Re: What everyone is saying about mobile OS security is wrong

[Steve Kinney]

On 03/18/2018 12:04 AM, Ryan Carboni wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-android-security-report-2017-we-read-it-so-you-dont-have-to-and-here-are-the-takeaways/
> Google Play has given Google more control over security. Like Apple's
> App Store, one central app distribution point gives Google more security
> control. Google noted that Android devices that only download apps from
> Google Play are nine times less likely to get a PHA than devices from
> other sources. Google Play Protect protects almost two billion devices.

Unspoken question:  Security against what adversary?

Certainly not Google itself, or the numerous State and Corporate
agencies Google partners with.

:o)






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What everyone is saying about mobile OS security is wrong

[Ryan Carboni]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-android-security-report-2017-we-read-it-so-you-dont-have-to-and-here-are-the-takeaways/
Google Play has given Google more control over security. Like Apple's App
Store, one central app distribution point gives Google more security
control. Google noted that Android devices that only download apps from
Google Play are nine times less likely to get a PHA than devices from other
sources. Google Play Protect protects almost two billion devices.

But is the above precisely correct?

https://source.android.com/security/reports/Google_Android_Security_2017_Report_Final.pdf
While all Android devices benefit from protections built into the platform,
Android devices with Google Play services have an additional layer of
defense to keep them safe. Google protects these devices right out of the
box with Google Play Protect, our built-in device, data, and apps security
scanning technology.


No it is not, Google Play apps are scanned using a cloud anti-virus program.

What else is special about Google Play?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/23/how-google-controls-androids-open-source
Manufacturers can be refused a licence if they do not meet Google's
requirements. Google does not charge for a GMS licence, but any company
producing an Android device will need a certificate from an authorised
testing facility in order to apply for the licence. That often incurs fees.

One source told the Guardian that the fee varies and is negotiated on a
case-by-case basis, with one example costing $40,000 for a batch of at
least 30,000 devices. A separate source said that in another deal, a
testing facility quoted $75,000 to test 100,000 devices.


And rather recently, Joseph Cox said in tweets within hours of each other
that the US government shutdown a phone maker that could only sell secure
Blackberries to drug dealers and that a judge signed a warrant for any
Google location enabled apps. For some reason, the Tor Project recieves
more free PR than any business providing a phone remotely resembling
anything that is desired by civil libertarians.

You people don't notice anything. At all. You people never accomplish
anything useful you want, ever.

It is extremely trivial for Google to make Android more secure, create an
app anti-virus API, require security updates within one month of the issue
being discovered for Google Play access, etc.


And the question about whether devices should be rooted or not by the user
is pretty simple. An unrooted device is a production environment designed
to be secure by hundreds of people, and the occasional bug bounty. A rooted
device is a development environment whose security is owed to anyone with
physical access to it.

Re: Bum who snitched off Chelsea Manning dead at 37.

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 07:16:05AM -0700, g2s wrote:
>  Original message From: grarpamp  Date: 
> 3/17/18  3:45 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: 
> Bum who snitched off Chelsea Manning dead at 37. 
> > Regarding subject...
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/84x87d/hacker_adrian_lamo_who_turned_wikileaks_chelsea/
> 
> 
> It's interesting to note Adrian Lamo died on the 50th anniversary of the My 
> Lai massacre.
> About the whistleblower in that incident, a recon helo pilot named Hugh 
> Thompson Jr. He didn't just blow the whistle, he crammed it down their 
> throats. 
> Ten years ago today I posted this about his actions at My Lai that caused 
> news that may have been the turning point for mainstream American's view of 
> the Vietnam War.
> Thompson turned to Colburn and Andreotta (...his door gunners, manning M60 
> machine guns. ) and told them that if the Americans began shooting at the 
> villagers or him, they should fire their M60 machine guns at the Americans:[4]
> 
> Y'all cover me! If these bastards open up on me or these people, you open up 
> on them. Promise me!"
> More, with links:
> http://razedbywolves.blogspot.com/2009/11/40-years-ago-today-cleveland-plain.html

Thank u - folks not up to speed with My Lai need to be informed.

