear wrote: > > > [Disclosure: I am a strong supporter of L1 (Blockchain scaling) > > occurring before any L2 (e.g., Segwit, Blockstream, Lightening > >

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Razer
On 08/18/2017 09:55 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 09:29:54AM -0500, Steven Schear wrote: >> original) and Cash. When the fork happened those holding BTC (in their own >> wallets) were also able to claim an equal amount of BCC (for free). This >> created a huge supply of

Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Duvos
The Daily Stormer just came back on the Clearnet as dailystormer.lol, with DDOS protection from BitMitigate, a Seattle company. "The .LOL top-level domain will provide individuals, businesses or organizations with a unique web address for funny or comedic content." Let's see how long this lasts.

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread juan
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 19:55:10 +0300 Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 09:29:54AM -0500, Steven Schear wrote: > > original) and Cash. When the fork happened those holding BTC (in > > their own wallets) were also able to claim an equal amount of BCC > > (for

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread juan
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:29:54 -0500 Steven Schear wrote: > [Disclosure: I am a strong supporter of L1 (Blockchain scaling) > occurring before any L2 (e.g., Segwit, Blockstream, Lightening > Network, etc.) is attempted. And even then all L2 must be thoroughly > examined not

Re: Do you have predictions about 2017?

2017-08-18 Thread juan
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 07:49:37 -0500 Steven Schear wrote: > I predict a coup, perhaps using a major false flag or the 25th > Amendment, to unseat Trump before the end of the year. I take it you are joking?

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 09:29:54AM -0500, Steven Schear wrote: > original) and Cash. When the fork happened those holding BTC (in their own > wallets) were also able to claim an equal amount of BCC (for free). This > created a huge supply of BCC. However, many or most people rarely keep Isn't

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
A few of the interesting sites to monitor in real-time BTC/BCC blockchain activities in this space: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/uahf/#8h http://bch.xbt.it/?interval=0 https://cash.coin.dance/blocks (although somewhat delayed form real-time, its "mining profitability" reading is probably a

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Mirimir
On 08/18/2017 03:55 AM, Steven Schear wrote: > Right, as long as you either exported your Bitcoin to your own wallet or > your Bitcoin was deposited in an exchange that assured its customers that > they would not claim the BCC themselves but hold it for users, then you are > fine. If, OTOH, your

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
Right, as long as you either exported your Bitcoin to your own wallet or your Bitcoin was deposited in an exchange that assured its customers that they would not claim the BCC themselves but hold it for users, then you are fine. If, OTOH, your Bitcoin was deposited in an exchange that alerted its

Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
[Disclosure: I am a strong supporter of L1 (Blockchain scaling) occurring before any L2 (e.g., Segwit, Blockstream, Lightening Network, etc.) is attempted. And even then all L2 must be thoroughly examined not only for technical flaws but for possible misuses that affects the value and utility of

Re: Do you have predictions about 2017?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
I predict a coup, perhaps using a major false flag or the 25th Amendment, to unseat Trump before the end of the year. On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > Niels Bohr allegedly said "Predictions are difficult, especially about > the future". > > Do you

Re: Do you have predictions about 2017?

2017-08-18 Thread Steven Schear
I predict Bitcoin Core (what most people are calling Bitcoin since the recent fork) will crash and Bitcoin Cash, the new fork, will take over its mantle as Bitcoin. On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > Niels Bohr allegedly said "Predictions are