Bitcoin, Tor and APster, oh my!
https://ncis.fandom.com/wiki/Under_the_Influence_(episode)
When Gia, a popular social media influencer who's also the daughter of a U.S.
ambassador is kidnapped, OSP begin searching for her with the the investigation
intensifying when it's discovered
The Sprawling Radio Network That China's Firewall Can't Stop
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/the-sprawling-radio-network-that-chinas-firewall-cant-stop-5576671
https://www.state.gov/joint-statement-on-internet-shutdowns-in-iran/
With 120 stations surrounding China, Sound of Hope boasts
So, the Tor Project Incorporated just censored 1000+ independent nodes
off of the legacy tor network, and TPI is so cowardly they can't even
mention the name of and link to the competing project on their blog.
Wherein, the woke socialists at TPI also attempted to take a
swipe at how Free-Market
Telecom continues to eat shit and die.
The sooner you build more Distributed P2P RF and Fiber Nets
small one-time hardware investments, owned by each participant, piecewise
node by node, across the world, free transit, no subscription, forever...
the sooner you get more fun telecom bunkers and
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/new-attack-on-tor-can-deanonymize-hidden-services-with-surprising-accuracy/
https://news.mit.edu/2015/tor-vulnerability-0729
These attacks were known to the non-TOP-SECRET public
research groups at least 8 years ago. Tor Project Inc refused
Do you focus on AP over general decentralized markets because an
uncensored, anonymous market might provide for things like AP, and
this is considered a reason to prevent them?
Thinking a little of e.g. democratic market protocols.
Like Blacknet does - look where Julio is right now. Brr!
But we choose to go to the moon and do the other things not because they are
easy but because they are hard!
[
anyway, long story short, one of the big things the alternate identity
reduces is contributing to things it likely sees as similar to or
supporting anti-energy, anti-infrastructure, anti-civilization
activism, so one of the things i do when i really want to reduce a
painful experience is donate
It's 10 AM on July 23, 2023, and I am downloading tor browser 12.5.1
at 30 KB/s from a mirror.
Here are some tor mirrors:
https://tor.ybti.net/
https://tor.eprci.net/
https://tor.zilog.es/
Today I was lucky enough to stumble on some feelings of meaning or
sacredness while driving, and I drove
The hypocrite anti-freespeech frauds at Tor Project Incorporated
have deleted frontend mailman links to the Tor-Talk Archives and
shutdown the tor-talk mailing list claiming that it was "unused".
However any search for "tor-talk" on this list will prove that
that's a str
> Tor design has stayed 25 years old, while threats advanced light years, yet
> Tor Project Incorporated chooses silence refusing to even publicly
> speculating on design weakness in such wide public needed and vocal manner
> so as to inform warn users of some real issues.
"T
> If you want me to thread...go fuck yourselves.
Keep downfucking your own posts out of sight by not threading.
Go fuck yourself while you're at it.
If you want me to thread like Semich then I suggest you both go fuck yourselves.
Network Ignorance coming from the same Ignoramus who can't figure out
how to properly thread his email replies. Here's a protip...
HIT THE MOTHERFUCKING REPLY BUTTON YOU ASSHOLE !!!
>>> . . . the requirement is 50GB per day, *per link*.
Imagine you are a TOR entry node. If you are serving 1,000 people -
which is not a whole lot - you need to serve 50 TB of dummy traffic per day.
For free.
Big ouch.
Plus you need links to intermediate nodes - to do this pro
>> Up to a point, yes. In most cases that point is 25GB/month, after which
>> your traffic gets throttled. Unmetered lower bandwidth contracts also
>> exist, but don't help enough.
>>
>>
>> However, you miss my point - the requirement is 50GB per day, *per link
; exist, but don't help enough.
>
>
> However, you miss my point - the requirement is 50GB per day, *per link*.
>
> Imagine you are a TOR entry node. If you are serving 1,000 people -
> which is not a whole lot - you need to serve 50 TB of dummy traffic per
> day.
