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From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:25:03 AM US/Pacific
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hacking the Bush War Machine
Date: 13 Feb 2003 00:13
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 01:21 PM, Blanc wrote:
From Tim May:
It's our duty as hackers to hack this war machine and shut it down.
Well, I'd like to see *that*.
But you know, if N.Korea throws a nucular at us, a gun will be as
useful as
ducked ape.
(and how long are people
(or any other taxpayers) to
build another country's infrastructure.
Nation-building is the worst meme of the 20th century.
Even for oil it's not. That's the choice Exxon and BP and Shell make,
not U.S. taxpayers.
--Tim May
Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog
, I'll bet he ends up at a U.S. university, particularly if the
VSL theory gains any kind of acceptance. He spoke of one of his
colleagues who landed at UC Davis recently.
--Tim May
or of
the
solution??
...
Venal comments.
--Tim May
As my father told me long ago, the objective is not to convince someone
with your arguments but to provide the arguments with which he later
convinces himself. -- David Friedman
(or any other taxpayers) to
build another country's infrastructure.
Nation-building is the worst meme of the 20th century.
Even for oil it's not. That's the choice Exxon and BP and Shell make,
not U.S. taxpayers.
--Tim May
Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog
, I'll bet he ends up at a U.S. university, particularly if the
VSL theory gains any kind of acceptance. He spoke of one of his
colleagues who landed at UC Davis recently.
--Tim May
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote:
But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even
on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being
right no longer means mentioning guns
destruction.
I know I mispronunciate nucular. My bad.
--Tim May
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you. -- Nietzsche
the others. (Being
right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the
like would prefer that guns be in the hands of der polizei. There's a
reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by Germans.)
--Tim May
The great object is that every man be armed and everyone who
the sheeple to rush out and
buy shotguns would probably lose more lives to accidents than it
would save, if Walmart etal didn't run out of stock first.
Doubtful, but I dealt with these issues above.
--Tim May
That government is best which governs not at all. --Henry David
Thoreau
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote:
But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even
on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being
right no longer means mentioning guns
of us, I expect.
--Tim May
of the War on (Some) Dictators and the War on (Some) Drugs,
the persecutors have to pick their targets for maximum effect. Hence
the impending life sentence for the Berkeley guy who committed
thoughtcrime by writing books and articles about growing marijuana.
--Tim May
doers are
eradicated. Recommended before a trip to the desert to shoot.)
--Tim May
That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize
Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of
conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are
peaceable
of the War on (Some) Dictators and the War on (Some) Drugs,
the persecutors have to pick their targets for maximum effect. Hence
the impending life sentence for the Berkeley guy who committed
thoughtcrime by writing books and articles about growing marijuana.
--Tim May
of us, I expect.
--Tim May
or a country. I just live here. And
this is where the stuff I own is located. All I ask of government is
that they stay out of my way.
--Tim May
or a country. I just live here. And
this is where the stuff I own is located. All I ask of government is
that they stay out of my way.
--Tim May
step towards a secure, anonymous
society?
Hum, just me thinking aloud anyway. Apologies if this is in the
archives..
crypto + govenment throws up a few results...
--Tim May
step towards a secure, anonymous
society?
Hum, just me thinking aloud anyway. Apologies if this is in the
archives..
crypto + govenment throws up a few results...
--Tim May
is dying.
--Tim May
Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat. --David
Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11
, as on
every flight to date. The other crew could have transferred in their
pressure suits.
--Tim May
-into-a-corner space
agency, and some very, very tiny fraction may have actually touched
some component which made them slightly ill.
Dumb fucks, all.
--Tim May
The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any
member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm
, but touching or licking or whatever the finished packages was
not an issue.)
--Tim May
is dying.
--Tim May
Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat. --David
Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11
, as on
every flight to date. The other crew could have transferred in their
pressure suits.
--Tim May
have themes as I've described
tells us what to expect.
The statism meme is growing under hothouse conditions.
--Tim May, Corralitos, California
Quote of the Month: It is said that there are no atheists in foxholes;
perhaps there are no true libertarians in times of terrorist attacks.
--Cathy
) and
to the NRO.
--Tim May
You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher
moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know
that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. - -Michael
Shirley
for anything they can find.
