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he is an arrogant, obnoxious, power-hungry asshole with no moral
integrity whatsoever.]
Adam Back wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:17:06PM +0200, Anonymous wrote:
And second, because the deposit is unlinkable to the
At 8:30 AM +0200 on 4/11/02, Anonymous exfumed out of Vienna again:
[By forwarding this mail to the DBS list,
Done...
Robert Hettinga agrees that
he is an arrogant,
Check...
obnoxious,
Check...
power-hungry
Check...
asshole
Walter-Brennan-as-Stinky-Pete Now yew wait jes' a
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Adam Back wrote:
You don't need the minter's secret key to identify the double-spender.
Anyone who happens to see two coin transcripts answering different
challenges with the same coin private key can recover all the
attributes of the coin, including the identity
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:47:51PM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote:
In the smart card setting with Brands protocols there is a host
computer (eg pda, laptop, mobile-phone main processor, desktop) and a
tamper-resistant smart-card which computes part of the coin transfer
and prevents
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Adam Back wrote:
Is there anything specific PKILAB have said about Brands certs?
No, it was early in the set up when it was discussed. Sounds like
they want to at least listen to him :-)
btw I did a google search for PKILAB and Brands to see if I could find
anything
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 07:52:32PM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote:
While I agree with goal, it's not clear to me that it's physically
possible. What makes money useful is it's physical existance, people
have been counterfiting coins since they were invented but it's been
getting harder to do.
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own sandbox if he
Adam Back wrote:
[...snip...]
Another example would be having to give a deposit to get mobile phone
for people with poor credit ratings. Also in Europe pay as you go,
cash only mobile phone usage is popular due to credit elegibility
reasons also I think. You can plunk down a 10 pound note
At 8:37 AM +0200 on 4/9/02, Some Anonymous Flatualist emitted the following
bit of flammable gas out of an Austrian remailer somewhere:
And BTW permission is NOT granted to
forward this or any part of it to the DBS list because Hettinga is an
asshole who kicks people off his list for spite.
Ben Laurie wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not just an extra feature; an off-line system inherently requires
users to identify themselves to the bank at withdrawal time. It cannot
allow users to anonymously exchange coins at the bank. So it has an
inherent lack of anonymity which is not
On 9 Apr 2002 at 16:54, Ken Brown wrote:
But paper money is such a 20th-century thing! These days we're slowly
drifting back to higher value metal coins (2 pounds out for a few years
now, 5 pounds coming soon I think). Much more fun. Feels like real
treasure! Less of the floppy stuff, we
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Trei, Peter wrote:
I was living in Britain (and of an allowance-recieving age) when
decimalization
occured. While we lost the big penny, we gained the 50p piece. In those
days,
it was a large, heavy, seven-sided coin, bigger than a US half-dollar, and
worth
$1.20. It
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Ken Brown wrote:
I'd rather have stiff cards than floppy paper ones. At least you can put
them into the slot of a machine easily.
But with an RF tag you'd not even have to pull it out
Peter Trei writes:
Speaking for myself and a few friends and relations, we'd
be perfectly happy to use them, if they were available.
A good place to get Sacagawea dollars is from the stamp machine at your
local post office. Put in a $20 bill and buy as small an amount of
stamps as you can,
The issue with off-line cash is this: has the coin being offered already
been spent?
With on-line cash, the offered coin is immediately deposited at the bank,
hence doubly-spent coins are detected instantly. With off-line cash
this cannot be done because by definition there is no connection to
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