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Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:20:32PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: And most of the sheeple _like_ it. They'd rather be safe than free. For every complaint I've heard about having to reassure the bank that the card wasn't stolen, I've heard a couple dozen praises for the wonderful safe system that

Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 08:23 PM 5/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:20:32PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: And most of the sheeple _like_ it. They'd rather be safe than free. For every complaint I've heard about having to reassure the bank that the card wasn't stolen, I've heard a couple dozen

Re: Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering 2002 - CFP

2002-05-11 Thread jamesd
-- On 11 May 2002 at 9:30, anonimo arancio wrote: This is so fucking boring. No one gets laid any more for doing FC. Who cares for Yet Another Implementation of Something That No One Will Ever Use ? We have credit cards. Nothing will ever replace them, in spite of 2% transaction fees.

Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread Eric Cordian
Declan opines: I'm a bit late here, but let me rise to the defense of profiling of this sort. The reason we have interest rates on credit cards which are not far higher than they are now and have ready availability of credit in the first place (not to mention credit cards being accepted

Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread Morlock Elloi
The reason we have ready availability of credit in the first place is because consumer debt is the most profitable business in the United States. Good point. Is there an entity with deep pockets that would find it profitable to develop and deploy near-zero-cost (crypto blah blah)

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Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread jamesd
-- On 11 May 2002 at 18:55, Morlock Elloi wrote: Also let's not forget that person A givin person B cash is zero-cost untraceable transaction. Sometimes, for example internet pornography, it is hard for Andy to give Betty cash. Another interesting application is controlled traceability --

Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 11 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another interesting application is controlled traceability -- Andy wants to be able to prove he paid Betty, but he does not want third parties to be able to prove he paid Betty. Who is Andy going to 'prove' it to then, other than Betty? And

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2002-05-11 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread Morlock Elloi
Another interesting application is controlled traceability -- Andy wants to be able to prove he paid Betty, but he does not want third parties to be able to prove he paid Betty. Mental constructs like this one, complicated schemes that require knowledge of modular aritmetic to understand, is

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Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance

2002-05-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 06:59 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 05:32 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 05:06 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Black-and-white images captured by the cameras will be fed to screens in the cockpit via the cables used to distribute pictures to seat-back video

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Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys

2002-05-11 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:20:32PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: And most of the sheeple _like_ it. They'd rather be safe than free. For every complaint I've heard about having to reassure the bank that the card wasn't stolen, I've heard a couple dozen praises for the wonderful safe system that

Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance

2002-05-11 Thread Neil Johnson
On Friday 10 May 2002 07:32 pm, Steve Schear wrote: A less observable jamming means is to just bring a key chain penlight aboard and aim it at the light. If the light has a suction cup mount it can be mounted to the arm of the chair. For more clandestine use a two position switch on the

Re: Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering 2002 - CFP

2002-05-11 Thread jamesd
-- On 11 May 2002 at 9:30, anonimo arancio wrote: This is so fucking boring. No one gets laid any more for doing FC. Who cares for Yet Another Implementation of Something That No One Will Ever Use ? We have credit cards. Nothing will ever replace them, in spite of 2% transaction fees.