Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-28 Thread Harmon Seaver
I'm having a very difficult time comprehending how plant lights could even remotely be construed as "probable cause" -- don't the courts have any idea of the millions of little old ladies (and whoever) who use plant lights for their house plants? Or of the multitudes who use them to

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-28 Thread Tim May
At 3:10 PM -0400 9/28/00, Harmon Seaver wrote: I'm having a very difficult time comprehending how plant lights could even remotely be construed as "probable cause" -- don't the courts have any idea of the millions of little old ladies (and whoever) who use plant lights for their house

IR TEMPESTING (was Re: police IR searches to Supremes)

2000-09-28 Thread sunder
Richard Fiero wrote: One could argue that all electromagnetic radiation is in the public domain and receivable. However it is illegal to have equipment capable of receiving cell phone conversations because the rights of the telephone company and the rights of the conversants could be

IR TEMPESTING (was Re: police IR searches to Supremes)

2000-09-28 Thread Steven Furlong
sunder wrote: Another option would be to get big huge water circulators and call it art - there are a few restaurants here in NYC where they have water running over glass panes. It's a nice calming waterfall effect. :) That's a good idea. It should stop the laser-off-the-windows accoustic

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Steve Furlong wrote: Supreme Court to hear thermal peeking case By MICHAEL KIRKLAND snip most of the article I don't see how any rational mind could see this type of search as allowed under the US 4th Amendment. Too bad no jurist has asked my opinion. Well, I think

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread David Honig
At 06:52 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's so very different about doing the same thing with IR? Heh, maybe someone should take some IR

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread jim bell
- Original Message - X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Sampo A Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:52 AM Subject: Re: police IR searches to Supremes On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Steve Furlong wrote: Supreme Court

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread Richard Fiero
Sampo A Syreeni writes: . . . Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's so very different about doing the same thing with IR? Sampo Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED], aka decoy,

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread POF
At 08:50 PM 9/27/00 -0400, you wrote: just the wall temperature. This kind of surveillance is clearly invasive, in my opinion. surveillance, regarless of the inevitable (sp?) conversation about the need/desire for it, is by nature invasive. so it seems that you'd mean "unacceptably invasive"