This is only
oint, yes. In most cases that point is 25GB/month, after which
your traffic gets throttled. Unmetered lower bandwidth contracts also
exist, but don't help enough.
However, you miss my point - the requirement is 50GB per day, *per link*.
Imagine you are a TOR entry node. If you are serving 1
Nodes: GNURadio RF MultiSpectrum P2P Fiber Distributed Sensor Arrays
Encrypted FreeSpace Comms DropGangs Coins Astronomy UFOs Tor
Decentralized Science CrowdFunding
On uses for the previously discussed distributed modular hardware platform...
Everyone deploys a cheap P2P fiber/RF network comms
e is
> the same whether I use it or not.
I thought about this a little further and memories are filling in
where there used to be plans where a set transfer cap would become
exhausted and replenish at the end of the month, like mobile plans
have nowadays.
Still, it's clear the problem is slowl
> As to constant bandwidth/covertraffic, that is expensive even today. For
> constant bandwidth to get a 5 second response time for a smallish say
> 3MB web page you need to have 3 MB of covertraffic every 5 seconds, or
> 50GB per day, per link. Ouch.
I thought about this a little bit, and the
Very interesting Peter - thank you for contributing.
Now perhaps if Jacob Appelbaum is lurking . . .
Jake?
Thoughts?
In private if you like. Or PDF form. But I repeat myself.
5 seconds
was necessary - well it's either 5 seconds or much longer and more
covertraffic for real anonymity.
But TOR was supposed to be a web browser, and long response times are
not part of that world.
TOR however took up much of the interest in anonymous communications, to
the detrimen
> At one of the PET workshops {these discussed much of the academic
> background to the technology behind TOR, Mixminion etc} someone
> presented a paper on how long a user would wait for a reply to a web
> request. Up jumps an attendee who says he and some colleagues had
> alrea
On 06/04/2023 18:12, efc@swisscows.email wrote:
"Tor Stinks -- NSA, vulns known since before 2012"
Well before, in fact before TOR was even started. The initial developers
- Roger, Nick and Paul - were well aware of them. I was there in the bar
when they discussed star
On 4/6/23, efc@swisscows.email wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023, grarpamp wrote:
>> On 4/5/23, efc@swisscows.email wrote:
>>> So you wouldn't say that Tor is good since it is the least worst way for
>>> people to browse?
>>
>> Users getting jailed or murd
On 5/18/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many
wrote:
> it's really heartening to see this post to the tor lists
If you actually bothered to check the tor archives, you would discover
that in fact the "moderator [1]" aka Tor Project Incorporated
has blo
On 5/18/23, grarpamp wrote:
> On 1/23/23, Georg Koppen wrote:
>> the 0.4.5 series is going EOL
>
> There are multiple good reasons NOT to do this arbitrary thing.
>
> Is the Tor Project Incorporated (TPI) ever going to unbrick all its
> comms channels so that users and
On 1/23/23, Georg Koppen wrote:
> the 0.4.5 series is going EOL
There are multiple good reasons NOT to do this arbitrary thing.
Is the Tor Project Incorporated (TPI) ever going to unbrick all its
comms channels so that users and everyone else can freely
see and talk about such tor thi
ers hovering over mobile phone screens with a link saying
“Contact CIA”.
“This is my Russia. This will always be my Russia. I will endure.
My family will endure. We will live with dignity because of my
actions,” the narrator concludes.
The video at the end informs viewers how to submit informatio
silence can be anything (discourage, censorship, user error, disruption, bugs)
re tor: nym is the new tor? yes/no?
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023, grarpamp wrote:
On 4/5/23, efc@swisscows.email wrote:
So you wouldn't say that Tor is good since it is the least worst way for
people to browse?
Users getting jailed or murdered by the State's traffic
analysis and sybil systems is for them perhaps the worst
way to die
On 4/5/23, efc@swisscows.email wrote:
> So you wouldn't say that Tor is good since it is the least worst way for
> people to browse?