Re: Bum who snitched off Chelsea Manning dead at 37.

[John Young]

A military intelligence officer, Timothy Webster, confidant of Lamo, 
insisted Manning be reported. Both Webster and Lamo (an ex-con) 
feared being charged with aiding Manning, facing greater punishment 
than Manning due to each's having a hammer overhead.


Manning made a bad choice in who to trust -- WikiLeaks hardly better 
than Lamo and Webster in protecting its own interest. Asymmetry in 
leaking -- leaker held hostage, a la Edward Snowden, loses to 
privileged publisher -- is the Catch 22. And why so many hackers (and 
leakers) cut deals with authorities to snitch. Not unlike some here 
and the White House who flog for Putin-grade authoritarianism.


Leakers are not to be trusted any more than hackers, so many are 
plants, ego-driven, unscrupulous. Silence is golden when monetized 
free speech, freedom of the press, legal representation, have become 
entrapment.


At 10:16 AM 3/17/2018, you wrote:


 Original message 
From: grarpamp 
Date: 3/17/18 3:45 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: Re: Bum who snitched off Chelsea Manning dead at 37.

Scumbags might expect to be counting their own
stitches sooner than later one way or another,
even if only from the stress.

XY helped show the murder of innocents and children...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelmEZe8whI
http://www.incidentinnewbaghdad.com/

"What happened then was not an isolated incident.
Stuff like that happens on a daily basis... kill
every motherfucker on the street"

Other innocents were tortured to death...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDc1hscfeQ


Speak freely, End war, Make love.



Regarding subject...
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/84x87d/hacker_adrian_lamo_who_turned_wikileaks_chelsea/


It's interesting to note Adrian Lamo died on the 50th anniversary of 
the My Lai massacre.


About the whistleblower in that incident, a recon helo pilot named 
Hugh Thompson Jr. He didn't just blow the whistle, he crammed it 
down their throats.


Ten years ago today I posted this about his actions at My Lai that 
caused news that may have been the turning point for mainstream 
American's view of the Vietnam War.


Thompson turned to Colburn and Andreotta (...his door gunners, 
manning M60 machine guns. ) and told them that if the Americans 
began shooting at the villagers or him, they should fire their M60 
machine guns at the Americans:[4]


Y'all cover me! If these bastards open up on me or these people, you 
open up on them. Promise me!"


More, with links:

http://razedbywolves.blogspot.com/2009/11/40-years-ago-today-cleveland-plain.html

Re: Bum who snitched off Chelsea Manning dead at 37.

[g2s]

 Original message From: grarpamp  Date: 
3/17/18  3:45 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Bum 
who snitched off Chelsea Manning dead at 37. 
Scumbags might expect to be counting their own
stitches sooner than later one way or another,
even if only from the stress.

XY helped show the murder of innocents and children...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelmEZe8whI
http://www.incidentinnewbaghdad.com/

"What happened then was not an isolated incident.
Stuff like that happens on a daily basis... kill
every motherfucker on the street"

Other innocents were tortured to death...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDc1hscfeQ


Speak freely, End war, Make love.



Regarding subject...
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/84x87d/hacker_adrian_lamo_who_turned_wikileaks_chelsea/


It's interesting to note Adrian Lamo died on the 50th anniversary of the My Lai 
massacre.
About the whistleblower in that incident, a recon helo pilot named Hugh 
Thompson Jr. He didn't just blow the whistle, he crammed it down their throats. 
Ten years ago today I posted this about his actions at My Lai that caused news 
that may have been the turning point for mainstream American's view of the 
Vietnam War.
Thompson turned to Colburn and Andreotta (...his door gunners, manning M60 
machine guns. ) and told them that if the Americans began shooting at the 
villagers or him, they should fire their M60 machine guns at the Americans:[4]

Y'all cover me! If these bastards open up on me or these people, you open up on 
them. Promise me!"
More, with links:
http://razedbywolves.blogspot.com/2009/11/40-years-ago-today-cleveland-plain.html
 

Re: affirmative action success story

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 11:40:46PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Trigger warning, this is black humour for sure, so we really should
> not laugh at this story:
> 
> https://dailystormer.name/miami-pedestrian-bridge-collapses-at-least-six-dead/
> 
> At least affirmative action is working.
> 
> Note to self - do NOT walk on feminist bridges, you may be shouted
> down due to the white patriarchial male privilege, especially the
> white bit - so white feminist bridges? Yep, avoid them like the
> plague...
> 
> Feminists - bridging the gaps in society.


