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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:41:45 -0400
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The privacy news has been full of fuss and bluster lately about
Google's proposed Gmail service. The latest complaint comes at
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/GmailLetter.htm with an open letter from
dozens of privacy groups to the Google founders asking them to revamp
the service.
Cypherpunks
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel fuel or equivalent heavy oil
fraction don't show up as something unusual. Ditto inorganic
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partial contents from 12 hard drives that have leaked from Polish
Ministry of Foreign Affairs. These drives contain more than 4000
documents from years 1992-2004, some of them labelled secret.
After the Ministry and ABW (Agencja
From: PaweÅ, Krawczyk (IPSec.PL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This case should teaches us a lot, indeed...
First, subscribe to RISKS.
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Ironically, some of the features of Gmail bear resemblance to BlackNet.
In particular, its claimed policy of retaining email indefinitely,
even after the recipient has stopped using the account, is reminiscent
of BlackNet's function as a data haven, as well as other Cypherpunk
projects like the
What's annoying is that, given the kind of specious settlements in this
field and other cases, the ambulance chaser in question could probably
afford it. :-).
Cheers,
RAH
--- begin forwarded text
Subject: Fun with Lawyers
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:59:21 -0400
From: Somebody
To: [EMAIL
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Poo poo. The difference between a potential blacknet and Gmail is that
there's little doubt that google will cough up the true names of
objectionable posters, if and when anyone looking even remotely
authoritative/governmental comes pounding on their
At 11:19 AM 4/8/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the
well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel fuel or equivalent heavy oil
fraction don't show up as
At 09:14 PM 4/7/04 -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
At 07:03 PM 4/7/2004, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the
well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling.
Yep. Everyone who's serious -from Dr. Kazcynzski to the
Major Variola (ret)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 11:19 AM 4/8/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the
well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel
At 05:26 AM 4/8/04 -0400, An Metet wrote:
The privacy news has been full of fuss and bluster lately about
Google's proposed Gmail service.
Cypherpunks have two somewhat contradictory positions on the issue.
First, as lovers of privacy, they will share the concerns in the letter
and they would be
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At 4:41 AM + 4/8/04, Daniel Pineu wrote:
I am very curious about what are your views about the twin concept
of hierarchy
Hierarchy emerges as a result of the economics of information
switching.
When you have expensive nodes (brains) and
At 9:14 PM -0700 4/7/04, Steve Schear wrote:
Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling.
On your arms? Legs? Hands?
Arabs in bunny-suits. Whadda concept.
See Mr. Mathers, below...
Cheers,
RAH
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet Bearer
At 10:08 AM 4/8/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
And McVeigh used ammonium nitrate which wasn't tested, and as a
highly soluable (in fact deliquescent) inorganic it probably won't
persist like a nitrated organic. Also common as dirt in agville.
He also added nitromethane to the mix, obtained
At 01:56 PM 4/8/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
[Nanotechology at least holds out the possibility of making Von
Neumann machines, that is, switches which make copies of themselves,
You mean Johnny's *replicators*, a vN machine is just one with
a changable program store. But you mentioned Jared
At 02:06 PM 4/8/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 9:14 PM -0700 4/7/04, Steve Schear wrote:
Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling.
On your arms? Legs? Hands?
Arabs in bunny-suits. Whadda concept.
Disposable clothes don't have to be bunny suits. Latex dishwashing
gloves
and
As someone who was a Gerard O'Neill http://www.ssi.org/obit.html fan long
before he even knew who Turing/Von Neumann/etc., were, of course, I was
talking about the latter.
Cheers,
RAH
---
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_machine
Von Neumann machine
From Wikipedia, the free
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At 11:28 AM -0700 4/8/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Geodesic means shortest path, and you'll note if you play with
tracert that the shortest path (as seen on Earth's surface) is rarely
taken.
Measure the path in time?
:-)
Cheers,
RAH
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL
...All the Time...
Cheers,
RAH
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On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:42:47PM -0400, Ian Grigg wrote:
Trei, Peter wrote:
Frankly, the whole online-verification step seems like an
unneccesary complication.
