RE: Year in Jail for Web Links

2003-08-06 Thread John Young
Mac Norton wrote:

There was a weapons charge as well, which will always complicate 
matters considerably. 

There was a weapons charge -- Molotov cocktail -- in the first indictment 
which was dropped.

The second indictment was for the single charge of distribution of 
information, to wit:

  18:842(p)(2)(A) Distribution of Information Relating to Explosives,
  Destructive Devices and Weapons of Mass Destruction

  http://cryptome.org/usa-v-sma-dkt2.htm

Mac's right that this kind of information is idiot cousin of controlled
substances. Law is an prejudiced ass.

That is why Sherman, a minority youngster, took a hit in cracker 
Southern California while two old honkies on the Left Coast addicted 
to 1A who offer the same information get no re-education sentence 
at all -- well, as the Boston youngster wrote yet.



Re: R.I.P. (was: Re: A 'Funky A.T.M.' Lets You Pay for Purchases Made Online)

2003-07-25 Thread John Young
Oh, like Uday and Qusay, you can't kill this immortal fucker, 
nobody got the guts to plow a TOW in it. Instead, thousands of
gutless have hari-kiried by exiting the battle for well.com 
nutlick where the dead live in perfect, silent synchrony, so that 
is a no-brain, no-work option. Sit still, children, repeat this.

Hell, start a DOA mail list to bitch about how stupid people are
outside of old folks cess-suck. Read yourself sitting on a one-holer.

Nothing wrong with cypherpunks that couldn't be cured, as ever,
by more fresh young meat totally ignorant and not giving a shit
about how it used to be, only hot to throw slop at what's 
puked by the wizened, the reputable, the stuffed with here's
how it's meant to be.

Now that revulsion against whoever has truth by tail is a dim 
memory of what cpunks was meant to be, was now and again, 
not a place for boozy glory days telling a sanitized tale of what 
never happened. Pontificators are usually hooted off the list,
save for a few protected species taxidermied for darts.

The old days, don't believe them, cypherpunks was and is toxic 
to serious makeovers and shutdowns and lock-outs, and, never 
forget that PLONKS are cries of shut the fuck up and listen to me.
Pluck the PLONKS, if you don't get them you aint earning your
stay. PLONKERS little-man your wee-wees.

Hiccups a fogey one hand hanging on the bar rail, the other
rooting the floor vomit for a chawtabaccy cud ricochet from
the spit bucket.

]=; Uday



Re: Jerk with a t-shirt

2003-07-24 Thread John Young
The rights of property owners, especially commercial property,
are not as absolute as sometimes argued. Due to the public
services provided by governmental authorities, tax perqs not
the least, property owners are required to abide a diverse range
of laws and regulations to provide assurance that people on the
property are safe. These people include the property owner,
family members, employees, customers and others who may
not be capable of judging what is safe.

Similarly, retail property owners are obliged to provide assurances
to customers that they are safe as prescribed by zoning, building
and health codes. To be sure there is a lucrative industry of 
professionals who advise property owners how to skirt these
requirements -- public relations mongers, lobbyists, lawyers, 
zoning consultants, architects, engineers, planners, politicians, 
so-called public interest groups, bribers, liars, cheaters, the mob, 
whores, pimps, and so on. Most of these are lightly or unregulated, 
even those ostensibly licensed to protect the public interest are
happy to front for those whose only interest is criminal profit.

Keep this in mind: whenever someone argues for the right to
do what they want on their property they are blowing shit in your
face while picking your pocket and placing you and your beloved
mongrels in danger through a smart-ass range of distancing, exculpatory
mechanisms, not least several of the constitutional amendments 
which were set up for just that purpose by the original continental
landscape thieves and which are forever being updated to keep the 
our-screw-you-laws-are-fair-laws racket running smoothly. 

Thanks to two centuries of warping law and culture to bias stolen
property owners, no property owner takes full risk these days,
but some will have you killed if you question that, that's what the
justice and national security mob is paid handsomely to enforce.

Department of Homeland Security looks to be the greatest ever
privacy and property expropriation since the national security apparatus
was set up after WW2, stolen from the public in the name of protecting it, 
given over to the homesec contractors, mediated by the homesec 
slicksters. Homeland is the false positive, as was national defense.

I happen to agree with those who said that since he was on private property 
the property owners had every right to boot him off. I just think you 
should do a little more fact-checking before you post.

Jack



Re: RF Weapons

2001-05-03 Thread John Young

Tim May wrote:

Information Warfare is again being trotted out in the context of 
currently-deteriorating relations between the U.S.G. and the P.R.C. 
(China). Wanna bet we start seeing recycled reports about plans to 
knock out the stock exchanges, with Chinese info-terrorists 
replacing the IRA terrorists who were said to be planning EMP/HERF 
attacks on London several years ago?

DoJ's rep at the recent 2600 appeal hearing, Daniel Alter, said that 
DeCSS is comparable to a terrorist weapon that can knock out air 
control or other vital infrastructure. Some laughed at that, but Jim 
Bell got hung for using legal databases because of alleged intent 
to harm which meant he was not a protected journalist. As 2600
was distinguished from the New York Times though both linked
to DeCSS.

That intent to harm tips benign use of information into criminality.
It is probable that such tipping will soon be applied retroactively
to information liberators.

Thanks heavens nobody here is likely to be found guilty of that. No
matter that actual attacks on information instructure is most likely
to be made by its alleged protectors needing clearcut reasons
to raid and bust and send up the river those who dare to broadcast
information about government perfidy.

What will be less entertaining is when a recalcitrant log administrator
is shot for resisting a lawful command or a site operator assassinated
for refusing to pull an embarassing document. As seems is sure to
happen with the alleged perps who have legally posted police officers' 
personal data up in Seattle. 