Users getting jailed or murdered by the State's traffic
analysis and sybil systems is for them perhaps the worst
way to die. Does voting for least
So you wouldn't say that Tor is good since it is the least worst way for
people to browse?
It is definitely not perfect but perhaps it could generate more noise in
which to bury the few signals that are out there?
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023, grarpamp wrote:
"Download Tor Browser to experience
"Download Tor Browser to experience real private browsing without
tracking, surveillance, or censorship. -- Tor Project Homepage, April 2023"
The Tor Project Incorporated is flat out lying and
has been putting its users at risk since decade+.
"Tor Stinks -- NSA, vulns known since before 2012"
>>> the Tor network typically used by Liquid is under a mysterious attack
>>>that makes it harder to use <<<
https://blog.nymtech.net/how-mixnets-led-to-bitcoin-blockstream-green-supported-by-nym-connect-85d2ee325012
Reposts not outings of Satoshi Nakamoto as Microserf cypherpunk
Since this is an old problem lets see if we can get a consensus for an
old-school response.
I move Tor now be treated in a similar fashion to the way this list treated the
EFF and REASON magazine back in the day.
Treat it as damage and route around ( pace Gilmore )
All those in favor
On 3/1/23, professor rat wrote:
> Since our AI reinforcements from the future just arrived
A lot of those are general purpose, not universal solutions.
> they should have Tor sorted by Xmas.
But you can rest assured that the specific problem of "tor"
has already been sorted
/2
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1801.02265.pdf
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1808.07285v1.pdf
These two papers are over five years old.
Tor Project Incorporated knew about them and their classes of attacks
and refused to tell their users about them and the risks to their safety.
Tor Project Incorporated also
Since our AI reinforcements from the future just arrived they should have Tor
sorted by Xmas.
We may even move on from " Very few are remailers and very few are Mints and
no-one's an assassin "
to " Everyone a remailer: Everyone a Mint: Everyone an assassin " by CYPHERPUNK
Tor Project Incorporated has for decades still refused to openly,
loudly, publicly, and routinely acknowledge and tell its users the
flaws and problems that people on this list have been saying for
many years, and have been censorbanned off Tor channels for
speaking the embarassing facts about Tor
On 1/23/23, A Tor Minion wrote:
> In case it affects you as you are still running your relay or bridge on
> Tor 0.4.5.x: the 0.4.5 series is going EOL
Yet still no one bothers to talk about what the censorban effects of that
would be upon the current use, and the future development a
https://www.techdirt.com/2014/10/06/documents-released-silk-road-case-add-more-evidence-to-parallel-construction-theory/
https://nusenu.medium.com/is-kax17-performing-de-anonymization-attacks-against-tor-users-42e566defce8
https://www.courtlistener.com/?q=%22tor%22%20%22foreign%20law%20enforcement
t of those, and there were simple tools all around]
If you look back at the history of mixmaster, it really stagnated at a
point, and it looks now like a struggle of very few devs to keep a
maintained codebase.
I don't know, of course, I was never involved with mail relays, but
it's an interesting parallel
> "Tor Stinks -- NSA, known since before 2012"
Tor Project: Still Infested With Many Conflicts Of Interest, and with
many problems that have been outlined for decade, not weeks,
that Tor Project and its minions still put users at risk by refusing to mention,
not least because it wou
hen
real 2^strong equivalent privacy requires many such joins, and needs
special wallets and tools, then claims that's the "usable" future.
- Claim that fully NSA and LE and "research" monitored and
operated Tor Network is somehow super secure, then proceed to
shovel unsuspe
Bitcoin money-bags to the rescue
The Tor Project
@torproject
16h
A big thank you to
@HillebrandMax
for writing about how the Tor network is critical privacy infrastructure that
can only thrive with community support. As a small nonprofit, recurring
donations are key for long-term
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(network)
Reposts for educatorator porpoises suddenly
>>> TOX
Tox is similar project to Briar and Cwtch, but it doesn’t use Tor– it’s just
PE. <<<
Since the Pentagon probably has a sort of Chainanalysis for TOR by now, I infer
TOX developed at least partly in response- Yes?