When was the Fourth Amendment and a man's home is his castle
suspended?
If a property owner defends his borders with a shotgun, is he shipped
to Camp X-Ray?
Fuck this country. Fuck it dead. Osama, we beseech you!!
--Tim May
The State is the great fiction by which
-into-a-corner space
agency, and some very, very tiny fraction may have actually touched
some component which made them slightly ill.
Dumb fucks, all.
--Tim May
The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any
member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm
with a self-destruct upon reentering Earth's atmosphere
device?
First, don't think atmosphere qua atmosphere, as the satellite was
likely under vacuum most of the way down.
Second, I would do the self-destruct with accelerometers: if several
accelerations are felt, detonate.
--Tim May
They played
, but touching or licking or whatever the finished packages was
not an issue.)
--Tim May
stay hot for long. NASA is trying to get us
to feed you jive so you'll be properly frightened and won't touch
them.?
--Tim May, Occupied America
They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
investigation is going
on?
This wasn't the issue.
--Tim May
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you. -- Nietzsche
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 10:19 AM, Tim May wrote:
Last laugh: CNN is carrying (10:06 a.m. PST) an information slug at
the bottom of a Wolf Blitzer interview: Columbia was traveling 18
times faster than the speed of light.
Yes, speed of light.
This same slug has since appeared
) and
to the NRO.
--Tim May
You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher
moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know
that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. - -Michael
Shirley
for anything they can find.
When was the Fourth Amendment and a man's home is his castle
suspended?
If a property owner defends his borders with a shotgun, is he shipped
to Camp X-Ray?
Fuck this country. Fuck it dead. Osama, we beseech you!!
--Tim May
The State is the great fiction by which
,
Well, we didn't look too closely because there is nothing we could do
anyway.
Time to clean house. Time to kill the program. Time to kill NASA. It
may be necessary to hold criminal trials for the NASA officials
involved. (But since the U.S. will not do this, it may be necessary)
--Tim May
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 09:36 PM, Ralph Seberry wrote:
On Sunday, 02 Feb 2003 at 20:57, Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(I am replying to the CP list, but suppressing the name of the poster.
He/she sent his/her comments to a recipient list suppressed private
distribution. If people
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 10:19 AM, Tim May wrote:
Last laugh: CNN is carrying (10:06 a.m. PST) an information slug at
the bottom of a Wolf Blitzer interview: Columbia was traveling 18
times faster than the speed of light.
Yes, speed of light.
This same slug has since appeared
stay hot for long. NASA is trying to get us
to feed you jive so you'll be properly frightened and won't touch
them.?
--Tim May, Occupied America
They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
Directorate 117-4, so I am making no such
speculations.
--Tim May
Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little
bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now
racing down, with American flags fluttering.-- Tim May, on events
following 9/11/2001
Directorate 117-4, so I am making no such
speculations.
--Tim May
Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little
bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now
racing down, with American flags fluttering.-- Tim May, on events
following 9/11/2001
not to fly
commercially again, but for anyone who thinks trains will somehow be
exempted from the national security police state, think again.
--Tim May
, but not the subsidized mass transit system.)
--Tim May
Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.--Barry Goldwater
to spend several days traveling by train.
--Tim May
will key their paint jobs.
Railroads are for hoboes and untermenschen.
--Tim May
plan.
--Tim May
, but not the subsidized mass transit system.)
--Tim May
Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.--Barry Goldwater
to spend several days traveling by train.
--Tim May
not to fly
commercially again, but for anyone who thinks trains will somehow be
exempted from the national security police state, think again.
--Tim May
May cops
come out
every time someone suggests a different political notion.
'Tim May cops'? Not a very punk attitude you have there. You give Tim
way!
too much credit.
I don't see much apart from anarchy and capitalism - the system is in
place and running
WOT ( Wide Open Throttle ). Tim just
direct or indirect government
funding.)
Utter bullshit. Intel is very far along on 90 nm, 300 mm technologies,
none of it funded by Big Brother. You will see products based on this
before summer.
--Tim May
, this means maximizing returns (maximum
expected utility, MEU) based on local, immediate choices.
This is often called the Prisoner's Dilemma. Or greed. Or self-interest.
