Re: Color Laser Printer Snitch Codes

2005-10-19 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
At 12:24 PM 10/17/05 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: >Soon we'll find out that toothbrushes are able to determine what I ate for >dinner and are regularly sending the info... Soon there will be sensors in urinals that page the DEA..

Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema. LAS VEGAS (AP) -- New York Times reporter Judith Miller defended her decision to go to jail to protect a source and

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-19 Thread cyphrpunk
> Just presented at ICETE2005 by Daniel Nagy: > > http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf > > Abstract. In present paper a novel approach to on-line payment is > presented that tackles some issues of digital cash that have, in the > author s opinion, contributed to the fact that d

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-19 Thread Daniel A. Nagy
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 11:27:53PM -0700, cyphrpunk wrote: > > Just presented at ICETE2005 by Daniel Nagy: > > > > http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf > > This is a thorough and careful paper but the system has no blinding > and so payments are traceable and linkable. The standar

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Chris Clymer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My understanding is that she only went to jail because of a federal law passed in the early 80's designed to protect undercover federal agents. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I was under the impression that were it not for that law, there would be no

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Shawn Duffy
Unfortunately, it's not as simple as protecting a source. Most shield laws, or proposed shield laws, as I understand them, protect a journalist from revealing a source who is exposing wrongdoing that is in the public interest. This is not the same thing. The act of leaking the identity of Ms. Pl

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Chris Clymer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're just trolling, right? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to p

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Gil Hamilton
> On 10/19/05, Chris Clymer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're just trolling, right? [snip] > Major Variola (ret.) wrote: > >>So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists >>should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class >>journalists mentioned? She n

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Gil Hamilton
Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: On 2005-10-19T19:59:18+, Gil Hamilton wrote: > > Reporters should have no rights the rest of us don't have. It's hard to > imagine the framers of the constitution approving an amendment that said > freedom of the press is granted to all those who first apply

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Gil Hamilton
Dave Howe wrote: Gil Hamilton wrote: > The problem is that reporters want to be made into a special class of > people that don't have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us. Are > you a reporter? Am I? Is the National Inquirer? How about Drudge? > What about bloggers? Which agency will

Re: [Politech] More on Barney lawyer yearning to hack copyright infringers' sites [ip]

2005-10-19 Thread Justin
On 2005-10-19T10:37:55-0700, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Previous Politech message: > http://www.politechbot.com/2005/10/17/barney-lawyer-recommends/ > Responses: > http://www.politechbot.com/2005/10/19/more-on-barney/ Some of the first-round responses mentioned the iniquities involved in attacking

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Dave Howe
Gil Hamilton wrote: > The problem is that reporters want to be made into a special class of > people that don't have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us. Are > you a reporter? Am I? Is the National Inquirer? How about Drudge? > What about bloggers? Which agency will you have to apply

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-19 Thread Justin
On 2005-10-19T19:59:18+, Gil Hamilton wrote: > > Reporters should have no rights the rest of us don't have. It's hard to > imagine the framers of the constitution approving an amendment that said > freedom of the press is granted to all those who first apply for and > receive permission fr