Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread David Honig
At 03:11 PM 7/25/00 -0400, Agent Bronson wrote: I still say it's a moral failure to allow terrorism to be accepted as warfare and foolishness not to protect our land from it. Those land mines along the .mx border really have the latino votes pissed off... A freedom fighter is just a terrorist

Re: Jim Und Dave?

2000-07-26 Thread David Honig
At 07:28 PM 7/25/00 -0700, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 11:38 -0400 7/25/00, David Honig wrote: At 12:32 AM 7/25/00 -0400, Kevin Elliott wrote: were unconstitutional. Another way of putting this would be for the government to outlaw brushing ones teeth. Simple. Outlaw possession of toothbrushes

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-26 Thread David Honig
At 11:05 PM 7/25/00 -0400, Riad Wahby wrote: These two statements are totally incorrect. First of all, a computer _does_ contribute to heat in a significant way. Consider this: the average computer-grade power supply is 70% efficient, and, on average, A computer turns 100% of its load into

RE: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-26 Thread David Honig
At 12:48 AM 7/26/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: At 12:06 AM -0400 7/26/00, Ernest Hua wrote: I thought recent presidents have been declaring a state of emergency for who knows how long. But that's not what is being talked about. You are not reading carefully. The Third refers to war, and this is

RE: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-27 Thread David Honig
At 11:47 PM 7/26/00 -0400, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 00:48 -0400 7/26/00, Tim May wrote: At 12:06 AM -0400 7/26/00, Ernest Hua wrote: I thought recent presidents have been declaring a state of emergency for who knows how long. But that's not what is being talked about. You are not reading

napster trilobites

2000-07-27 Thread David Honig
When Napster goes down, there are going to be a lot of folks switching to other file-exchange indices. What is fascinating is that Napster has seeded disk drives with tradable files, introduced a lot of people to the concept. Trilobites didn't make it, but they sure fed a lot of critters

Re: Welcome to Crypto World

2000-07-27 Thread David Honig
At 01:02 PM 7/27/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: To elaborate on "generatable," something like a "CAD program for crypto" is what we were talking about. Bob Baldwin, when he was at A library implementing a clean API or a new domain-specific language? The latter tend to die out. The former tend to

Re: [Press Release List] RMI.NET TO PROTECT INTERNET USERS'

2000-07-31 Thread David Gotlieb
can anyone tell me how to get off this list? David Gotlieb

Re: [Press Release List] RMI.NET TO PROTECT INTERNET USERS'

2000-07-31 Thread David Gotlieb
THANKS, DLG

Re: USPO still trying to SPAM everyone

2000-08-03 Thread David Honig
At 12:59 AM 8/1/00 -0400, Ray Dillinger wrote: Try completely ignoring your paper mail sometime and see how long it is before you're in trouble with the law for missing a jury duty summons or a bill or some legal action or other. UDP, baby.

Re: British Authorities May Get Wide Power to Decode E-Mail

2000-08-06 Thread David Marshall
Steven Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marcel Popescu wrote: goat porn g That's not as funny as you think it is. I used to joke at work about spending all my time looking at porn. Then I started to receive porn by email at work. (Best guess is that spammers scooped my name from

Re: Cryptome Ex-CIA Link

2000-08-09 Thread David Honig
At 06:40 PM 8/9/00 -0400, A. Melon wrote: On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, John Young wrote: For his family's privacy I won't tell his name here, for now, but it won't be hard to learn -- a search of the Internet will provide information. Some accounts call him "a legend," and I would like to learn more

yet another classified laptop gone... State this time

2000-08-10 Thread David Honig
Has anyone checked behind the photocopier? Aug 10, 2000 - 09:27 AM Reward offered for laptop The Associated Press WASHINGTON - The State Department announced yesterday a $25,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of a

Re: DCSB: Hapgood and Johansson; Post-Napster Models for

2000-08-11 Thread David Honig
At 10:52 AM 8/11/00 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Fred Hapgood and Eric Johansson presenting "Post-Napster Business Models for Digital Commerce" Apparently no relation to the Johansson of

Re: FBI copyright sting

2000-08-12 Thread David Marshall
Michael Motyka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The investigation, still under way, has resulted in charges against five individuals, officials at the Justice Department and U.S. Customs Service said. They said another five have pleaded guilty to

Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig
At 07:03 PM 8/14/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: I could probably come up with uses for cat pee if I set my mind to it. I'm having considerable difficulty with the idea of commercially- available cat pee. Is it sanitized? Are Dept of Health certificates needed? How on earth can you make a profit

Re: The Sound Of Security?

