Re: ROTF! Techie Hipster Soirée invaded at BurnTheMan
On 9/5/16 7:19 PM, Razer wrote: > > On 09/05/2016 06:53 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> Have you been to Burning Man? Do you understand it? > Yup. It was dead after the 3rd or 4th year like most events that occur > annually. Mavericks surf contest did quite well for itself until it > became a nationally known event. Now it's trash. The Rainbow Gathering > was probably the longest standing before it became decrepit. It still > happens every year. There's NO ADMISSION FEE, and it is truly Anarchic. > I know mostly the younger set that attends Burning Man. Mostly affluent > college students... They leave their anarchy and 'gifting' onsite. It > DOES NOT become part of their day to day ethic at all. It evolves. The 60+' yacht just kills me. Can't wait to ride on the 747 if it is there next year. They own land nearby now. It will be interesting to see how they evolve to deal with the attention. >> On 9/5/16 6:27 PM, Razer wrote: >>> "Response to raid on White Ocean zone split with some describing it as >>> an attempt to reclaim event from the ‘parasite class’" >> The "hooligans" are lucky that the purveyors of the camp did employ an >> anarchistic response. >> > Why? was the other option for the techie hipsters to call in their GEO > security teams with attack dogs? I wouldn't put it past them. With unlimited funding, how many do you suppose had martial arts, boxing, wrestling, football, and/or military training? And then there is the funding for professional security. >>> Parasite Class... A good description Marx would smile at of someone >>> making 60K a year to write apis or network engineer the lip syncing of >>> executive conference calls. >> How is a developer or other engineer part of the 'parasite class'? > Not all. I named a couple of occupations that serve no useful purpose to > humanity though. The Riseup birds aren't in that category, nor, in the > larger sense than torproject, is ioerror and folks like him (Stewart > Brand, not technically a coder but...). Not many left now, and the end > result? Not much innovation. Just polishing apples that have been on the > shelf for years. flashier graphics, miniaturization, speed, but that's > kind of it. It all came to a screeching halt after streaming video blew > the marketing end of the internet wide open in a latter day "Gold Rush" > for marketers. It was inevitable. Just like TV went from information > tool to an entertainment medium, so went the intertubz for 99% of it's > users today. > > People interested in money create money no matter what industry they're > in and the product is just the vehicle to do that. Money is a lousy sole > driving force for development and innovation. Depends on how money is spent. It is, in some sense, voting for outcomes. For a long time, marketing and branding could largely control consumers. It's not so deterministic anymore. That could get better. And more recently, more people sometimes now invest much more intelligently. I make choices to try to push things in a positive direction. > If those guys were making the same wage as a bagboy at a grocery store > do you suppose they'd be coding? Coders used to make supermarket worker > wages, never complained, worked themselves to literal exhaustion and > burned their eyes out on Green-Black/Yellow-Black dot matrix monitors, > and they loved it. Because it was about the code (hardware, whatever). > Not the money. Some would. After buying my first computer with lawn mowing money, I was a bagboy at a grocery store. Then, for a couple years, I worked for $50/wk., which worked out to about $2/hr. or less, so that I could buy, sell, program, and fix computers. And I was married with a baby. At the time, UPS drivers were starting at $15+/hr. > > Rr > >> And 60K/yr. is very low unless you are just out of college (or a few >> years into skipping college), depending on location. >> Damien Gayle @damiengayle Monday 5 September 2016 07.02 EDT The organisers of an exclusive camp at Nevada’s Burning Man festival have denounced “hooligans” whom they accuse of raiding their camp, stealing items, gluing trailer doors shut and cutting the power. Pershing County sheriff’s office was called to the festival to investigate after the night-time raid targeting the White Ocean camp as it hosted its “white party”, where ravers dress in white and dance all night to techno music. Its organisers wrote on Facebook: “Guys, I think what happened last night should be known on social media … A band of hooligans raided our camp, stole from us, pulled and sliced all of our electrical lines leaving us with no refrigeration and wasting our food and glued our trailer doors shut, vandalised most of our camping infrastructure, dumped 200 gallons of potable water flooding our camp.” Dust to dust: mourning the dead at Burning Man Read more The
Re: ROTF! Techie Hipster Soirée invaded at BurnTheMan