It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote
verification (to prove your vote was counted) clashes
rather directly
Brian McGroarty wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:42:47PM -0400, Ian Grigg wrote:
It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote
verification (to prove your vote was counted) clashes
rather directly with the requirement to protect voters
from coercion (I can't prove I voted in a
I wasn't suggesting the authorities have access to your vote. The role of
the authorities is to provide the polling/vote-verification facility and to
enforce physical security. You would keep your receipt private, using it
for two purposes: 1. To unlock a voter registration record to be used by
Perry Metzger writes, on his cryptography list:
By the way, I should mention that an important part of such a system
is the principle that representatives from the candidates on each side
get to oversee the entire process, assuring that the ballot boxes
start empty and stay untampered with
At 11:16 PM 4/8/04 +0200, privacy.at Anonymous Remailer wrote:
In the second place, it fails for elections with more than two parties
running. The casual reference above to representatives on each
side betrays this error. Poorly funded third parties cannot provide
representatives as easily as
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:42:47 -0400
From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote
verification (to prove your vote was counted) clashes
rather directly with the requirement to protect voters
from coercion (I can't prove I voted in a particular
At 07:03 PM 4/7/2004, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling.
steve
http://www.sciencedaily.com/print.php?url=/releases/2004/04/040406083933.htm
Source:
University Of
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Cheers,
RAH
---
http://www.sciencedaily.com/print.php?url=/releases/2004/04/040406083933.htm
Source:
University Of Rhode Island
Date:
2004-04-06
URL:
http://www.economist.com/World/africa/PrinterFriendly.cfm?Story_ID=2559183
(it requires a login... article pasted below)
I specially like the part about taxation and the difficulties of
implementing it...
Somalia
Coke and al-Qaeda
Apr 1st 2004 | MOGADISHU
From The Economist print edition
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:41:45 -0400
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Bolivia is a poor country. Nevertheless, no one, however poor, ever
starves in Bolivia: food is dirt cheap and readily available.
In contrast, the government is starving to death. What joy! It is
desperate for increased revenue and is preoccupied with schemes for
new taxes etc. You may recall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Trei wrote:
Frankly, the whole online-verification step seems like an
unnecessary complication.
Except to those of us who don't trust the system.
Implemented correctly it could be cheap and complications could be
hidden
Maybe the receipt should only allow the voter to check that his vote has
been counted. To get the detail you could require him to appear in person
with his receipt AND a photo ID or some such, then only allow him to view
his detail -- not print it.
Paul Zuefeldt
- Original Message -
On 1081373018 seconds since the Beginning of the UNIX epoch
Paul Zuefeldt wrote:
Maybe the receipt should only allow the voter to check that his vote has
been counted. To get the detail you could require him to appear in person
with his receipt AND a photo ID or some such, then only allow him to
At 10:08 AM 4/8/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
And McVeigh used ammonium nitrate which wasn't tested, and as a
highly soluable (in fact deliquescent) inorganic it probably won't
persist like a nitrated organic. Also common as dirt in agville.
He also added nitromethane to the mix, obtained
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Poo poo. The difference between a potential blacknet and Gmail is that
there's little doubt that google will cough up the true names of
objectionable posters, if and when anyone looking even remotely
authoritative/governmental comes pounding on their
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Hash: SHA1
At 4:43 PM -0700 4/8/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Feel free to ignore any constructive hints of course :-) your prose
is more
identifying than your pk sig.
Apropros of actually something, that's how they used to go after
Detweiller around here when
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At 4:36 PM -0700 4/8/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
The L-5 dude? I never knew he dabbled in mental-nano-masturbation.
I'm familiar with his macroscopic living-in-$pace speculations.
No. He talked about Von Neumann machines. We don' need no
At 11:19 AM 4/8/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the
well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel fuel or equivalent heavy oil
fraction don't show up as
Ironically, some of the features of Gmail bear resemblance to BlackNet.
In particular, its claimed policy of retaining email indefinitely,
even after the recipient has stopped using the account, is reminiscent
of BlackNet's function as a data haven, as well as other Cypherpunk
projects like the
Major Variola (ret)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 11:19 AM 4/8/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the
well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel
At 9:14 PM -0700 4/7/04, Steve Schear wrote:
Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling.
On your arms? Legs? Hands?
Arabs in bunny-suits. Whadda concept.
See Mr. Mathers, below...
Cheers,
RAH
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet Bearer
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the well-...um...-dressed
terrorist...
Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel fuel or equivalent heavy oil
fraction don't show up as something unusual. Ditto inorganic
The pre-microprocessor
automation of telephony (pulse and then touchtone dialing) put
expensive automation at the top of the hierarchy, and, as costs fell,
moved down from there.
Well, from the little I can understand of what you're saying, there seems to
be some stuff worthy of at least cursory
LEAs Propose Sweeping Changes In CALEA Compliance
Mar 31, 2004
Policy Specialists Warn Of Significant
Implications
The U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation and Drug
Enforcement Administration -- referred to in telecom circles as LEAs'
(an acronym for Law Enforcement
At 05:26 AM 4/8/04 -0400, An Metet wrote:
The privacy news has been full of fuss and bluster lately about
Google's proposed Gmail service.
Cypherpunks have two somewhat contradictory positions on the issue.
First, as lovers of privacy, they will share the concerns in the letter
and they would be
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
At 4:41 AM + 4/8/04, Daniel Pineu wrote:
I am very curious about what are your views about the twin concept
of hierarchy
Hierarchy emerges as a result of the economics of information
switching.
When you have expensive nodes (brains) and
At 03:29 PM 4/8/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 11:28 AM -0700 4/8/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Geodesic means shortest path, and you'll note if you play with
tracert that the shortest path (as seen on Earth's surface) is rarely
taken.
Measure the path in time?
Yeah, some dead french dude
Polish journal Nie (means No) specialising in scandals has revealed
partial contents from 12 hard drives that have leaked from Polish
Ministry of Foreign Affairs. These drives contain more than 4000
documents from years 1992-2004, some of them labelled secret.
After the Ministry and ABW (Agencja
At 01:56 PM 4/8/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
[Nanotechology at least holds out the possibility of making Von
Neumann machines, that is, switches which make copies of themselves,
You mean Johnny's *replicators*, a vN machine is just one with
a changable program store. But you mentioned Jared
At 03:36 PM 4/8/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
As someone who was a Gerard O'Neill http://www.ssi.org/obit.html fan
long
The L-5 dude? I never knew he dabbled in mental-nano-masturbation.
I'm familiar with his macroscopic living-in-$pace speculations.
The term von Neumann machine also refers
What's annoying is that, given the kind of specious settlements in this
field and other cases, the ambulance chaser in question could probably
afford it. :-).
Cheers,
RAH
--- begin forwarded text
Subject: Fun with Lawyers
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:59:21 -0400
From: Somebody
To: [EMAIL
From: PaweÅ, Krawczyk (IPSec.PL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This case should teaches us a lot, indeed...
First, subscribe to RISKS.
= SUBSCRIPTIONS: PLEASE read RISKS as a newsgroup (comp.risks or
equivalent)
if possible and convenient for you. Alternatively, via majordomo,
send e-mail requests to
The privacy news has been full of fuss and bluster lately about
Google's proposed Gmail service. The latest complaint comes at
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/GmailLetter.htm with an open letter from
dozens of privacy groups to the Google founders asking them to revamp
the service.
Cypherpunks
I wasn't suggesting the authorities have access to your vote. The role of
the authorities is to provide the polling/vote-verification facility and to
enforce physical security. You would keep your receipt private, using it
for two purposes: 1. To unlock a voter registration record to be used by
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:42:47 -0400
From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote
verification (to prove your vote was counted) clashes
rather directly with the requirement to protect voters
from coercion (I can't prove I voted in a particular
At 11:16 PM 4/8/04 +0200, privacy.at Anonymous Remailer wrote:
In the second place, it fails for elections with more than two parties
running. The casual reference above to representatives on each
side betrays this error. Poorly funded third parties cannot provide
representatives as easily as
Brian McGroarty wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:42:47PM -0400, Ian Grigg wrote:
It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote
verification (to prove your vote was counted) clashes
rather directly with the requirement to protect voters
from coercion (I can't prove I voted in a
Perry Metzger writes, on his cryptography list:
By the way, I should mention that an important part of such a system
is the principle that representatives from the candidates on each side
get to oversee the entire process, assuring that the ballot boxes
start empty and stay untampered with
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:42:47PM -0400, Ian Grigg wrote:
Trei, Peter wrote:
Frankly, the whole online-verification step seems like an
unneccesary complication.
It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote
verification (to prove your vote was counted) clashes
rather directly
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