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig
At 04:25 AM 8/15/00 -0400, A. Melon wrote: New credit-card technology uses sound waves to enforce security So now in addition to shoulder-surfing we worry about ultrasonic tape recorders...

Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig
At 09:36 PM 8/14/00 -0400, Eric Murray wrote: Horses are much more visual than anything else In that case the polihooligans should dress up in strange costumes. Only the horses that have worked the SF parades (or certain parts of Hollywood) would be able to deal with the sights...

Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig
At 12:56 AM 8/15/00 -0400, Reese wrote: Horse manure accomplishes the same thing, if used instead of cattle manure as a fertilizer. Well just as the hoohah got started, someone from PETA dropped a ton of horse manure on the hotel steps. Didn't keep the pigs or horses away. (The activist was

Re: Quantum Cryptography and resistance

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig
At 01:37 PM 8/15/00 -0400, Timothy Brown wrote: Hey, folks - Can anyone provide pointers for the layman to documents describing theoretical cryptosystems resistant to quantum cryptanalysis? The assumption is made that those systems would be implemented on quantum computing devices. Essentially

Re: Quantum Cryptography and resistance

2000-08-16 Thread David Honig
At 01:42 PM 8/16/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hence it will be necessary to scale up the QC from 5 bits to 1024 bits or more. This will take years of work and no one knows if it will be possible. Current Quantum Computer Engineering in 5 lines or less: The current approach requires

notes on eweek's bank audit

2000-08-17 Thread David Honig
eweek's 14 Aug issue had a description of a bank's hired blackhat audit. Interesting highlights (p 55): 1. the bank's ISP, upon discovering that the bank had caused a security alert, thereafter changed its policy to ban security probes without telling the ISP. (Which kinda defeats

Blowfish and IDEA in Silicon

2000-08-18 Thread David Honig
unfinished. David

Re: trial panic?

2000-08-18 Thread David Honig
At 01:24 PM 8/18/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the horse was out of the barn for a long time, but with the ruling today, it's clear that it's not even in the country anymore. Kaplan said not only are horses illegal, you can't even refer to them.

Re: Sniffer Routs Out Drunk Drivers

2000-08-20 Thread David Honig
At 07:54 PM 8/19/00 -0400, Bill Stewart wrote: Out of curiousity, does anybody know whether it detects ethanol itself or leftovers from metabolizing the ethanol? Since you excrete ethanol through your breath, and its easy enough to detect (colorimetric assays = reagents photocell, possibly

anticonstitutional symbols

2000-08-20 Thread David Honig
Europe's (well, Germany's, but see also yahoo.fr) lack of constitutional rights: anticonstitutional symbols http://cryptome.org/mad/mad-v-mann.htm Outlawing speech, assembly, etc, and general state opinion engineering: "That means that in social work with youths, it must be

Black Hoes screw Disney, trample free speech

2000-08-22 Thread David Honig
Disney to Settle Racial Bias Suit Over Radio Gag By CHUCK PHILIPS, Times Staff Writer Walt Disney Co. has agreed to pay $2

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-24 Thread David Honig
At 01:09 AM 8/24/00 -0400, L. Sassaman wrote: Please explain to me how you could have a public gathering of anonymous individuals. I don't think that it is possible to do what is being proposed: plan, anonymously, a gathering of people organized on the Internet and conducted in physical space.

Re: deriving yarrow test vectors

2000-08-25 Thread David Honig
At 06:26 PM 8/24/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: At 3:08 PM -0400 8/24/00, Marcel Popescu wrote: Speaking of which - does anybody have any hints on how to determine the entropy of an input string? [Needed in Yarrow, and so far I don't know how to do it - my implementation multiplies the length of the

Can Tipper Gore own a gun?