On 09/05/2016 06:53 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > Have you been to Burning Man? Do you understand it? Yup. It was dead after the 3rd or 4th year like most events that occur annually. Mavericks surf contest did quite well for itself until it became a nationally known event. Now it's trash. The Rainbow Gathering was probably the longest standing before it became decrepit. It still happens every year. There's NO ADMISSION FEE, and it is truly Anarchic. I know mostly the younger set that attends Burning Man. Mostly affluent college students... They leave their anarchy and 'gifting' onsite. It DOES NOT become part of their day to day ethic at all. > > On 9/5/16 6:27 PM, Razer wrote: >> "Response to raid on White Ocean zone split with some describing it as >> an attempt to reclaim event from the ‘parasite class’" > > The "hooligans" are lucky that the purveyors of the camp did employ an > anarchistic response. > Why? was the other option for the techie hipsters to call in their GEO security teams with attack dogs? I wouldn't put it past them. >> Parasite Class... A good description Marx would smile at of someone >> making 60K a year to write apis or network engineer the lip syncing of >> executive conference calls. > > How is a developer or other engineer part of the 'parasite class'? Not all. I named a couple of occupations that serve no useful purpose to humanity though. The Riseup birds aren't in that category, nor, in the larger sense than torproject, is ioerror and folks like him (Stewart Brand, not technically a coder but...). Not many left now, and the end result? Not much innovation. Just polishing apples that have been on the shelf for years. flashier graphics, miniaturization, speed, but that's kind of it. It all came to a screeching halt after streaming video blew the marketing end of the internet wide open in a latter day "Gold Rush" for marketers. It was inevitable. Just like TV went from information tool to an entertainment medium, so went the intertubz for 99% of it's users today. People interested in money create money no matter what industry they're in and the product is just the vehicle to do that. Money is a lousy sole driving force for development and innovation. If those guys were making the same wage as a bagboy at a grocery store do you suppose they'd be coding? Coders used to make supermarket worker wages, never complained, worked themselves to literal exhaustion and burned their eyes out on Green-Black/Yellow-Black dot matrix monitors, and they loved it. Because it was about the code (hardware, whatever). Not the money. Rr > > And 60K/yr. is very low unless you are just out of college (or a few > years into skipping college), depending on location. > >> >>> >>> Damien Gayle >>> @damiengayle >>> >>> Monday 5 September 2016 07.02 EDT >>> >>> >>> The organisers of an exclusive camp at Nevada’s Burning Man festival have >>> denounced “hooligans” whom they accuse of raiding their camp, stealing >>> items, gluing trailer doors shut and cutting the power. >>> >>> Pershing County sheriff’s office was called to the festival to investigate >>> after the night-time raid targeting the White Ocean camp as it hosted its >>> “white party”, where ravers dress in white and dance all night to techno >>> music. >>> >>> Its organisers wrote on Facebook: “Guys, I think what happened last night >>> should be known on social media … A band of hooligans raided our camp, >>> stole from us, pulled and sliced all of our electrical lines leaving us >>> with no refrigeration and wasting our food and glued our trailer doors >>> shut, vandalised most of our camping infrastructure, dumped 200 gallons of >>> potable water flooding our camp.” >>> Dust to dust: mourning the dead at Burning Man >>> Read more >>> >>> The response from festival regulars has been split, with sympathy towards >>> the camp tempered by many who say that the “prank” on White Ocean, a closed >>> zone funded by tech entrepreneurs, was “taking burning man back from the >>> parasite class”. > > Some or all areas of a number of camps are effectively closed except to > members. > >>> >>> In recent years, Burning Man has transformed from an anarcho-hippie fire >>> ritual in San Francisco into a pricey end-of-summer romp in the Nevada >>> desert for 65,000 people. But with growth has come controversy around the >>> impact of big money. > > All of those 65-70K people have been transformed? That's sloppy writing. So get a job as a proofer or editor at the guardian... CopyNazi. > >>> >>> Participants at the three-decade old festival, which is based on an ethos >>> of co-creation and mutual self-reliance, traditionally all pitch in to >>> build the event. It is built around a radical “gifting” culture, where even >>> strangers who wander into a camp are supposed to be served; in turn, they >>> are expected to do the same for others. > > Where strangers wander into a camp's public service area, when open,
Re: ROTF! Techie Hipster Soirée invaded at BurnTheMan