And now more and more can become remailers
Link: [1]canonical
dark.fail: Is a .onion site online?
Updated Sun, 18 Sep 2022
[2]Mastodon
[3]Twitter
You are on the clearnet. It is not recommended to view our site here.
Domain names are not as secure as Tor hidden services. Install Tor Browser
and visit us at our .onion instead
"Arti 1.0.0 is released: Our Rust Tor implementation
is ready for production use. -- Tor Project Inc"
Doesn't matter what language you write it in,
or what bells and whistles you add to it and advertise,
tor's fundamental underlying design and operations
are still subject to traffi
>>> octal
·
4h
Lol a .onion address on a big electronic billboard on the strip outside
Caesar’s forum shops
<<<
https://nordvpn.com/blog/how-to-register-onion-domain/#:~:text=does%20it%20work-,A%20.,take%20users%20to%20your%20website.
Reposts etc
I see why this is useful: if tor can now autoconfigure bridges this may
mean you don't need to find a communication channel to the dev team if it
previously didn't work for you. It may work out of the box again for a
while.
It's been a long time of manually configuring bridges.
BleepingComputer: Tor Browser now bypasses internet censorship automatically.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/tor-browser-now-bypasses-internet-censorship-automatically/
The Tor Project team has announced the release of Tor Browser 11.5, a major
release that brings new features
The NSA actively targets projects like Tor, to reduce and coopt their
effectiveness.
Appelbaum wrote about and cited this in his thesis.
>
It would be no surprise if spy agency workers were employed in Tor. It is
no surprise if they are also employed in other anonymity, privacy,
secur
hour. It is reasonable to assume that this number is significantly
higher after more than a decade."
Tor is not immune to such things... attacks and advances in attacks.
Yet everyone still refuses to talk about that, and Tor Project Incorporated
and it$ minion$ $till apologize$ for it$elve$ and refuse$ to a
I'm guessing you could perform the same 1-hop many-nodes approach to
specifically counter the impact of a circuit.
One factor this working depends on would be whether or not tor has put
efforts in place to mitigate it.
Assumption: you have a statistical model for behavior via a circuit,
possibly crafted after the attack.
1. Completely exhaust bandwidth via as many tor nodes as possible, ideally
by crafting
I'm guessing back in the 90s you would gain access to the tor nodes and log
them.
A brainwashed urge in me attempts to hunt down the origin of the
unsubscription, and proposes behavioral profiling.
If the harmful behaviors can be stimulated, patterns that stimulate them
can be enumerated, and compared to patterns of real world people.
I'm imagining such evidence would likely
Basically to address this clearly we'd need one of:
- communication with the source of the unsubscription
- access to the mailserver, use of a locally held gateway such a p2p
remailer, or in-depth work with greg
- either development of a lot of novel software or prior experience
engaging
all are tor exit nodes
>
Unsubscription request ips:
144.24.162.178
185.220.100.248
54.36.108.162
greppable list of exit nodes: https://check.torproject.org/torbulkexitlist
> Hacker collective Anonymous declares cyber war against Russia
Various LOICs and scripts launching matrixed around the world,
background packet noise and exploit signatures growing higher,
hackers and hactivismos and govts and corpos, all using physical
war as cover for their "harmless/innocent"
spamming mail. Tor and CIA propaganda
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
--- Original Message ---
grarpamp 27 Şubat 2022 Pazar saat 02:28 tarihinde yazdı:
> > Opensource recon hubs popping up...
