Inferno: The notion of separation of church and state (fwd)

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2003-02-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, jet wrote: If you've read it recently, I'll take your word for it. That's a very(!!!) dangerous approach. Odds are the person hasn't read it at all. Check the archive for a reference to a pre-print in arXiv (ie xyz.lanl.gov) about pre-prints and how 80% of them are bogus

Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-12 Thread Jim Choate
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On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 11:32:24PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: (much snipped) It's just the same as some people claiming particular alcoholic drinks are better or worse than others. That's hardly a good analogy. The key thing about these drugs is the effects are intensively

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-12 Thread Tyler Durden
By the time that people were mixing speed with it, actual dosages were much less (adding amphetamines to 250mic LSD is fairly pointless) and today most, from what I hear, are around 75-100 mic. In the early 80s I remembering getting some of the famous Goofy blotter, rated around 125

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2003-02-12 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/29294.html -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9

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Re: New Scientist - Joao Magueijo - Hero or Heretic? (fwd)

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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, jet wrote: If you've read it recently, I'll take your word for it. That's a very(!!!) dangerous approach. Odds are the person hasn't read it at all. Check the archive for a reference to a pre-print in arXiv (ie xyz.lanl.gov) about pre-prints and how 80% of them are bogus

Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Sarad AV wrote: A tape as an evidence?Is a tape still considered as a valid piece of evidence in a court of law? It's that oath thing, it's pretty much always required the person making the tape to swear it hasn't been tampered with and that they are the party who created

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2003-02-12 Thread Lucky Green
Steve wrote quoting: PAUL KRUGMAN And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power  a fear that he will wimp out in the aftermath of war, that he won't do what is needed to rebuild Iraq  is a large factor in the growing rift

Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-12 Thread jet
At 2:40 + 2003/02/12, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: This one just won't die. People keep repeating it. Not much different from Bush's Time is running out or They hate us because we love freedom. Would you like to show us the part of the twelve page German law of March, 1938 that limits gun

Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-12 Thread Sarad AV
hi, I've not followed it closely, but Powell claims to have a tape of Bin Laden talking to Iraqi's. Al Jazerra denys it's real. This is all from NPR. The game is afoot, let's see who can deliver the bigger lie. A tape as an evidence?Is a tape still considered as a valid piece of

Re: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-12 Thread david
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 09:52, Dr. mike wrote: No reason we can't start a movement to plege alegiance to the constitution The main body of the constitution does not apply to the individuals, it is the law the politicians and bureaucrats of the federal government are supposed to obey

Re: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, david wrote: The main body of the constitution does not apply to the individuals, it is the law the politicians and bureaucrats of the federal government are supposed to obey (and instead completely ignore). The fourteenth amendment prohibits the state governments from

Stupid security measures, a contest

2003-02-12 Thread Adam Shostack
Human rights watchdog Privacy International has launched a quest to find the World's Most Stupid Security Measure. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/29279.html -- It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. -Hume

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-12 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 11:32:24PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: (much snipped) It's just the same as some people claiming particular alcoholic drinks are better or worse than others. That's hardly a good analogy. The key thing about these drugs is the effects are intensively

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Tyler Durden
why should the U.S. concern itself with making investments in Iraq not directly related to creating and maintaining oil extraction and transport facilities? This is a continuation of the mythology that extrapolates post-WWII US presence in Germany and Japan (you know, those Americans really help

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-12 Thread Tyler Durden
By the time that people were mixing speed with it, actual dosages were much less (adding amphetamines to 250mic LSD is fairly pointless) and today most, from what I hear, are around 75-100 mic. In the early 80s I remembering getting some of the famous Goofy blotter, rated around 125

Re: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up against their future leaders,

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up against their future leaders, why should the U.S. concern itself with making investments in Iraq

As war approaches, so do secret congressional sessions

2003-02-12 Thread Declan McCullagh
SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE National Security Threats Full committee hearing on current and future worldwide threats to U.S. national security. (The hearing will adjourn into a closed session in SH-219.) Witnesses: George Tenet, director, CIA; Vice Adm. Lowell Jacoby, director, Defense

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