RE: Trusting HavenCo [was: Sealand Rant] CPUNK

2000-06-12 Thread Sean Roach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 09:27 PM 6/11/00 -0400, you wrote: Lucky: I agree with Peter in that Sealand may wish to consider adding a nuke to their budget of small arms. Nuclear powers are the only sovereigns that command any kind of respect from the other

RE: Trusting HavenCo [was: Sealand Rant] CPUNK

2000-06-12 Thread Bill Stewart
Simply fill one of the lower legs of the platfrom with mercury, and a little high explosives. Have a panic button in the ops center. The SAS lands, and 1000 gallons of pure mercury are blasted out into the channel. That wouldn't be nice. Plays heck with your mercury delay line memory

Re: Sealand rant (pragmas)

2000-06-12 Thread David Honig
At 09:32 PM 6/10/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: I'm still at a loss as to just what you actually mean by saying "crypto makes it all invisible.' The devil is in the details. Handwaving about crypto making things invisible just won't cut it, not when a specific model (Sealand) is being looked at. By

Re: MS-Nationalization By Thomas J. DiLorenzo

2000-06-12 Thread David Honig
At 07:51 PM 6/11/00 -0400, Lizard wrote: Which leads me to this question -- so why doesn't Bill just close up shop? He's got fifty+ billion dollars -- he couldn't spend it all in his lifetime if he tried. So why doesn't he just pull a John Galt and say, "Fine. I hereby close down Microsoft.

Re: CDR: RE: MS-Nationalization By Thomas J. DiLorenzo

2000-06-12 Thread Sunder
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: And that is why UNIX deserves to be thrown in the trash can. It is NOT a good operating system. It is poorly designed, buggy and baddly documented. Read the UNIX hater's manual for chapter and verse. Its success had everything to the fact it was once given away

Re: CDR: RE: MS-Nationalization By Thomas J. DiLorenzo

2000-06-12 Thread Sunder
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: You confuse market share, e.g., the decision by most consumers to choose Windows over OS/2 or Plan 9 or DrDOS, etc. How are the consumers who can't cope with the Web and have to use the AOL version meant to be able to learn UNIX or Plan-9? I take it you've

RE: CDR: RE: MS-Nationalization By Thomas J. DiLorenzo

2000-06-12 Thread Sunder
That's ok, I still got you on the Apple "stealing" from Xerox bit. :) --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\

Re: CDR: RE: MS-Nationalization By Thomas J. DiLorenzo

2000-06-12 Thread Sunder
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Tim May wrote: --Xerox PARC had overlapping windows. Apple used the 1979 demonstration to redirect it's nonoverlapping windows to be overlapping. This is detailed in some of the histories of PARC, including "Dealers in Lightning." Hmm, yes, now that I read back,

RE: ZKS makes the WSJ (again)

2000-06-12 Thread Lucky Green
Patrick Henry wrote: [About ZKS being mentioned in the WSJ] One can only wonder where we're headed when cypherpunkery gets this mainstream. I don't know where we are headed. But I do know where we are: Cypherpunks is about strong crypto, open source, and peer review of that source. With the