2000-08-27 Thread David Honig
At 10:23 PM 8/26/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: (I haven't said this in a while: basic constitutional rights do not get lost because one was once a prisoner or person in a psychiatric prison. If one is in prison, certain rights are naturally lost by nature of the act of imprisonment. Once out of

Re: Why Cops and Cypherpunk Meetings Don't Go Together

2000-08-27 Thread David Honig
At 12:07 AM 8/27/00 -0400, petro wrote: Oh, that's good. Let's say I own and live in a large house with several vacant apartments. Shouldn't I be able to stop arbitrary people from moving in? Even if they're willing to pay, should I be able to prevent them from moving in if they smoke or want to

Re: family of russion sub victims drugged

2000-08-27 Thread David Honig
At 05:46 PM 8/26/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: Untraceable contract killings, crypto anarchy, is about to make possible a wave of justice the world has never seen. Forget Bell's hoaky, and cumbersome, "betting pool." Easier to simply hire assassins untraceably. (If bets can be placed untraceably,

Re: A way to discourage advertising

2000-08-29 Thread David Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's my idea of how to stop advertisers from using this mailing list as an advertising channel: If everytime anyone saw junk mail here, they wrote to the address of the sender and/or the address where you send an e-mail if you're interested, and told them

Re: Your Net

2000-08-29 Thread David Marshall
Ken Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do I hate spam so much? I mean I don't get very angry at having my doormat filled with snailmail offers of expensive loans, plastic window frames and cheap mail-order garden plants. But spam like this gets me cross. Maybe I've come to think of my

MP3 and MP4 should be banned

2000-08-30 Thread David Honig
Tech Review Sept/Oct 2000 p 34 G Pascal Zachary "Tools such as MP3 and MP4 should be banned Any ban on a software tool will spawn illegal traffic in that tool..." from a column called, amazingly, "Inside Innovation" Fortunately this dinosaur twit has only his opinion and a few column

MPAA honeypot (Re: MPAA thinks linking is illegal

2000-08-30 Thread David Honig
At 04:09 PM 8/30/00 -0400, Greg Newby wrote: I was forced to remove my copy of the DeCSS code this spring by UNC as a result of a complaint by the MPAA. Now, the MPAA is trying to force me to remove a LINK to the code from my class page. This is enough to make me want to throw up. First, You

Re: Is kerberos broken?

2000-08-31 Thread David Honig
At 12:00 PM 8/31/00 -0400, Joseph Ashwood wrote: No but I feel free to type a hundred or so, but that's beside the point. The claim made was that anything a human can remember, a computer can brute force, this was simply one very clear example that it simply was not true, as I rather thoroughly

Re: curfew

2000-08-31 Thread David Marshall
"pentz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: curfews have always been up to the parents I don't think the city should set a curfew However, I think your parents should lock you up for being stupid, putz.

Re: curfew

2000-09-01 Thread David Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: besides your rude, bullshit comments, do you have anything worth wile to say to back you up?!? or are you just being a dumb-fuck and talking out of your ass? When you and Putz post something on-topic, or bother to produce something

Re: Robert Cailliau: turncoat?

2000-09-01 Thread David Marshall
Sean Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nature of the beast. You "create" something, and you feel that you should decide how it's used. If you "create" a podium, and someone steps up and gives a speach that is diametrically opposed to what you stand for, or even slightly different, you're

Re: Robert Cailliau: turncoat?

2000-09-01 Thread David Honig
At 10:52 PM 8/31/00 -0400, Sean Roach wrote: Nature of the beast. You "create" something, and you feel that you should decide how it's used. Also Frankenstein phenomenon... If you "create" a podium, and someone steps up and gives a speach that is diametrically opposed to what you stand

Re: Whipped Europeans

2000-09-01 Thread David Honig
At 09:56 AM 9/1/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: Nuh. I think they should be happy about biology education - might one day give them a nice young crackpot with the talent to create a drug user killing flu... Then they lose a taxpayer or at least prison slave labor. The US govt funds research

Re: Whipped Europeans

2000-09-01 Thread David Honig
At 06:42 AM 9/1/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: Why, that was indeed done. I printed the news article (CNN or some such) but can't find either the printout or the reference, so what follows is short on details. I read about it maybe a year ago. A scientist in California let his son borrow his

Re: curfew

2000-09-01 Thread David Marshall
Ah, it's the slow season. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Claim that, among other things, the claim that he isn't quoting is false, deleted.] [Sentence fragment in which he totally misses the point deleted.] [Complaint that he was profiled due to his lack of quoting and his trolling deleted. Also

