Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread James A. Donald
On 2017-05-01 10:58, \0xDynamite wrote: How does anarchy provide the high-level of organization needed to produce a car? From ore, to smelting steel, to engineering, to molding, to paints, batteries, upholstery and textiles, etc? Anarcho socialists and anarcho communists have provided vague

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 06:34:09AM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 07:29:53PM -0400, John Newman wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 07:35:03PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: > [...] > > > one tape has more Buddha on it, the one with backup of formatted drive > > > or the one that

[RUS] 4 Russian territorial disputes sans hostility

2017-04-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
The dominant Western MSM narrative of "must fear the Russians" is of course bollocks, and as states go, modern Russia is more diplomatic, calm and practical than most. Z 4 Russian territorial disputes that have not resulted in hostility

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 07:29:53PM -0400, John Newman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 07:35:03PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: [...] > > one tape has more Buddha on it, the one with backup of formatted drive > > or the one that have been laid over degausser for a year? > > Haha :) I keep 15m

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread juan
On Mon, 1 May 2017 12:20:19 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Humans have this funny habit of organising themselves, through > conversation into action, to meet actual needs or desires. "Social > animals" and all.. > > Seriously, the problem is not, has never been and never

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread John Newman
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:58 PM, \0xDynamite wrote: >>> This seems like a lame question, but What is the value of the State? >> >> Centralisation of power. > > You can have a socialist state without centralization. > >> A sense of safety/security for sheeple. > > But

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 12:58:31AM +, \0xDynamite wrote: > >> This seems like a lame question, but What is the value of the State? > > > > Centralisation of power. > > You can have a socialist state without centralization. You're presuming value in "socialist state". When I said "one of the

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread juan
On Mon, 1 May 2017 01:08:34 + "\\0xDynamite" wrote: > >> How does anarchy provide the high-level of organization needed to > >> produce a car? From ore, to smelting steel, to engineering, to > >> molding, to paints, batteries, upholstery and textiles, etc? > > > >

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread \0xDynamite
>> How does anarchy provide the high-level of organization needed to >> produce a car? From ore, to smelting steel, to engineering, to >> molding, to paints, batteries, upholstery and textiles, etc? > > are you trolling or what? Are you as ignorant as your question > suggests you are,

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread juan
On Mon, 1 May 2017 00:58:31 + "\\0xDynamite" wrote: > > How does anarchy provide the high-level of organization needed to > produce a car? From ore, to smelting steel, to engineering, to > molding, to paints, batteries, upholstery and textiles, etc? are

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread \0xDynamite
On 5/1/17, \0xDynamite wrote: >>> This seems like a lame question, but What is the value of the State? >> >> Centralisation of power. > > You can have a socialist state without centralization. > >> A sense of safety/security for sheeple. > > But the state also makes

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread \0xDynamite
>> This seems like a lame question, but What is the value of the State? > > Centralisation of power. You can have a socialist state without centralization. > A sense of safety/security for sheeple. But the state also makes insecurity: bigger wars, for example. >> Without a State, would we

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 11:37:06PM +, \0xDynamite wrote: > This seems like a lame question, but What is the value of the State? Centralisation of power. A sense of safety/security for sheeple. Touted ideals by the state which are difficult to claim/exercise because of the state, i.e. self

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread juan
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 23:37:06 + "\\0xDynamite" wrote: > This seems like a lame question, but What is the value of the State? pretty valuable, for statists. > Do activists require a State (defined as a codifed system of > governance)?

What is the value of the State?

2017-04-30 Thread \0xDynamite
This seems like a lame question, but What is the value of the State? Do activists require a State (defined as a codifed system of governance)? Without a State, would we have electronics? Radio? Computers? Mass Transit? Bikes? And if we need a State, what form should it take? Marxos

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread John Newman
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 07:35:03PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 01:00:00PM -0400, John Newman wrote: > [...] > > > ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** > > > ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** > > > **

thepiratebay.org behind cloudflare

2017-04-30 Thread juan
...looks as if the whole 'internet' is already owned by cloudflare? It's mildly interesting because it shows that it's rather easy to route most of the world's traffic through a single system - contrary to all the bullshit about 'decentralization'

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 05:42:29PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:43:23 +0200 > Tomasz Rola wrote: > > > > If you do not mind, it could be nice to write names of countries in > > consistent manner. Either as "US", "Russia", "Finland" and "Poland" - > > or as "us",

