On Dec 9, 2003, at 8:46 PM, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 19:57, Eric Murray wrote:
Ok, bye!
plonk
Eric (just to make it crystal clear, Tim's going in my _personal_
killfile)
Shit, mine too. I really don't get what's happened to Tim. He used
to be a
great resource.
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
Message-type: plaintext
Tim,
I AM GETTING TIRED OF SEEING CYPHERPUNKS RESTRICTING WHAT INFORMATION
FLOWS AND TO WHERE IT FLOWS...
-END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
Can somebody with a webspider crawl these documents, and put it up
on the web?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt
-- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a
__
ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org
Hello
I'm curious. You say the list got some 400+ members right now and that's only the lne
node too. Can you provide some statistics on the users? How many addresses are .gov?
Any valid TLA addresses in there?!
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:56:24PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Can somebody with a webspider crawl these documents, and put it up
on the web?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt
All or nearly all of them are duplicates of same documents
elsewhere in the directory tree; X/text/ and
At 4:57 PM -0800 12/9/03, Eric Murray wrote:
I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny.
On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe.
When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted. Unfortunately
these days the latter Tim isn't letting the former Tim
near the
In a message dated 12/9/2003 6:12:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for you, Gaylor, you subscribe for a while, contribute nothing,
vanish from the list for a couple of years, then resubscribe and
immediately start ranting that I am not doing enough for the cause.
This robots.txt issue was exaggerated by leftist crtitics of the
administration. (This is not a general defense of the White House,
just a statement of fact.) The Bush WH.gov server has a special Iraq
section where press releases, speeches, etc. are reposted in a
different HTML template. The WH
In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:58:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Green = Red.
Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie.
Veridian, my ass.
My thoughts exactly.
Regards, Matt-
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:26:22AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Unfortunately, if you want to read Tim, you have to read his evil twin
Skippy, too.
Living in *his* killfile, on the other hand, and if he actually uses it,
can be useful. Try it, you'll like it.
So what you're saying is that
I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny.
On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe.
When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted. Unfortunately
these days the latter Tim isn't letting the former Tim
near the keyboard very often.
I dunno...sometimes his
I really would expect that preventing *spiders* (some spiders, even) using
the *publicly accessible* robots.txt would be a pretty horribly ineffective
form of skullduggery... can think of 10 things to do that are easier, more
effective and less of a potential pr fiasco...
see
At 3:58 PM +0200 12/10/03, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
So what you're saying is that we need a remote-plonk mechanism to insert
oneself into another person's killfile (merely entertaining this thought
makes me a loathsome Bolshie, I'm sure).
Yup. On both counts. :-).
Seriously, in IM, like AIM, for
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 04:20:20PM -0600, Declan McCullagh wrote:
We have anonymity in Web browsing (more or less, thanks to Lance
co). It's not NSA-proof, but it's probably subpoena-proof.
We have anonymity in email thanks to remailers (to the extent they're
still around).
We have
--
On 9 Dec 2003 at 0:47, edo wrote:
What I'm curious about is digital currencies. Can anyone
speak about the Digital Monetary Trust or DMT? I'm sorry I
have not read the last upteen years of mail archives, but I'm
interested in what people think NOW about Orlin Grabbe, DMT,
e-gold etc.
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, James A. Donald wrote:
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In austin powers, they make the spy sound sixties by
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perhaps rather favoring that outcome. If they had him quote
Ayn Rand, he would not have sounded sixties.
When the mass
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On 9 Dec 2003 at 23:44, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 3:59 PM -0500 12/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cybergreen: Bruce Sterling
Green = Red.
Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie.
Veridian, my ass.
Veridian green is entryist, not commie. The watermelons would
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Is it possible to determine that the photo 'originally' (ie, when it was
sent to me) contained stegoed information, but that it was intercepted in
transit and the real message overwritten with noise or whatever?
Hardly, given the simple
Well, that sounds reasonable on the face of it, but there's got to be a lot
more discussion before I'm convinced.
Remember that psuedorandom or encrypted data has a certain noise spectrum.
