Re: Stingrays in D.C.

2019-09-12 Thread grarpamp
On 9/12/19, John Young wrote: > One view is that counterspying far outweighs spying, that > spying is a minority feed for the majority gluttonous paranoriacs. Late cryptocurrency adoption by gluttonous gov com edu moons wealth of cypherpunks who will then outweigh the outweight of the counterspy

Re: Stingrays in D.C. - Stingrays in your backyard

2019-09-12 Thread John Young
Yep, and much of the counterespionage. At 02:00 PM 9/12/2019, you wrote: ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:50 PM, coderman wrote: > ... In some cases, the device might force every phone in range to drop to a 2G connection. This ma

Re: Stingrays in D.C.

2019-09-12 Thread John Young
Isn't it SOP to plant bogus devices/programs (land, water, space, online) and spooks (gov, com, edu, NGO, online) ubiquitously to camouflage the genuine? Leaking, boting, hacking, searching, freebeeing. TORing, encrypting (white, gray, black) prime smoke and mirrors. One view is that counterspy

Re: Stingrays in D.C. - Stingrays in your backyard

2019-09-12 Thread coderman
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:50 PM, coderman wrote: > ... In some cases, the device might force every phone in range to drop to a > 2G connection. This may still allow 911 calls to take place, but almost any > other form of communication will be impossibl

Re: Stingrays in D.C.

2019-09-12 Thread coderman
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:39 PM, Se7en wrote: > I expected Israel to do such a thing, however this is nothing new. A > 2017 study found that nearly every single embassy in the Washington DC > Area had Stingray Devices with the assumed goal of spying on m

Re: Stingrays in D.C.

2019-09-12 Thread Se7en
I expected Israel to do such a thing, however this is nothing new. A 2017 study found that nearly every single embassy in the Washington DC Area had Stingray Devices with the assumed goal of spying on members of Congress. On 19-09-12 17:14:51, jim bell wrote: > Israel accused of planting mysterio

Stingrays in D.C.

2019-09-12 Thread jim bell
Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the White House https://news.yahoo.com/israel-accused-planting-mysterious-spy-091431074.html