Re: Mesh Networks: Recent Commentary

2017-04-30 Thread \0xDynamite
That's some good material. I think I figured out a decent architecture. You could make a multi-layered backbone with the top layer operating at about 4000W to reach transceivers at the global level. I think 5 layers should be sufficient. Each would operate at a lower power levels until you

Re: This Carboni person is not on the up and up

2017-04-30 Thread juan
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:33:19 -0700 Ryan Carboni wrote: > Well, The Intercept is currently an arm of the NSA, declassifying NSA > newsletters about great NSA accomplishments. So Glenn Greenwald's > word does carry some weight in some circles, not sure which though. >

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread juan
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:43:23 +0200 Tomasz Rola wrote: > If you do not mind, it could be nice to write names of countries in > consistent manner. Either as "US", "Russia", "Finland" and "Poland" - > or as "us", "russia", "finland" and "poland". I think it's a bit too

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-30 Thread John Newman
> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:13 PM, grarpamp wrote: > > Shims are fine for hacks, but few are that. > > qmail has an "installer", but the source needs hacked to properly > [confine] install and run anywhere other than djb's pet /var/qmail . I was going to recommend netqmail,

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 01:00:00PM -0400, John Newman wrote: [...] > > ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** > > ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** > > ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** > >

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread John Newman
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 05:43:23PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:42:36AM -0300, juan wrote: > > -- > Regards, > Tomasz Rola > > -- > ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** > ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home

Mesh Networks: Recent Commentary

2017-04-30 Thread grarpamp
https://ask.slashdot.org/story/17/04/29/2134234/ask-slashdot-could-we-build-a-global-wireless-mesh-network https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13102698 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6274455 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7247600

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-30 Thread grarpamp
Shims are fine for hacks, but few are that. qmail has an "installer", but the source needs hacked to properly [confine] install and run anywhere other than djb's pet /var/qmail .

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:42:36AM -0300, juan wrote: [...] > > haha - funny. Well, not really. You present a false choice, > assuming one has to choose between garbage from the US > military, or nothing. > > Also, I always wondered at a woman from poland being a >

Re: This Carboni person is not on the up and up

2017-04-30 Thread Razer
On 04/29/2017 09:07 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > This Laura Poitras is apparently famous for being repeatedly searched > at airports. Maybe it is as what she says, that she didn't pull a Jane > Fonda, but instead she just hung out with a bad crowd in the wrong > neighborhood in a warzone. > > I

Re: JustSecurity: "Today we learned that those 2011 (Sec 702) safeguards did not work"

2017-04-30 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 07:57:20PM -0700, Razer wrote: > Which is why I suggest attaching a password protected zip file of an > already 2x encrypted pic of a lulzcat to every email. > > Feed the five-eyed beast garbage until it explodes. > Looong ago there was something similar: "Jam Echelon".

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread juan
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:25:38 +0700 Jason McVetta wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness > wrote: > > > Homogeneity of targets, makes for easier 0-day 0wnage of said > > targets, when one such target becomes of particular interest.

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-30 Thread Avinash Sonawane
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > PINE users from 40 years ago can't seem to give it up, so that works > for some folks - alpine these days I think. Thanks. I'll take a look. > But if you want some really small and light, and still pty based, > Emacs

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 02:40:01AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > qmail had a shitty license, but it was the shit till world > moved on and it went unmaintained. And still probably > nobody offers even the obvious basic TLS IPv6 Unix pipeline? What's wrong with socat / ssh? netcat allowed me to rescue

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 01:25:38PM +0700, Jason McVetta wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > Homogeneity of targets, makes for easier 0-day 0wnage of said > > targets, when one such target becomes of particular interest. > > > > I, for one,

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Jason McVetta
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Homogeneity of targets, makes for easier 0-day 0wnage of said > targets, when one such target becomes of particular interest. > I, for one, run an OS that I wrote myself in TI-BASIC, on hardware salvaged from the

Re: This Poitras person is not on the up and up

2017-04-30 Thread Steve Phillips
This Laura Poitras is apparently famous for being repeatedly searched at airports. Laura Poitras is a documentary filmmaker who did such a good job of making it clear of what the human impact of the Iraq war has actually been, and such a good job of humanizing this atrocity, that she was

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 06:55:25AM -0300, Juan wrote: > qubes garbage is bankrolled by > > "Open Technology Fund (OTF) - a United States > government-funded program of Radio Free Asia," > > https://www.qubes-os.org/partners/ Homogeneity of targets, makes for easier