>
> The Premise type apps have been known for quite some time,
>
> same
p the antiwar activists in Russia and
human rights defenders around the world, you can run a snowflake
proxy❄️ and/or a Tor bridge. Help us circumvent the Tor block in
Russia! #Ukraine #RussiaUkraineWar Read more here
blog.torproject.org/tor-cens…
Responding to Tor censorship in Russia | Tor Project
S
Well onioncat is not "arbitrary node" but is a set up one.
Yet some timing differentiations can be divined by
selectively constructing the "circuit" to test,
looking at setup timings, pushing characterizing
traffic through them and your own nodes,
polling existing services, etc.
Please publish
ring circuit
> construction, but what about a “live” circuit? Ideally, this would be a
> periodic thing Tor already keeps track of, but as an on-demand or as a
> byproduct/side-effect of a different function would also work. We have not
> been able to find a way to do this within the
just to clarify here,
my understanding is that is a non-moderated community and any list-wide
moderation is non-forthright and appropriately called censorship.
if the posts here become scalpel-like targeted mind control made by
powerful ai slavery systems to turn us all into hamburgers, that's
> I believe in free speech. With the right to free speech comes
responsibility. Flooding an email forum with off-topic posts is also
censorship as it makes the on-topic posts much harder to find and be read.
You believe in free speech but you're ratting the people in here.You remind us
of
-Original Message-
From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of
Shawn K. Quinn
Sent: Thursday, 03 February 2022 11:23 PM
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Ex- Tor devs
>On 2/3/22 22:06, lolwut wrote:
>> *That* is how men handl
-Original Message-
From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of
Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0
Sent: Thursday, 03 February 2022 11:27 PM
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Ex- Tor devs
>On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 23:06:10 -0500
>"lolwut" wrot
On 2/3/22 22:06, lolwut wrote:
> *That* is how men handled things on the wild, free, and chaotic
> expanse that is cyberspace.
That's the law of the jungle, analogous to two cavemen banging each
other with the equivalent of the biggest clubs they can find until one
dies surrenders.
I'd like to
-Original Message-
From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of
Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0
Sent: Thursday, 03 February 2022 10:50 PM
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Ex- Tor devs
>On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 21:20:03 -0600
>"Shawn K. Quinn"
-Original Message-
From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of
Shawn K. Quinn
Sent: Thursday, 03 February 2022 10:21 PM
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Ex- Tor devs
>On 2/3/22 20:38, lolwut wrote:
>> This is one of the least c
-Original Message-
From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of
Shawn K. Quinn
Sent: Thursday, 03 February 2022 10:20 PM
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Ex- Tor devs
>On 2/3/22 21:16, lolwut wrote:
>> No, you're wrong here; I woul
On 2/3/22 20:38, lolwut wrote:
> This is one of the least cypherpunk things I have ever read on this list.
> Why the hell are you even here, Shawn?
Because the moderator hasn't removed me yet.
--
Shawn K. Quinn
http://www.rantroulette.com
http://www.skqrecordquest.com
On 2/3/22 20:51, lolwut wrote:
> Meanwhile, you were the one who advocated for getting law enforcement
> and the government involved over something as innocuous as ban
> evasion.
Ban evasion for the purpose of continuing to post off-topic garbage to
an online forum (email list), so effectively
-Original Message-
From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of
Shawn K. Quinn
Sent: Wednesday, 02 February 2022 9:07 PM
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Ex- Tor devs
[snip]
>If you are so stupid as to believe this I don't know what e
-Original Message-
From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of
Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0
Sent: Wednesday, 02 February 2022 6:32 PM
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Ex- Tor devs
[snip]
> Shawn K. Quinn : "To infiltrate an e-m
/services/speech to the public, could have more
basis for blocking than the tor fora which hypocritically
claims to be for open free speech and providing such
things in the public interest... that requires high free
speech to even come close to succeeding on such goal.