This noise spectrum is extremely different based on what PRBS one is
using...PRBS 2^23-1 looks completely
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At 10:37 AM 12/10/2003, James A. Donald wrote:
--
On 9 Dec 2003 at 0:47, edo wrote:
What I'm curious about is digital currencies. Can anyone
speak about the Digital Monetary Trust or DMT? I'm sorry I
have not read the last upteen years of mail archives, but I'm
interested in what people
--
On 10 Dec 2003 at 18:22, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
alt.anonymous.messages has a healthy amount of traffic.
Google Groups says they have a bit more than 200 messages in
it on December 9, for example. I assume nearly all of it is
from remailers posting to Usenet (or remailers sending mail
--
On 10 Dec 2003 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E-gold and other DGCs do not do much if any due diligence in
checking account holder identification, so if you use an
effective proxying means (e.g., an open Wi-Fi hotspot) to
create and access your accounts you are pretty safe. If you
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 02:07:33PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote:
--
On 10 Dec 2003 at 18:22, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
alt.anonymous.messages has a healthy amount of traffic.
Google Groups says they have a bit more than 200 messages in
it on December 9, for example. I assume nearly all of
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From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You do not need to use remailers to take advantage of
alt.anonymous.messages. If someone posts directly to
alt.anonymous. messages, still the adversary cannot tell who he
is posting to. (Assuming his recipient sets his newsagent to
always download
If you spatially fft a random photo, you'll find that the image detail
energy largely occupies certain bands. These are not the bands that stego
uses (or so I assume...it really can't be otherwise). The stego-able
spectrum will indeed be noise, but this noise will have a certain spectrum.
Original Message
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ALTA/DMT privacy [was: Re: (No Subject)]
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:13:59 -0800
--
On 10 Dec 2003 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you
Original Message
From: Anatoly Vorobey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You do not need to use remailers to take advantage of
alt.anonymous.messages. If someone posts directly to
alt.anonymous. messages, still the adversary cannot tell who he
is posting to. (Assuming his recipient
On 10 Dec 2003 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E-gold and other DGCs do not do much if any due diligence in
checking account holder identification
Unfortunately, they also don't due much if any due diligence in
identifying themselves in messages to real or potential customers,
so it's
Original Message
From: Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Dec 2003 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E-gold and other DGCs do not do much if any due diligence in
checking account holder identification
Unfortunately, they also don't due much if any due diligence in
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On Dec 10, 2003, at 6:20 PM, Bill Stewart wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E-gold and other DGCs do not do much if any due diligence in
checking account holder identification
Unfortunately, they also don't due much if any due diligence in
identifying themselves in
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 12:47:27AM +0100, edo wrote:
With the USA
becoming the world's most totalitarian state in disguise...
That's a pretty silly thing to say.
Sure you don't want to educate yourself on those other states in the
world?
It's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 10-Dec-03, at 11:10 PM, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
Just a few hundred dead federal goons, spread over a relatively short
period
(~6 months), where the attacks were obviously coordinated, made against
In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:34:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I receive several messages a month saying I need to re-verify
information with an E-gold account (which I never recall establishing,
by the way).
If I ever determine that E-Gold personnel have
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:26:22AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Unfortunately, if you want to read Tim, you have to read his evil twin
Skippy, too.
Living in *his* killfile, on the other hand, and if he actually uses it,
can be useful. Try it, you'll like it.
So what you're saying is that
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
Message-type: plaintext
Tim,
I AM GETTING TIRED OF SEEING CYPHERPUNKS RESTRICTING WHAT INFORMATION
FLOWS AND TO WHERE IT FLOWS...
-END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:56:24PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Can somebody with a webspider crawl these documents, and put it up
on the web?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt
All or nearly all of them are duplicates of same documents
elsewhere in the directory tree; X/text/ and
On Dec 9, 2003, at 8:46 PM, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 19:57, Eric Murray wrote:
Ok, bye!
plonk
Eric (just to make it crystal clear, Tim's going in my _personal_
killfile)
Shit, mine too. I really don't get what's happened to Tim. He used
to be a
great resource.
