Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-10 Thread petro
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, A. Melon wrote: They've got a good idea -- one of the tactics used by cops for quite awhile is to have undercover agents in the crowd who spot the *real* troublemakers, leaders, etc. and then often an affinity squad will target that individual. By making it very difficult to

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-10 Thread Faustine
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Faustine wrote: Frankly, I don't see how any kind of short-term tactic for possibly illegal operations on the street in an environment full of police could be good for anything more than the symbolic. What did these Frankly, I think you're missing the point.

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-10 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:30:42PM -0400, Faustine wrote: Fine. So how much anonymity do you anticipate having after the feds squirt a little of some new nonlethal substance straight down the middle of the thing and your vinegar hankies just aren't up to it? Go ahead, rack Right. That's

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-09 Thread Craig Brozefsky
Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To make it clear, I'm not a member of the Black Blocs, associated with them in any way, nor do I think the tactic is effective. I was asking Sampo if he was being sarcastic in his association of this tactic with an anarchist ideology of any value. Frankly, I

RE: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-09 Thread Vinay Menon
]]On Behalf Of Craig Brozefsky Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:37 PM To: Faustine Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Meatspace anonymity manual Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To make it clear, I'm not a member of the Black Blocs, associated with them in any way, nor do I think the tactic

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-09 Thread A. Melon
Ray Dillinger wrote: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: the protection afforded by Black Blocs is quite thin (just indict them under organized crime or gang laws), The similar clothing is enough to charge with gang membership and invoke RICO. Also, the 'black bloc' tactic has

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, A. Melon wrote: They've got a good idea -- one of the tactics used by cops for quite awhile is to have undercover agents in the crowd who spot the *real* troublemakers, leaders, etc. and then often an affinity squad will target that individual. By making it very difficult to

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-09 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
Sampo Syreeni wrote: The only logical conclusion I can see to skirmishes between black-clad anarchists, going on street operations, and governmental riot control forces, is that the police are eventually given the right to just gun the protestors down, irregardless of whether they have

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-07 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 6 Jul 2001, Craig Brozefsky wrote: So are you being sarcastic or are you really failing to understand that Black Blocs are a short-term tactic for possibly illegal operations on the street in an environment full of police, and not some demonstrative symbol of anarchist philosophy representing

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-07 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 6 Jul 2001, Craig Brozefsky wrote: So are you being sarcastic or are you really failing to understand that Black Blocs are a short-term tactic for possibly illegal operations on the street in an environment full of police, and not some demonstrative symbol of anarchist philosophy representing

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-07 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: the protection afforded by Black Blocs is quite thin (just indict them under organized crime or gang laws), The similar clothing is enough to charge with gang membership and invoke RICO. Also, the 'black bloc' tactic has 'premeditated' written all

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-07 Thread Anonymous
Black Blockers are willing to operate in ways diametrically opposed to the core anachist ideology, the whole thing seems both clueless and Bullshit. The anarchist ideology (which is a stupid assertion in itself) does not comprise of standing on the road alone to be run over by the truck.

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-07 Thread David Honig
At 09:36 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: The similar clothing is enough to charge with gang membership and invoke RICO. I love it. If my kid goes to public school, he'll be prohibited from wearing = 50% black clothing as that would indicate sympathy with an UnAmerican Activity.

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-06 Thread Faustine
Sampo Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Anonymous Coredump wrote: THE BLACK BLOC The whole idea of a Black Bloc is that people wear all black, and stay in a tight formation. If people don't stay in formation, and wander around with large gaps in-between, well, that's