Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-14 Thread gwen hastings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steve, ~~long time no si.. BT trackers could easily be put into DNS and stored for TTL times in fact talk at code con 2005 in the lounges and corners were discussing the very possibility after the OZYDNS demo by Dan Kaminsky, since most of the

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-13 Thread Steve Schear
At 03:42 AM 3/11/2005, Eugen Leitl wrote: *** PGP Signature Status: good *** Signer: Eugen Leitl (makes other keys obsolete) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Invalid) *** Signed: 3/11/2005 3:42:52 AM *** Verified: 3/11/2005 12:49:27 PM *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 10:48:12PM

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-13 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:15 AM 3/10/2005, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worked with Bram and Zooko at Mojo Nation (where both BT and Mnet got their respective genesis) and was frankly surprised when the MPAA was so easily able to target and put out of commission BT's trackers. The Why? BT is designed

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-13 Thread Morlock Elloi
If you want to be invisible to lawyers, you have to use something else. Whoever wants to design something 'else' should first see Monty Python's How not to be seen sketch (or was it Importance of not being seen ?) It applies pretty well to all current techniques for moving unpaid copyrighted

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 10:06:45PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: I worked with Bram and Zooko at Mojo Nation (where both BT and Mnet got their respective genesis) and was frankly surprised when the MPAA was so easily able to target and put out of commission BT's trackers. The Why? BT is

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 10:48:12PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: Why? BT is designed with zero privacy in mind. And this was a profound error, IMHO. One of the epiphanies from my work at It was a deliberate decision on Bram Cohen's part. BT is a very useful medium to deliver software updates,

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-13 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:14 PM 3/9/2005, Eric Cordian wrote: If you had a thousand hours of genius programmer time, would you spend it embracing and extending Bittorrent, or shoveling through the indecipherable bowels of legacy Mnet and Freenet code? I worked with Bram and Zooko at Mojo Nation (where both BT and

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 9 Mar 2005 at 12:14, Eric Cordian wrote: Now, I think we can all agree that it would be lovely to have a distributed filesystem, with a global namespace, that anyone can put stuff in, and take stuff out of, which guarantees anonymity for both producers and consumers of content,

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 10:48:12PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: Why? BT is designed with zero privacy in mind. And this was a profound error, IMHO. One of the epiphanies from my work at It was a deliberate decision on Bram Cohen's part. BT is a very useful medium to deliver software updates,

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-11 Thread Morlock Elloi
If you want to be invisible to lawyers, you have to use something else. Whoever wants to design something 'else' should first see Monty Python's How not to be seen sketch (or was it Importance of not being seen ?) It applies pretty well to all current techniques for moving unpaid copyrighted

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 03:42 AM 3/11/2005, Eugen Leitl wrote: *** PGP Signature Status: good *** Signer: Eugen Leitl (makes other keys obsolete) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Invalid) *** Signed: 3/11/2005 3:42:52 AM *** Verified: 3/11/2005 12:49:27 PM *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 10:48:12PM

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 10:06:45PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: I worked with Bram and Zooko at Mojo Nation (where both BT and Mnet got their respective genesis) and was frankly surprised when the MPAA was so easily able to target and put out of commission BT's trackers. The Why? BT is

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-10 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:15 AM 3/10/2005, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worked with Bram and Zooko at Mojo Nation (where both BT and Mnet got their respective genesis) and was frankly surprised when the MPAA was so easily able to target and put out of commission BT's trackers. The Why? BT is designed

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-10 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 9 Mar 2005 at 12:14, Eric Cordian wrote: Now, I think we can all agree that it would be lovely to have a distributed filesystem, with a global namespace, that anyone can put stuff in, and take stuff out of, which guarantees anonymity for both producers and consumers of content,

[p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Zooko O'Whielacronx [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Zooko O'Whielacronx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:04:46 -0400 To: Peer-to-peer development. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-09 Thread Eric Cordian
Zooko writes: I am about to accept an exciting job that will preclude me from contributing to open source projects in the distributed file-system space. I will miss the Mnet project! Good luck without me! Is there a network currently running? At one time, I had 5 gig of Mnet

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-09 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:14 PM 3/9/2005, Eric Cordian wrote: If you had a thousand hours of genius programmer time, would you spend it embracing and extending Bittorrent, or shoveling through the indecipherable bowels of legacy Mnet and Freenet code? I worked with Bram and Zooko at Mojo Nation (where both BT and

Re: [p2p-hackers] good-bye, Mnet, and good luck. I'm going commercial! plus my last design doc (fwd from zooko@zooko.com)

2005-03-09 Thread Eric Cordian
Zooko writes: I am about to accept an exciting job that will preclude me from contributing to open source projects in the distributed file-system space. I will miss the Mnet project! Good luck without me! Is there a network currently running? At one time, I had 5 gig of Mnet