Have you been to Burning Man? Do you understand it? On 9/5/16 6:27 PM, Razer wrote: > "Response to raid on White Ocean zone split with some describing it as > an attempt to reclaim event from the ‘parasite class’" The "hooligans" are lucky that the purveyors of the camp did employ an anarchistic response. > Parasite Class... A good description Marx would smile at of someone > making 60K a year to write apis or network engineer the lip syncing of > executive conference calls. How is a developer or other engineer part of the 'parasite class'? And 60K/yr. is very low unless you are just out of college (or a few years into skipping college), depending on location. > >> >> Damien Gayle >> @damiengayle >> >> Monday 5 September 2016 07.02 EDT >> >> >> The organisers of an exclusive camp at Nevada’s Burning Man festival have >> denounced “hooligans” whom they accuse of raiding their camp, stealing >> items, gluing trailer doors shut and cutting the power. >> >> Pershing County sheriff’s office was called to the festival to investigate >> after the night-time raid targeting the White Ocean camp as it hosted its >> “white party”, where ravers dress in white and dance all night to techno >> music. >> >> Its organisers wrote on Facebook: “Guys, I think what happened last night >> should be known on social media … A band of hooligans raided our camp, stole >> from us, pulled and sliced all of our electrical lines leaving us with no >> refrigeration and wasting our food and glued our trailer doors shut, >> vandalised most of our camping infrastructure, dumped 200 gallons of potable >> water flooding our camp.” >> Dust to dust: mourning the dead at Burning Man >> Read more >> >> The response from festival regulars has been split, with sympathy towards >> the camp tempered by many who say that the “prank” on White Ocean, a closed >> zone funded by tech entrepreneurs, was “taking burning man back from the >> parasite class”. Some or all areas of a number of camps are effectively closed except to members. >> >> In recent years, Burning Man has transformed from an anarcho-hippie fire >> ritual in San Francisco into a pricey end-of-summer romp in the Nevada >> desert for 65,000 people. But with growth has come controversy around the >> impact of big money. All of those 65-70K people have been transformed? That's sloppy writing. >> >> Participants at the three-decade old festival, which is based on an ethos of >> co-creation and mutual self-reliance, traditionally all pitch in to build >> the event. It is built around a radical “gifting” culture, where even >> strangers who wander into a camp are supposed to be served; in turn, they >> are expected to do the same for others. Where strangers wander into a camp's public service area, when open, if they have one, and are often served as the camp is able and willing. They aren't 'supposed to be served'. >> >> But as Burning Man has become more popular, it has become seen as an annual >> fixture for global elites who pay others to build them exclusive camps >> called “plug and plays”, which allow them to swoop in, turn on and drop out >> for a few days before returning to corporate life. Controversial, but hard to see how it is a big deal. It has some benefits too. > More @Guardian UK: > https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/sep/05/luxury-camp-at-burning-man-festival-targeted-by-hooligans sdw
Re: ROTF! Techie Hipster Soirée invaded at BurnTheMan
What's a feminists favorite music festival? Burning Man.
ROTF! Techie Hipster Soirée invaded at BurnTheMan
"Response to raid on White Ocean zone split with some describing it as an attempt to reclaim event from the ‘parasite class’" Parasite Class... A good description Marx would smile at of someone making 60K a year to write apis or network engineer the lip syncing of executive conference calls. > > > Damien Gayle > @damiengayle > > Monday 5 September 2016 07.02 EDT > > > The organisers of an exclusive camp at Nevada’s Burning Man festival have > denounced “hooligans” whom they accuse of raiding their camp, stealing items, > gluing trailer doors shut and cutting the power. > > Pershing County sheriff’s office was called to the festival to investigate > after the night-time raid targeting the White Ocean camp as it hosted its > “white party”, where ravers dress in white and dance all night to techno > music. > > Its organisers wrote on Facebook: “Guys, I think what happened last night > should be known on social media … A band of hooligans raided our camp, stole > from us, pulled and sliced all of our electrical lines leaving us with no > refrigeration and wasting our food and glued our trailer doors shut, > vandalised most of our camping infrastructure, dumped 200 gallons of potable > water flooding our camp.” > Dust to dust: mourning the dead at Burning Man > Read more > > The response from festival regulars has been split, with sympathy towards the > camp tempered by many who say that the “prank” on White Ocean, a closed zone > funded by tech entrepreneurs, was “taking burning man back from the parasite > class”. > > In recent years, Burning Man has transformed from an anarcho-hippie fire > ritual in San Francisco into a pricey end-of-summer romp in the Nevada desert > for 65,000 people. But with growth has come controversy around the impact of > big money. > > Participants at the three-decade old festival, which is based on an ethos of > co-creation and mutual self-reliance, traditionally all pitch in to build the > event. It is built around a radical “gifting” culture, where even strangers > who wander into a camp are supposed to be served; in turn, they are expected > to do the same for others. > > But as Burning Man has become more popular, it has become seen as an annual > fixture for global elites who pay others to build them exclusive camps called > “plug and plays”, which allow them to swoop in, turn on and drop out for a > few days before returning to corporate life. More @Guardian UK: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/sep/05/luxury-camp-at-burning-man-festival-targeted-by-hooligans