Re: RC4 source as a literate program

2000-09-03 Thread David Honig
At 09:48 PM 9/1/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: (Not taking anything away from Furlong's work. I bought Knuth's book on LP, circa 1994 or so, but never got into it in a major way--being a Lisp and Smalltalk kind of person, I didn't see the point. But, to be fair, there was much discussion of "how can

Re: RC4 source as a literate program

2000-09-03 Thread David Honig
At 09:14 AM 9/2/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: begin quoted material As the President has made clear, encryption software is regulated because it has the technical capacity to encrypt data and by that jeopardize American security interests, not because of its expressive content. Exec. Order No.

Re: ..do not count on the anonymity of the Internet to serve

2000-09-03 Thread David Honig
At 06:56 PM 9/1/00 -0400, Bill Orme wrote: According to one law enforcement spokesperson: "Anyone who would use the Internet to commit a crime should understand one thing -- do not count on the anonymity of the Internet to serve as a shield for your illegal conduct. As technology advances, so do

Re: Whipped Europeans

2000-09-03 Thread David Honig
At 09:46 AM 9/2/00 -0400, A. Melon wrote: People have grafted hops vines onto cannabis roots for years, that ain't no net legend. Hops and C.s. are closely related, and grafting ain't genetic surgery. Catnip is also related, which explains certain feline behaviors. (Just kidding,

Re: RC4 source as a literate program

2000-09-03 Thread David Marshall
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 09:14 AM 9/2/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: begin quoted material As the President has made clear, encryption software is regulated because it has the technical capacity to encrypt data and by that jeopardize American security interests

Re: Whipped Europeans

2000-09-03 Thread David Marshall
Sampo A Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, David Marshall wrote: Not to mention that there exists a certain peptide, the name of which escapes me at the moment, which is naturally occuring in the brain. It is five amino acids long, and exerts an effect about 5000 times

Re: Whipped Europeans

2000-09-04 Thread David Honig
At 04:17 PM 9/3/00 -0400, David Marshall wrote: On the topic of the blood-brain barrier, another example is compounds There's also a trick where you can add an acetyl group to a small molecule (not protein) to increase transport. Do it to salicylic acid, you get aspirin. Do it to morphine, you

Re: Treatment of subjugated people (and bagpipes)

2000-09-04 Thread David Honig
At 05:18 PM 9/4/00 -0400, Tiarnan O Corrain wrote: Perhaps my analogy of New York and Californain English was misleading The difference there is more in what and how they conceptualize, rather than being simply linguistic. :-) :-P

Black Rock, Nev

2000-09-05 Thread David Honig
Black Rock, Nev (Routers) Air Force spokeswoman Jane Denning apologized for the accidental detonation of a fuel-air munition above the "Burning Man" campgrounds, blaming the error on outdated National Imagery and Mapping Agency maps that showed the area as part of an active nearby bombing

Re: Permutations in DES

2000-09-05 Thread David Honig
At 08:00 PM 9/5/00 -0400, Augusto Jun Devegili wrote: Hi all, I was just wondering... In DES, there's an Initial Permutation (IP) on the plaintext, then 16 rounds, and then the inverse permutation (IP^-1) of the result to produce the ciphertext. How effective are these permutations? Do they

Re: 128-bit netscaoe v4 for bellsouth.net

2000-09-05 Thread David Marshall
Sonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hello I would like to know if Netscape communictor version 4.* is available for bellsouth.net with 128-bit encryption. Pleas Email me Is there a message hidden in these messages of blithe idiocy, possibly hidden in the typos? Maybe revealable by some odd

Re: Cryptome Ex-CIA Link

2000-08-14 Thread David Honig
At 05:21 PM 8/11/00 -0400, A. Melon wrote: No. JY, if anything, should be given less of a break. He is a so-called champion of full disclosure. Refusing to reveal information because it affects *his* family, when he has shown such blatant disregard for others' families in the past, is atrocious.

