Re: The difference between moderation and censorship [was Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate...]

[Xer0Dynamite]

>   Tell us quinn what to do with people like you, who post very
>   stupid 'defenses' of CENSORSHIP in an allegedly
>   crypto-anarchist mailing list?

He's differentiating between floods of off-topic material which acts
to censor real discussion by hiding it in noise vs. removing
discussion which simply doesn't agree with some (explicit or implicit)
preferential view.

You have to admit that it's different, si?

\0x

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

[Xer0Dynamite]

>> Show me the Law(s) that makes it so.
>
> Guns make it so. Law enforcement owns about 99.9% of all the military
> style weaponry.
>[...]
> We tried voting.
> We tried protesting.

1) The protesting you've tried hasn't utilized the strategy of law,
only appeals to emotions.
2) The government still relies on money from its citizens, if people
don't give it money it won't be able to pay its military to shoot its
own citizens, or buy the bullets in which to shoot
them.
3) There is the DSM from psychiatry in which you can CLINICALLY
diagnose America with several pathologies.  This is enough to win a
court case about giving money to the federal government.

Anyway, you apparently still haven't thought about what I linked to
you.  It gets very tiring re-explaining myself (I've been assaulted
four times already by the Establishment and abandoned those who are
perfectly content with their coffee-shop lives).

\0x


>
> This is a reasonable time to start with the armed insurrection stuff.
> Your puny AK-47 is useless. So, we need to have at least some of our
> volunteer resistance show up with Stinger missiles, some anti-aircraft
> batteries, maybe a submarine or two?
>
> Oh, you can't afford that?

Re:

[Xer0Dynamite]

Show me the Law(s) that makes it so.

\0x

On 9/21/16, Razer <ray...@riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 09/21/2016 11:20 AM, Xer0Dynamite wrote:
>> Like Lessig's "Code is Law".   LAW is also CODE:  it's the Operating
>> System for your Government.  Presently:  bloated and with a few design
>> flaws.   Fortunately, it's Open Source.  Muhahhhwhahaaa
>>
>> \0x
>>
>
>
> But the hardware it runs on, the the Judicial-Industrial complex and
> it's activating mechanism the Law Enforcement-Industrial Complex, are
> closed source.
>
> "Muhahhhwhahaaa"
>
> Rr
>

[no subject]

[Xer0Dynamite]

Like Lessig's "Code is Law".   LAW is also CODE:  it's the Operating
System for your Government.  Presently:  bloated and with a few design
flaws.   Fortunately, it's Open Source.  Muhahhhwhahaaa

\0x

Re: Quantum Computers

[Xer0Dynamite]

On 9/6/16, jim bell  wrote:
> https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-06/quantum-computers-are-coming-the-world-might-not-be-ready?cmpid=yhoo.headline=yahoo
>
> [partial quote]
> Quantum mechanics, Carl Sagan once observed, is so strange that "common
> sense is almost useless in approaching it." Scientists still don't
> understand exactly why matter behaves as it does at the quantum level. Yet
> they're getting better at exploiting its peculiar dynamics -- in ways that
> may soon upend the technology business.

Don't buy this line.  People don't understand Quantum Mechanics
because they believe in Chemistry.  It's not at all hard to
understand.  The only thing that is somewhat difficult is
understanding the metaphysics of the scale of things.  Don't be fooled
by all of the math because there isn't any, apart from the
nomenclature developed with QC.

\0x

Re: FOR once and FOR ALL

[Xer0Dynamite]

Oh, and another thing.  Just so that we're all clear of the utter
stupidity of it all (even though it's mentioned in the links I gave
prior):  the Internet Revolution was co-opted into the same fucking
forces as capitalism in America:  GLAM and COMMERCE.  Did you notice
that the simple O(N^2) value generation of the Net is co-opted into a
mere O(N log N) value by network large site co-opting user attention
into data silos to hook them in there for advertising revenue?  The
Net's value originally (back in the late 90's) was scaling value in
the order of Reed's Law:  super-exponential value generation (O(2^N))
by the addition of creating arbitrary groupings (like this cypherpunks
mailing list) on top of the otherwise N^2 value of a effectively
fully-connected network.

So, graph it out:  an 2^N curve versus a N log N curve and watch as
the values of N go above 100.

THAT is the political battle that THIS list should worry about as it
is/was about the Internet Revolution.

Now please give me a report on what you learned in the four texts I
linked to you.


\0x

On 9/3/16, Xer0Dynamite <dreamingforw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at
>>> that site.  Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US.
>>> Which is it?
>>
>> While this may be true, and human / civilization may or may not yet be
>> developed enough to be able to think or transcend any given thing,
>
> Then let me tell you:  you didn't come from apes -- nobody did.  The
> fact that there are "DNA" similarities are because there was a human
> BEFORE mammals existed.  The reason there is continual turmoil in the
> Middle East is because SCIENCE is trying to ERADICATE their TRUTHS.
> The all-seeing-eye is not from the same human stock as those of the
> West.  In fact, there are at least THREE genii of men:  homo, hetero,
> and amphi sapiens.  (Which is probably why they started trying to tack
> on a SECOND sapiens onto homo:  homo sapiens sapiens).  We are NOT
> homo (for those of us who come from mothers).
>
>> just going on about some topic like polical schools of thought, without
>> bringing any outcomes back to test and bear on what your're trying to
>> transcend,
>
> Well, now you have it.
>
>> is offtopic, and isn't going to get you anywhere enlightened anytime
>> soon.
>
> Better?
>
> \0x
>

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

[Xer0Dynamite]

> We are "anarchists" and we do what we want.

Anarchy doesn't scale.  What will you expect with billion+ people
without societal structure?  Watch World War Z and then Book of Eli to
find out.

The future will probably be some mix of Apocalypse and Enlightenment,
with the latter growing over the former.  Some Judgement will happen,
but unfortunately or not, it didn't come from the
technologically-minded -- that Revolution got ***co-opted*** by CSS,
Javascript, and Node.js.  Now collectively called "systemd" (in my
warped mind).

So how do the techno-literati take back the Net, just as the masses
need to take back the Law?  For that, find the Business Plan at
hackerspaces.org and read Zen Code.

You may be seated,

\0xDyamite

FOR once and FOR ALL

[Xer0Dynamite]

Let's get this straight so all you can shut up or put up:  There are
two futures: one of an Apocalypse or one of Enlightenment.  There are
four prophesies (two religious and two mystical/new age) and two
purely rational arguments why a dramatic and planetary shift MUST and
WILL happen in one form or another.

All this in-fighting is worthless.  If you want the good future it
will take Truths that you do not yet have or Righteousness for those
who have NO voice in the world.  These groups are right in America, no
need to think they're far off and inaccessible.

The experts have been wrong -- all of them.  Whether it's medical
doctors (who have never made a sane nor healthy world) or scientists
(who have not secured a safer future and have wrapped themselves in a
elaborate narrative exactly reminiscent of the Allegory of Plato's
Cave) or religion (who have never even been held to their own creeds
like protecting Earth and Do Not Kill), the failure also lies on all
the MASSES (you and me) who have allowed this clusterfuck to happen
and continue everyday.  You are using your smartphone and sipping
coffee to browse the web and be cool, right?

All these petty issues like bitcoin and encryption, or occupy and gay
rights are so far down the spectrum as to be laughable.  The value of
cypherpunks is tools for greater activism or personal development, not
hiding from the State like little peons, but TRANSCENDING it.

Read Hack the Law at hackerspaces wiki or New World Order, also at
that site.  Either the future is made BY us, or it is destroyed by US.
Which is it?

\0xDynamite