Saying that you have public fora
On 2/2/22 20:21, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> you are a government agent because you advocate all kinds of
> government crimes. It doesn't matter if you get directly paid and are
> listed on their payroll or are paid by 'indirect' means. And even if
> you didn't get any benefit, you would still
On 2/2/22 19:56, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
>
>
> quinn wrote :
>> I support the Tor Project taking legal action against any such
>> offenders if that becomes necessary
>
> quinn wrote :
>> There was no mention of murder in that message, and I despise
>>
On 2/2/22 19:13, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> quinn, another cookie cutter US government agent.
Again, false.
In case you missed it: I DO NOT NOW, NOR HAVE I EVER, WORKED FOR ANY
GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
If this fixation of yours that I'm somehow working for the government
wasn't so sad, it
He didn't like his old coworkers' code skills! LOL
he told some of them (Tor devs) he didn't even trust a dinner plan. Now he says
he's not a Tor employee?LOL
He's just one of the winners of wealth by deceiving people
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-June/058796.html
Don't worry, she worked on Google. Ups now he.And he's making a fortune.
Firstly Tor now Google…
It's not hard to guess which department he's working in. He didn't like his old
coworkers' code skills! LOL
It never surprised me
https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/
Is Tor Trustworthy and Safe?
December 14, 2021 By Sven Taylor — [246]48 Comments
[247]Tor safe[248]Tor safe
There is a lot of misinformation being promoted in various privacy circles
about Tor. This article will examine some
i had a friend who worked on the Tor project a long time ago. Tor blocked me
after the team leader of the Tor project received information from me.
The Tor project is not open to criticism. They're also trying to silence the
voices that speak the truth.
Açık Paz, Oca 16, 2022 11:25, grarpamp
More from the random internet...
https://darknetlive.com/
https://www.csoonline.com/article/2228873/no-conspiracy-theory-needed-tor-created-for-u-s-gov-t-spying.html
https://v.redd.it/1qic50pg7i581
https://i.redd.it/kou9kok2oiu71.png
"
DanAinge to umfuld:
https://twitter.com/sea
https://yasha.substack.com/p/signal-is-a-government-op
https://yasha.substack.com/p/spy-funded-privacy-tools-like-signal
"Tor Stinks -- NSA"
Links in original/archive
Signal is a government op
Signal was created and funded by a CIA spinoff. It is not your friend.
Yasha Levine
https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/944-Tor-0day-Snowflake.html
https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/categories/19-Tor
Tuesday, 21 December 2021
Back in 2020, I wrote nine blog entries about Tor that covered a wide
range of vulnerabilities. Many of them were well-known
comments with valuable references from grarpamp
the availability of webseeds in one of these torrents was quite helpful.
haven't looked at the content.
>>> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:A6EF4D336F11BC502BB76006D669E695C959BE79
> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DB37E82521500BEE7570F97479225D825B0598DB
If people want people using anonymous overlay exit networks such as tor to
be able to participate in and perhaps support bittorrent clouds, they have
> How can you know the extent of possibilities, the wrongness of
> plans, when you cannot see, read, discuss or post such things,
> because this list is censored, not least from embarassing topics,
> just like Russia does. Shame.
>
> "Tor Stinks -- NSA"
As you ca
tor tor tor the onion router that replaced all the others except i2p
and other things.
not all my crazy posts to this list have been labeled that. here's
something: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/087756.html
tor has a padding infrastructure!
lots of discussion about
when you cannot see, read, discuss or post such things,
because this list is censored, not least from embarassing topics,
just like Russia does. Shame.
"Tor Stinks -- NSA"
https://thehackernews.com/2021/12/russia-blocks-tor-privacy-service-in.html
On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 7:07 PM jim bell wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 1:46 PM, zeynepaydogan
> wrote:
>
> >Don’t use Tor. It does not provide anonymity. The Tor network transmits
> your information directly to the CIA. Someone I used to know worked there.
> He t
On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 1:46 PM, zeynepaydogan
wrote:
>Don’t use Tor. It does not provide anonymity. The Tor network transmits your
>information directly to the CIA. Someone I used to know worked there. He then
>found a high-status job on Google.LOL
5, 2021 20:03, jim b
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