Re: Princess Di, Echelon, the Trial Lawyers

2000-08-31 Thread David Honig
At 08:17 PM 8/31/00 -0400, Rich Ankney wrote: Yeah, but there's always the old "sources and methods" excuse (based on personal experience). Seems to require many more lawyer cycles than I can afford... The notion of a foreigner suing the spooks for data is comedy, not something to be

Re: curfew

2000-09-01 Thread David Marshall
I'll assume you're talking to me. Since you didn't include any quoted material with an attribution, I have no context for what you're rambling on about. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll assume that you're talking to me. Since you didn't bother to include any quoted material with an attribution,

Germans to tax PCs for Lars

2000-09-06 Thread David Honig
Germany Reportedly Plans 'Internet Tax' BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany is planning to slap new levies on computer, telecommunications and Internet products to ensure that authors are properly rewarded for the use of their work, a newspaper said Wednesday.

new brit spybook simmering

2000-09-06 Thread David Honig
nt went to great lengths to try to ban the Spycatcher memoirs of former MI5 bugging expert Peter Wright. Ex-MI5 officer David Shayler has returned to Britain to face charges under the O

Re: Germans to tax PCs for Lars

2000-09-07 Thread David Honig
At 06:15 AM 9/7/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: not quite right. it is NOT the government that collects, and this is not a tax. there's a "non-profit" organisation called GEMA that collects and re-distributes these things. So if you don't pay GEMA who *are* those folks with the guns?

Re: Germans to tax PCs for Lars

2000-09-08 Thread David Honig
At 05:10 AM 9/8/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: David Honig wrote: not quite right. it is NOT the government that collects, and this is not a tax. there's a "non-profit" organisation called GEMA that collects and re-distributes these things. So if you don't pay GEMA who *are* t

Re: Permutations in DES

2000-09-08 Thread David Honig
At 08:02 PM 9/7/00 -0400, Kevin Elliott wrote: Does this method work for apps that are generating and testing lots of keys or does the initial key generation step still have to be undertaken? The whole point of the blowfish technique was to increase the attackers required effort. It was

Re: Germans to tax PCs for Lars

2000-09-08 Thread David Honig
At 05:59 PM 9/8/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, David Honig wrote: Ultimately law is backed by violence. And therefore it is badyadda, yadda, yadda Bullshit. That is such a general statement as to be worthless. The 'law' stems from the individual right to self-defence

Re: DNA

2000-09-12 Thread David Marshall
Michael Motyka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does UV light destroy DNA? I know it is a reasonable way to sterilize water ( with some caveats ) which it does by denaturing proteins. UV light tends to totally hose up the DNA. The main problem, at least in bacteria, is caused by the creation of a

Re: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school

2000-09-13 Thread David Honig
At 05:38 PM 9/13/00 -0400, William H. Geiger III wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/13/00 at 12:59 PM, "A. Melon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Subject: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school Middle school student arrested in poisoning Exactly how do you get "domestic bioterrorism" from a

Re: censorship rears its head

2000-09-14 Thread David Marshall
Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will look forward to watching the coverage. Do you plan to take out just the censorious bitch Lynne Cheney, or also her censorious husband and VP candidate? And then there's Al Gore (RAT) and his running mate (JEW RAT). (Subliminal messages brought

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-13 Thread David Honig
At 05:14 PM 9/13/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: At 4:57 PM -0400 9/13/00, Omri Schwarz wrote: Actually, she got shot at and roughed up by AN members. (AN has a habit of disavowing relations with members once they get in trouble with The Elders of Zion.) This woman and her daughter just "happened" to

Re: Abortion Assasination Politics likely going to Supremes

2000-09-13 Thread David Honig
At 04:19 PM 9/12/00 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote: More stuff for Freenet, it seems. I'm really curious how "they" would consider handling such documents instead MP3s - better or worse? Heh. How about someone reading names addresses of judges/physicians/whatever in an MP3, and circulating that?

Re: is there any way ?