But what if everyone thought that way?
Then I'd be a damned fool to think otherwise, wouldn't I? (Catch-22,
paraphrased)
--Tim
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 07:59 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:38:11PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
(snip)
Since my life and my safety is vastly more valuable to me than saving
$350-$600 a year in gas, I'll be keeping my 3500-pound S-Class.
Ah, yes, the old big
perfect, no optimization makes everybody happy, at
least with free markets there is not the coercion and graft which feeds
the state.
--Tim May
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you
direct or indirect government
funding.)
Utter bullshit. Intel is very far along on 90 nm, 300 mm technologies,
none of it funded by Big Brother. You will see products based on this
before summer.
--Tim May
will appreciate his savings in gasoline for the time he owned his
Lupo.
--Tim May
, this means maximizing returns (maximum
expected utility, MEU) based on local, immediate choices.
This is often called the Prisoner's Dilemma. Or greed. Or self-interest.
But what if everyone thought that way?
Then I'd be a damned fool to think otherwise, wouldn't I? (Catch-22,
paraphrased)
--Tim
are generally free to develop your idea of a fuel cell vehicle and
to then try to sell it to customers, modulo some minor issues of safety
tests, etc.
Don't let weird ideological ideas get in the way of being able to
evaluate technologies objectively. Careful with that axe to grind,
Eugene.
--Tim May
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote:
Nonsense. What political science do you think was stopping Ford or
Honda or Volvo or GM from introducing a hydrogen fuel cell car by
1980?
What I meant is lack of lots of fat federal grants
that violate the laws of physics!. Any of
the above non-oil companies (and one can add Texas Instruments and
others to the list) which develops a more efficient, cheaper to
manufacture PV system will find success.
--Tim May
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Feds are sure inefficient, but the random dispersal of funds does tend
to
hit the far shots now and then. The private sector tends to ruthlessly
optimize on the short run (because the long shot doesn't pay if you go
broke before
will appreciate his savings in gasoline for the time he owned his
Lupo.
--Tim May
perfect, no optimization makes everybody happy, at
least with free markets there is not the coercion and graft which feeds
the state.
--Tim May
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 08:59 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:08:08PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Really, Eugene, you need to think deeply about this issue. Ask your
lab
associate, A. G., about why learning and success/failure is so
important for so many industries
, Lou, Dan, Peter, and Oprah would
probably be having the vapors.
There's always next year...
--Tim May
To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty,
my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists. --John
Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General
are generally free to develop your idea of a fuel cell vehicle and
to then try to sell it to customers, modulo some minor issues of safety
tests, etc.
Don't let weird ideological ideas get in the way of being able to
evaluate technologies objectively. Careful with that axe to grind,
Eugene.
--Tim May
that violate the laws of physics!. Any of
the above non-oil companies (and one can add Texas Instruments and
others to the list) which develops a more efficient, cheaper to
manufacture PV system will find success.
--Tim May
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Feds are sure inefficient, but the random dispersal of funds does tend
to
hit the far shots now and then. The private sector tends to ruthlessly
optimize on the short run (because the long shot doesn't pay if you go
broke before
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote:
Nonsense. What political science do you think was stopping Ford or
Honda or Volvo or GM from introducing a hydrogen fuel cell car by
1980?
What I meant is lack of lots of fat federal grants
it was intentional, a ploy by Microsoft to reach out to the
persons of color, going beyond their usual appeal to the persons of
whiteness.
Nigga's CB be what we need.
--TIm May
it was intentional, a ploy by Microsoft to reach out to the
persons of color, going beyond their usual appeal to the persons of
whiteness.
Nigga's CB be what we need.
--TIm May
felons from gun registration requirements for
exactly this reason. The law is an ass.)
--Tim May
felons from gun registration requirements for
exactly this reason. The law is an ass.)
--Tim May
this upcoming burn-off of twenty million
negroes, Mexicans, Jews, and liberals will mean.
--Tim May
this upcoming burn-off of twenty million
negroes, Mexicans, Jews, and liberals will mean.
--Tim May
will not learn anything.
Which leaves arguing with the speaker as the only reason for
going...and arguing with the speaker is not worthwhile, given the
extreme constraints on time. And given the usual pointlessness of
arguing with others.