What is it with Seattle, anyhow, all the crybercrime fighters there having 
a field day. Ah, yes they are they are the lynch folks who describe
cybercrime as terrorism, in accord with OMB, DoD and DoJ instructions
commaned by Congressional edict.

Robb London accused Jim Bell in WWA of what Daniel Alter accused
Emmanuel Goldstein in SDNY -- distributing information is mass 
destruction. Intending to harm they chant.




Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread John Young

Tim May wrote:

None of the non-cryptographic methods are very resistant to legal, 
technical, sniffing, and black bag attacks. And only multiply-chained 
encrypted-at-each-stage messages, a la remailers, are adequate for 
high-value messages.

Those who've read it know that Jim Bamford's Body of Secrets ends
with a paragraph on NSA's being unable to cope with the spread of
communications protection technology and has come to rely more
and more on the Special Collection Service, a joint NSA-CIA black
bag operation and other methods of gaining access to targeted material.

This comes after decades of NSA disparaging the CIA's reliance on
HUMINT in favor of COMINT, ELINT, and a host of technological
intelligence gathering methods. Bamford says that NSA's prowess in
these methods accounts for its humongous growth into the premier
intel agency -- in budget and in personnel. Until the technology it
invented, fostered and funded made its way into the private world
and then to other countries intel (and allegedly criminal) organizations.
From computers to crypto to means to crack or get around those.

What will come of Special Collection Service application inside the
United States as the fervor for homeland defense burgeons and 
the redefinition of foreign enemies to include anyone in the US
considered to be a threat, is worth pondering, in particular as SCS
techniques are shared with domestic agencies to fight the drug war
and for counterterrorism -- all domestic agencies now becoming
rapidly militarized in policy, training, equipment and close working
with DoD. 

Recall DEA planting the bug on Jim Bell for IRS -- the
agency is the most militarized due to the DoD and intel agencies
being ordered to fight the drug war in the US and overseas. 
Recall, too, the amazing 30 agents which raided Jim's home, 
according to trial testimony by Jeff Gordon, the were all shocked
and frightened at the chem-warfare stuff allegedly found there,
until the EPA calmed the tough guys. That's the reason Jim's 
home is listed in the EPA's most hazardous sites compendium 
for the year of the raid.

Last week, as Declan noted there were a series of congressional
hearings on homeland security legislation and increased funding
for combating high-tech crime. We offer the lengthy testimony
on several bills providing for homeland defense and combating
terrorism:

  http://cryptome.org/homeland-terr.htm  (286K)

As I noted a few days ago, information is now listed with nuclear,
biological and chemical threats to the nation, and requires similar
intelligence about its danger to the homeland.

This could lead to the the technologies Tim lists being defined
as homeland information-terrorist threats as our very own Stasi
secret police grows rapidly -- informers squealing on family
members, vast lists of suspects, and so on. No wonder the
CIA has held on to the East German lists of enemies of the
state -- its own citizenry -- so fervently. 

US intel is looking for reasons to live and where best than pursuing
you know who, ably assisted by the industry set up by ex-intel
members. Those down-sized by the end of the Cold War got
bills to pay.

Finally, reading the NYT account of Kerry's team killing the 
Vietnamese is sobering. The article is much more disturbing
than accounts of it have portrayed. Kerry's and other killers'
spin over the years have induced an intolerance for reading
the grim shit that the military does when it is out of control.

And be sure to reflect on Bamford's account of the Joint
Chiefs planning to fake a terrorist attack on the US to warrant
a Cuban offensive. That shit could be in the works even
now -- homeland defense is aiming to be a humongous
growth industry. One easy way to get that underway is to
fake a nationally disruptive infowar attack -- or is that already 
underway.




USA v. James Bell, Tacoma

2001-04-08 Thread John Young

James Bell asks through Lou Bell, his mother:

[Quote]

Please  send messages to the following newspapers and ask them why they
haven't been following the trial of James Bell in federal court in Tacoma.
There will be extremely important testimony by James Bell on Monday.  
He needs your help.

It is an extreme emergency!  It is very important that a large number of
people contact these newspapers as soon as possible.  Thank you.

Seattle Times: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seattle Post Intelligencer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oregonian:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Columbian:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Unquote]




AR Politics

2001-04-08 Thread John Young

(Cyberpass is down.)

Jim testified for himself Friday afternoon,
presenting as good a narrative as Jeff's. He's
due to continue on Monday.

Both Jim and Jeff made little use of exhibits,
and an observer might think their testimony
was scripted by a single writer: both had
been well-rehearsed in acting style and voice
direction to perform a single story with two
Rashomons of the same events, both equally compelling
or unbelievable depending on what a viewer wanted
to see.

The main difference is that Jeff has the backing of
a bloated, self-serving justice system: the courthouse, 
the judge, the agents of several TLAs, guards, marshals, 
SEATAC, and much more maw needing cases -- Tacoma court
is a wasteland of little used overspending.

Jim has a roll of the dice with the jurors, all of
whom are  dressed and look more like Jim than the
mani-uniformed and dark-suited officials and rats.

Jim has no witnesses: Judge Jack denied all requests,
compared to a couple of dozen for the government.
Most of Jim's request for discovery have been denied,
while the gov gets all it asks for. At the end of
Friday Judge Jack denied Jim's request for access to 
his own discovery notes for use during his testimony.

Jim has so far demonstrated that he is several
grades of intelligence above that of his official
tormentors. And far less prejudicial.

So what if the show is scripted that way, that the
hero is doomed to be condemned by the king's police,
for crowd-pleasing anti-revolutionary politics.

And it's blood-quickening incendiary.

A local says the news media are staying away from the
trial in fear of subpoena -- for the trial, for the
grand jury cooking up iA victims.