This robots.txt issue was exaggerated by leftist crtitics of the
administration. (This is not a general defense of the White House,
just a statement of fact.) The Bush WH.gov server has a special Iraq
section where press releases, speeches, etc. are reposted in a
different HTML template. The WH
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 19:57, Eric Murray wrote:
Ok, bye!
plonk
Eric (just to make it crystal clear, Tim's going in my _personal_ killfile)
Shit, mine too. I really don't get what's happened to Tim. He used to be a
great resource. Now he's even forgotten how to troll well.
shrug
At 3:58 PM +0200 12/10/03, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
So what you're saying is that we need a remote-plonk mechanism to insert
oneself into another person's killfile (merely entertaining this thought
makes me a loathsome Bolshie, I'm sure).
Yup. On both counts. :-).
Seriously, in IM, like AIM, for
At 10:07 PM 12/9/2003 +0200, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
He was just trolling, being intentionally vague so that they'd assume
he was copying from one DVD to another. Which they did, and which they
raved about.
Tim? Trolling? No, they'd yank his Ontology license if he did that
(and yes, someone
In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:58:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Green = Red.
Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie.
Veridian, my ass.
My thoughts exactly.
Regards, Matt-
At 3:59 PM -0500 12/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cybergreen: Bruce Sterling
Green = Red.
Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie.
Veridian, my ass.
Cheers,
RAH
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation
Hello
I'm curious. You say the list got some 400+ members right now and that's only the lne
node too. Can you provide some statistics on the users? How many addresses are .gov?
Any valid TLA addresses in there?!
Can somebody with a webspider crawl these documents, and put it up
on the web?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt
-- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a
__
ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org
At 4:57 PM -0800 12/9/03, Eric Murray wrote:
I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny.
On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe.
When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted. Unfortunately
these days the latter Tim isn't letting the former Tim
near the
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 04:20:20PM -0600, Declan McCullagh wrote:
We have anonymity in Web browsing (more or less, thanks to Lance
co). It's not NSA-proof, but it's probably subpoena-proof.
We have anonymity in email thanks to remailers (to the extent they're
still around).
We have
I really would expect that preventing *spiders* (some spiders, even) using
the *publicly accessible* robots.txt would be a pretty horribly ineffective
form of skullduggery... can think of 10 things to do that are easier, more
effective and less of a potential pr fiasco...
see
I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny.
On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe.
When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted. Unfortunately
these days the latter Tim isn't letting the former Tim
near the keyboard very often.
I dunno...sometimes his
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February 20-22, 2004
San Francisco CA, USA
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Call For Papers
CodeCon is the premier showcase of active hacker projects. It is an
excellent opportunity for developers to demonstrate their work and keep
abreast of what's going on in their community.
All presentations
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, James A. Donald wrote:
SNIP
In austin powers, they make the spy sound sixties by
depicting him as expecting the victory of the Soviet Union, and
perhaps rather favoring that outcome. If they had him quote
Ayn Rand, he would not have sounded sixties.
When the mass
--
On 9 Dec 2003 at 0:47, edo wrote:
What I'm curious about is digital currencies. Can anyone
speak about the Digital Monetary Trust or DMT? I'm sorry I
have not read the last upteen years of mail archives, but I'm
interested in what people think NOW about Orlin Grabbe, DMT,
e-gold etc.
At 10:37 AM 12/10/2003, James A. Donald wrote:
--
On 9 Dec 2003 at 0:47, edo wrote:
What I'm curious about is digital currencies. Can anyone
speak about the Digital Monetary Trust or DMT? I'm sorry I
have not read the last upteen years of mail archives, but I'm
interested in what people
--
On 9 Dec 2003 at 23:44, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 3:59 PM -0500 12/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cybergreen: Bruce Sterling
Green = Red.
Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie.
Veridian, my ass.
Veridian green is entryist, not commie. The watermelons would
--
On 10 Dec 2003 at 18:22, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
alt.anonymous.messages has a healthy amount of traffic.
Google Groups says they have a bit more than 200 messages in
it on December 9, for example. I assume nearly all of it is
from remailers posting to Usenet (or remailers sending mail
--
On 10 Dec 2003 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E-gold and other DGCs do not do much if any due diligence in
checking account holder identification, so if you use an
effective proxying means (e.g., an open Wi-Fi hotspot) to
create and access your accounts you are pretty safe. If you
Tyler Durden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 2003-12-08:
Is it possible to determine that the photo 'originally' (ie, when it was
sent to me) contained stegoed information, but that it was intercepted in
transit and the real message overwritten with noise or whatever?
Hardly, given the simple
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