--Tim May
will not learn anything.
Which leaves arguing with the speaker as the only reason for
going...and arguing with the speaker is not worthwhile, given the
extreme constraints on time. And given the usual pointlessness of
arguing with others.
--Tim May
effects.
But for those who like the theater, the presentation, Starbuc'ks is its
own punishment.
--Tim May
effects.
But for those who like the theater, the presentation, Starbuc'ks is its
own punishment.
--Tim May
favorites avoids any problem of others wishing to influence
U.S. trade policy.
Exactly.
--Tim May
hours of deconflciting, are insane.
In other news, Air Marshall Yossarian has acknowledged that pilots are
confused.
It'd be hilarious except that these pilots fact 60-year prison terms if
convicted of not understanding the lesson of Catch-22: Frag thy
commanding officers.
--Tim May
Dogs can't
for review. The role of government, if needed at all, should be limited
to enforcing compliance with voluntarily developed speech standards
reflecting consensus among affected interests.
...more in original article...
--
--Tim May (Mandatory Voluntary Internet Self-Rating Follows)
V-CHIP
for review. The role of government, if needed at all, should be limited
to enforcing compliance with voluntarily developed speech standards
reflecting consensus among affected interests.
...more in original article...
--
--Tim May (Mandatory Voluntary Internet Self-Rating Follows)
V-CHIP
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 08:29 AM, Steve Schear wrote:
At 10:40 PM 1/13/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 09:23 PM, John Kelsey wrote:
At 10:44 AM 1/13/03 -0800, you wrote:
If you've got your brother counting the votes,
and you can prevent anybody else from
clock blick closer to midnight.
I saw mention on the Yahoo news site that some health clubs and gyms
are already taking steps to limit the types of cellphones allowed in
the changing areas (and maybe elsewhere).
--Tim May
://www.3gnewsroom.com/3g_news/jan_03/news_2906.shtml
Hardly Brinworld. And T-Mobile has had it for awhile.
Why is warmed-over technology news given headlines?
--Tim May
clock blick closer to midnight.
I saw mention on the Yahoo news site that some health clubs and gyms
are already taking steps to limit the types of cellphones allowed in
the changing areas (and maybe elsewhere).
--Tim May
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 08:29 AM, Steve Schear wrote:
At 10:40 PM 1/13/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 09:23 PM, John Kelsey wrote:
At 10:44 AM 1/13/03 -0800, you wrote:
If you've got your brother counting the votes,
and you can prevent anybody else from
on the
spot.
You and Bill need your brains washed out with soap.
I'm not happy with Bush, to repeat this mantra that Gore/Lieberman
actually won is knavish at best.
--Tim May
abound.
--Tim May
on the
spot.
You and Bill need your brains washed out with soap.
I'm not happy with Bush, to repeat this mantra that Gore/Lieberman
actually won is knavish at best.
--Tim May
://www.3gnewsroom.com/3g_news/jan_03/news_2906.shtml
Hardly Brinworld. And T-Mobile has had it for awhile.
Why is warmed-over technology news given headlines?
--Tim May
abound.
--Tim May
want to know. Figured I'd ask for clarification on
this issue. (And from some of May's comments in the past, it wasn't
clear to me.)
As a matter of fact, I and Tim May regularly go nigger
hunting in the hills, me with my SKS. Tim May is not so
keen on those commie guns, and usually has a good old
that the United
States should adopt Israel's methods of torturing the subhumans, the
sand niggers.
The Constitution is toilet paper these days. The U.S. is preterite,
beyond salvation. Reformatting the hard drive is necessary.
--Tim May
You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher
: Some of those projects are charity-donation things,
where you click on the page and their sponsor shows you a logo
in return for donating to their page. The Landmine Clearing one
seems like a good politically correct thing to do -
Reason enough _not_ to participate.
--Tim May
, with modifiers like crypto-fascist and Buckley to
disambiguate.
Tyler Durden _really_ needs to read the archives. His cluelessness is
getting tiresome, even from his residency in my filter file.
--Tim May, Corralitos, California
Quote of the Month: It is said that there are no atheists in foxholes
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