Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-05 Thread Kindra Meow
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/technology/yahoo-email-tech-companies-government-investigations.html ] Yahoo was ordered last year to search incoming emails for the digital “signature” of a communications method used by a state-sponsored, foreign terrorist organization, according to a

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-05 Thread Razer
On 10/04/2016 08:49 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > *From:* Shawn K. Quinn > > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 02:26 +, jim bell wrote: > >>> Generally speaking, American Federal laws are not applicable outside >>> the United States (and its territories) unless the law explicitly

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 04:07:52 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 00:29 -0300, juan wrote: > >> On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 22:17:36 -0500 > >> "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > I do agree in principle that the information needs to get out > >> >

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread jim bell
From: Razer On 10/04/2016 08:07 PM, juan wrote: >>     ...but I don't think the mafia known as 'american government' >>     would agree with that. Subjects, hostages or 'citizens' of the >>     american government are, well, subjected to that mafia. The >>     subjection has

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread jim bell
From: Shawn K. Quinn On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 02:26 +, jim bell wrote: >> Generally speaking, American Federal laws are not applicable outside >> the United States (and its territories) unless the law explicitly says >> so.  The term is called "extraterritorial

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 00:29 -0300, juan wrote: > On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 22:17:36 -0500 > "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > > > > > I do agree in principle that the information needs to get out there, > > and for the US government to try to keep it secret is at least a bit > >

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread juan
On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 22:17:36 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > > I do agree in principle that the information needs to get out there, > and for the US government to try to keep it secret is at least a bit > un-American, if not flagrantly so. Au contraire. It's 100%

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 20:07 -0700, Razer wrote: > I was going to bring up the concept that corporate officers (at least) > are really OWNED by the corporation that employs them and the US > government probably considers them as 'being in the US' no matter > where they go as long as they're in the

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 02:26 +, jim bell wrote: > Generally speaking, American Federal laws are not applicable outside > the United States (and its territories) unless the law explicitly says > so. The term is called "extraterritorial jurisdiction" >

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread Razer
On 10/04/2016 08:07 PM, juan wrote: > > ...but I don't think the mafia known as 'american government' > would agree with that. Subjects, hostages or 'citizens' of the > american government are, well, subjected to that mafia. The > subjection has little to do with which

[Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-04 Thread Razer
On 10/04/2016 02:30 PM, jim bell wrote: > Yahoo secretly scanned customer emails for US intelligence-sources http://dailym.ai/2dOI1gj via http://dailym.ai/android > I wonder if the execs who approved this or someone on Y!'s legal team who advised them to comply is secretly on Google's payroll