2000-09-17 Thread David Marshall
"Dark Horse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hello :) well I thought I will have no answer as I had no answer writing to some cracker's email They've developed language skills? Man, I should have gone into food research. I don't think I could handle the bread products communicating with me,

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-18 Thread David Honig
At 10:38 AM 9/18/00 -0400, petro wrote: I'm not saying that only stupid people join these kinds of groups, but that of the people who join these groups, the stupid ones will wind up in the "bullet stopper" positions. "Cannon fodder" is the more common historic term.. Maxim's maxim:

Re: censorship rears its head

2000-09-18 Thread David Marshall
Sampo A Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, David Marshall wrote: [My comments concerning blood flows not corresponding directly with increased neural activity, followed by Mr. Syreeni's response to the contrary.] Actually bloodflow has been found more accurate

reputation required for evolution of cooperation in _Science_

2000-09-22 Thread David Honig
Science V 289 8 Sept 2000 p 1773-1775 "Fairness vs Reason in the Ultimatum Game" Nowak, Page, Sigmund (from the abstract) "The rational solution, suggested by game theory, is for the proposer to offer the smallest possible share and for teh responder to accept it. If humans play the game,

Re: nettime Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-23 Thread David Honig
At 09:17 AM 9/23/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote: video game market with respect to selling adult games to children. Video games are machines, I've never met an adult machine, though I did call that PDP "sir". Who gets to decide what content is appropriate for my children? Surely not the state.

Re: nettime Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-23 Thread David Honig
At 12:09 PM 9/23/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote: It is the target audience the game is designed for. If you seriously claim you don't understand the distinction between market targets for Dr. Seuss, Quake, and "Debbie does Dallas" then you're entire position is pretty much toast. To whom something

Re: nettime Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-23 Thread David Honig
At 01:42 PM 9/23/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote: The failure of capitalism is the failure to recognize that human beings have rights and that business is simply an expression of individual rights. Rights allow one to pursue an activity until that behaviour infringes anothers right to engage in their

Re: nettime Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-24 Thread David Honig
At 08:19 PM 9/23/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote: On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, David Honig wrote: Having a child gives you no extra rights to control others' behavior. No? It gives the parent the right to tell other parties to leave the child alone. It also means the parent has the responsibility

Re: nettime Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-25 Thread David Honig
At 04:36 AM 9/25/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: So how do you feel, for instance, about bullying in the form of cooperative isolation of someone by his/her peers? Certainly everybody has the /right/ not to speak to someone... Freedom of association includes freedom not to associate. Only

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread David Honig
At 06:52 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's so very different about doing the same thing with IR? Heh, maybe someone should take some IR

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread David Honig
At 06:48 PM 9/27/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: There is no real reason for crypto to be built into complex products, at least not when those products are well-suited for handling text (and even files). ... To wit, who really cares whether Netscape 4.08 or 4.07 has crypto built in so long as a

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-28 Thread David Honig
At 01:51 PM 9/28/00 -0400, Michael Motyka wrote: You're running these crypto modules on an MS OS? Plaintext is entered via the PC HW/MS Drivers and then exists in memory on the MS system? This probably describes the environment for most users, though not necessarily most of those on this list.

Re: Bad Coding Practices

2000-09-29 Thread David Honig
At 09:00 PM 9/28/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: "Trei, Peter" wrote: NSA et al inducing a company to write bad crypto software 2. Individual treachery. This type involves corrupting one or more engineers, whether via money, threats, or misplaced appeals to patriotism. This is more likely

Re: Info retrieval with known drivers license

2000-09-26 Thread David Honig
At 12:26 PM 9/26/00 -0400, Jill Stone wrote: If you know a Drivers License number, do you know how to retrieve the registration information? js A small contribution to the personal fund of a DMV clerk works well..

Re: Why Free Speech Matters

2000-09-26 Thread David Honig
At 12:01 PM 9/26/00 -0400, Olav wrote: The hint of illegality? Well, of course this is a reason, but the question remains that if all people had legal access to nationalsocialist propaganda such as "Mein Kampf", would the fact that that mainpart of our Actually MK *is* available online to

Re: stego for the censored

2000-10-05 Thread David Honig
At 08:36 AM 10/5/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: the problem with porn is that it may be illegal in itself in the same countries. Baby pictures, if there's a plausible interest on the receiving side. MP3s of apolitical songs.

Re: stego for the censored

2000-10-06 Thread David Honig
At 10:52 AM 10/6/00 -0400, Ray Dillinger wrote: For the sake of us audiophiles, please don't. MP3 is tinny and flat at best; Then why are you 'audiophiles' traumatizing yourselves by listening to it? it ticks me off that most folks seem to hear it as "good enough", because if most folks

Re: stego for the censored

2000-10-06 Thread David Honig
At 07:05 AM 10/6/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: I'm currently thinking of whether or not it is feasable to put stego data into EVERY .mp3 downloaded. just put random data into those not intended to carry a message. Problem is that repeatedly decoding an .mp3 into a .wav, then feeding the .wav and the

Re: Gores teens and drugs

2000-10-06 Thread David Honig
At 09:17 AM 10/6/00 -0400, Joe Baptista wrote: Anyway - this child is now fully grown and is the biggest drugs fiend and womanizer we have in canada. No one cares and rightly so. Well we have the Kennedys...

Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread David Honig
At 02:39 AM 10/8/00 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: Require ISPs to get a license to operate. Terms can be set arbitrarily high. (Bonus points if you make them pay for the monitoring hardware, software, and governmental labor.) Wasn't a "license to drive" on the "info superhighway" bandied about

Re: proggies

2000-10-08 Thread David Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: please send me prggies thanks Cypherpunks Industries would be happy to ship you pregnant laboratory rats, transgenically altered to produce delta-tetrahydrocannabinol. These pregnant rats have been nicknamed "preggies" by our staff, in a combination of "pregnant" and

RE: New OLD cryptograph patent for NSA

2000-10-12 Thread David Honig
At 12:36 PM 10/12/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: In a crypto anarchic society, patents will mostly be moot.) Really? If you have a factory, or open a virtual storefront, you have a public (meat, seizable) presence. Patents are enforced by guns against locatable assets which have exploited the

Re: Think cash

2000-10-12 Thread David Honig
resting on a plane. You seem to be supposing that human perceptual algorithms (and the illusions they produce) are somehow unknowable or unreplicable by nonanimal machinery. This is meat chauvinism. Look into David Marr's _Vision_ for starters... or Grossburg's (of BU) stuff.. Now back to your

Re: Burglar Politics, Tempesting PC's that watch TV and DVD

2000-10-12 Thread David Honig
At 09:10 PM 10/12/00 -0400, Bill Stewart wrote: with raw pins pointing out. I'm not sure if my PC was in "use both displays" mode or "only use the LCD" mode - most laptops don't have an indicator other than "the LCD is dark"... A good reason for the airlines asking you to keep your radiating

RE: New OLD cryptograph patent for NSA

2000-10-13 Thread David Honig
At 10:55 PM 10/12/00 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: It's often hard to tell whether a physical object violates a given patent or not - bitspace is often pretty subtle stuff, especially if it's manufacturing methods rather than end results that are the subject of the patent. But increasingly, the

reverse engineering pedigrees (was Re: why should it be

2000-10-19 Thread David Honig
At 12:20 PM 10/19/00 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: Assuming, of course, that the birth records accurately reflect parentage. If you take a course in human genetics you're likely to be astonished at the rate of fooling around that must occur to account for the appearence of traits within families -

re:Tim May's anti-semitic rants

2000-10-19 Thread David Honig
At 04:18 PM 10/19/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Hushpart_boundary_WIoYstciRMrFMmoZmKueyEZopGecZvAX Content-type: text/plain Typical of May to wish that those who he hates be nuked, but please don'tt let it effect his portfolio. No, he's saying its legit if the aborigines take back

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 05:08 AM 10/20/00 -0400, petro wrote: It is "immoral" to commit murder. Is this because God Says So, or because it's generally better for society if we can assume that the vast majority of people *won't* be trying to shoot us? Neither are worthwhile reasons. Others' right to exist

Re: Insurance (was: why should it be trusted?)

2000-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 04:00 AM 10/20/00 -0400, petro wrote: Lots of socialists to be dealt with and disposed of. I wonder who will stoke the furnaces? Robots? Amusing cross-language double-entendre there, Petro. Robot is from "slave", in Czech IIRC.

It's all property, folks (was Re: Insurance (was: why

2000-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 07:51 AM 10/20/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote: My lungs are property. If some one injures them, I have a tort. I don'tô even need legislation. Well, you are apparently the one doing the damage - who the fuck told you to breathe in the first place?

sieving the gene pool -not just Iceland

2000-10-21 Thread David Honig
Estonia plans to raise between 1e8 and 1.5e8 dollars for a project to begin next year, to "compile DNA profiles and health information on75%ofthe country's 1.4 million citizens" ... "by contrast, [to Iceland's anonymity] the data and DNA samples in the Estonian project will be identifiable

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