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2004-10-13 Thread Morlock Elloi
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Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread Nomen Nescio
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Re: Cash, Credit -- or Prints?

2004-10-13 Thread Alan Barrett
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, John Kelsey wrote: but there doesn't seem to be a clean process for determining how skilled an attacker needs to be to, say, scan my finger once, and produce either a fake finger or a machine for projecting a fake fingerprint into the reader. ... or a replacement reader

Re: Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Nomen Nescio wrote: Why don't Americans honour security and privacy higher? Good question. Basically, we're a bunch of closet fascists. Look at this page http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/prostitution_photos_current.ht ml Hey, Tinklenberg, Chi

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Re: Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread Tyler Durden
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Re: How key Microsoft legal emails 'autodestruct'

2004-10-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 12 Oct 2004 at 11:28, R.A. Hettinga wrote: The latest court documents to be unsealed by Judge Frederick Motz in Burst.com's suit against Microsoft paint a picture of Microsoft document handling procedures which destroyed the very emails that were likely to be most relevant to several

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FDA approves use of implantable chip in patients to pass medical information to doctors

2004-10-13 Thread R.A. Hettinga
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Re: Financial identity is *dangerous*? (was re: Fake companies, real money)

2004-10-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 12 Oct 2004 at 10:52, R.A. Hettinga wrote: A long time ago I came to the conclusion that the closer we get to transaction instantaneity, the less counterparty identity matters at all. That is, the fastest transaction we can think of is a cryptographically secure glop of bits that is

Re: Financial identity is *dangerous*? (was re: Fake companies, real money)

2004-10-13 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:27:20 -0700, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two problems: Kinda... 1. Instantaneous and complete transfer is irrevocable, thus attractive to ten million phishing spammers, virus witers etc. Instantaneous and complete transfer of cash to a mugger, burglar,

Re: Cash, Credit -- or Prints?

2004-10-13 Thread Alan Barrett
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, John Kelsey wrote: but there doesn't seem to be a clean process for determining how skilled an attacker needs to be to, say, scan my finger once, and produce either a fake finger or a machine for projecting a fake fingerprint into the reader. .. or a replacement reader

Re: Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread Tyler Durden
JAT wrote... Basically, we're a bunch of closet fascists. and Um, I'm sorry - maybe you hadn't heard yet: that old piece of paper was superceded on 11 Sep 01, when everything changed. I think that's the day we came out of the closet. Read, Radio Free Albemuth by P.K. Dick and you'll get the

Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread Nomen Nescio
Why don't Americans honour security and privacy higher? Look at this page http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/prostitution_photos_current.ht ml Which is from a police department! http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/ If we look at the spirit of this quote I don't see how it is ok to

Re: Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Nomen Nescio wrote: Why don't Americans honour security and privacy higher? Good question. Basically, we're a bunch of closet fascists. Look at this page http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/prostitution_photos_current.ht ml Hey, Tinklenberg, Chi

Re: How key Microsoft legal emails 'autodestruct'

2004-10-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 12 Oct 2004 at 11:28, R.A. Hettinga wrote: The latest court documents to be unsealed by Judge Frederick Motz in Burst.com's suit against Microsoft paint a picture of Microsoft document handling procedures which destroyed the very emails that were likely to be most relevant to several

Re: Financial identity is *dangerous*? (was re: Fake companies, real money)

2004-10-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 12 Oct 2004 at 10:52, R.A. Hettinga wrote: A long time ago I came to the conclusion that the closer we get to transaction instantaneity, the less counterparty identity matters at all. That is, the fastest transaction we can think of is a cryptographically secure glop of bits that is

Re: Financial identity is *dangerous*? (was re: Fake companies, real money)

2004-10-13 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:27:20 -0700, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two problems: Kinda... 1. Instantaneous and complete transfer is irrevocable, thus attractive to ten million phishing spammers, virus witers etc. Instantaneous and complete transfer of cash to a mugger, burglar,