Oh, I guess there's been a bit of a backlash against that white
patriarchal ... maths. As in, seriously:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bp2FlAGVE0

The math issue is at 03:37 if you want to skip the court case against
racism - where certain stores are (this is SO racist!) locking up
"African American hair products" and requiring, shock horror, verbal
request from store clerk to open --locked-- cabinet, which has been
done due to the extraordinarily high rates of theft of these products
... by African Americans.

Dang, that really is racist man, I mean, you just can't run around in
the Huwaite patriarchy and lock things up - dese peeple need hare
products already!

Yu is operessing dem by stopping da products bin stolen‼

affirmative action success story

[Zenaan Harkness]

Trigger warning, this is black humour for sure, so we really should
not laugh at this story:

https://dailystormer.name/miami-pedestrian-bridge-collapses-at-least-six-dead/

At least affirmative action is working.

Note to self - do NOT walk on feminist bridges, you may be shouted
down due to the white patriarchial male privilege, especially the
white bit - so white feminist bridges? Yep, avoid them like the
plague...

Feminists - bridging the gaps in society.

Adrian Lamo RIP. 25% of hackers are snitches

[John Young]

Adrian Lamo RIP.
https://cryptome.org/0001/lamo-denies.htm

25% of hackers are snitches, claims Emmanuel Goldstein (2600)
https://cryptome.org/0001/wikileaks-snitch.htm

Re: Bum who snitched off Chelsea Manning dead at 37.

[grarpamp]

Scumbags might expect to be counting their own
stitches sooner than later one way or another,
even if only from the stress.

XY helped show the murder of innocents and children...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelmEZe8whI
http://www.incidentinnewbaghdad.com/

"What happened then was not an isolated incident.
Stuff like that happens on a daily basis... kill
every motherfucker on the street"

Other innocents were tortured to death...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDc1hscfeQ


Speak freely, End war, Make love.



Regarding subject...
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/84x87d/hacker_adrian_lamo_who_turned_wikileaks_chelsea/

US 2018 Election Hijacked: Sybil Candidacies Of The Mil / Intel / Shadow Gov

[grarpamp]

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html
https://icwatch.wikileaks.org/

An extraordinary number of former intelligence and military operatives
from the CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Department
are seeking nomination as Democratic candidates for Congress in the
2018 midterm elections. The potential influx of military-intelligence
personnel into the legislature has no precedent in US political
history.

https://t.co/jlLhBHSKqF

Global Targeted Individuals Survey

[grarpamp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62s3FinAoC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz44nifL-dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUlSrm144Hs
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=global+targeted+individuals

Recently, thousands of people around the world are claiming to be
having the exact same terrifying experience. They all report the same
symptoms: hearing operator voices in their heads, suffering from
‘electronic torture’ and being subject to organised stalking - they
call themselves ‘Targeted Individuals’. A number have attempted many
things to relieve their pain - from living life on the run to
surgically removing their own flesh because they believe it’s
implanted with microchips.

VICE follows a growing community who say they are being targeted as
part of a government programme that is harassing and controlling them
using hidden technology.

A Good American - 2015 Whistleblower Documentary

[grarpamp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=666wsDcoNrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zT1LStaJ14

Kirk Wiebe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FREAgcBhsXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86HSRTGtkqE

Silenced - 2014 Whistleblower Documentary by JSpione

[grarpamp]

Full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM490tU70S4
Prop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE7bs8xjeYo