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2002-04-23 Thread John Young
http://www.techtv.com/cybercrime/features/story/0,23008,3381901,00.html A Most Deadly Game CyberCrime' investigates a website that calls for contract killings of public officials. Is it an exercise in free speech or a manifesto for murder? Find out more, Tuesday

Quantum mechanics, England, and Topos Theory

2002-04-23 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 11:18 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > Back nearer to on-topic, Tim's explanation why the world could not be > predicted even if it were locally (microscopically) predictable sounds > spot-on. It's not my idea, obviously. But the fact that I wrote it so quickly, and so glib

RE: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: > As usual, Jim is wrong. There are deterministic systems which never > repeat. For example, there is an algorithm which will give you the > nth digit of pi. Ok. The distribution of a single digit is -not- the same as pi itself... > If I use this as my P

Re: Choate a Spammer or a Victim?

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Duncan Frissell wrote: > Has anyone noticed genuine spam wrapped in Choatian wrappers? > > Perhaps someone who's good at header analysis can comment. > > This is the header of a mailing list sales pitch I retrieved from my trash > file (where Choate and MattX go. > > I a

RE: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: > Exactly what is the Choatian definition of a PRNG which requires > it to repeat, anyway? Wrong question, the -right- questions is... What is -random-? It means unpredictable, this means unrepeatable. If it repeats then it -must- be predictable; that m

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > One can build a true random generator using a two resistors, a A resistor isn't a Boolean gate. Go back to sleep. I'm still working on your Chomsky page. I don't think you'll be happy. -- ___

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > Another nice way to get an RNG is Avalanche breakdown. I like using radiation on diodes myself. Reverse bias them and then amplify the noise. Use a Schmitt Trigger. Use one for each bit. -- __

Re: CDR: Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Alan Braggins wrote: > > > Actually you left something out, the PRNG by definition must have a > > > modulus of repetition. At some point it starts the sequence over. > > > > > As usual, Jim is wrong. There are deterministic systems which never > > repeat. For example, there

complexity theory and information warfare (was: Re: Two ideas for random number generation)

2002-04-23 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: >The modern name for this outlook is "chaos theory," but I believe >"chaos" gives almost mystical associations to something which is really >quite understandable: divergences in decimal expansions. >Discrepancies come marching in, fairl

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Riad S. Wahby
gfgs pedo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why exactly is avalanvche break down a good RNG? > Thank u. Avalanche noise is just about as good as Johnson / Johnson-Nyquist / thermal noise (all names for the same phenomenon) for collecting entropy. The spectral density is flat, but the amplitude distri

RE: Choate a Spammer or a Victim?

2002-04-23 Thread Morlock Elloi
> Pegasus. This is a crude attempt at character assassination No, this is probably a psyop from the "victim", faking a faked attack on self to promote sympathy. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and m

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Ken Brown
Tim May wrote: > Boehm's "hidden variables" model is generally discredited (some would > say "disproved"). Alternatives to the Copenhagen Interpretation, notably > EWG/"many worlds," Hartle's "consistent histories," and Cramer's > transactional model, are still not deterministic, in that the worl

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Tim May
On Monday, April 22, 2002, at 11:23 PM, Joseph Ashwood wrote: > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> If a RNG runs off Johnson noise, then the ability to predict its >> output would imply the ability to violate the second law of >> thermodynamics. If it runs off shot noise, then the ability to >> pred

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread jamesd
-- Jim Choate wrote: > > > If you can't develop a RNG in software (ie you'd be in a > > > state of sin), what makes you think you can do it using > > > -only- digital gates in hardware? You can't. James A. Donald: > > Classic Choatian physics. > > > > Of course you can. Jim Choate: > Not if

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Riad S. Wahby
"Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can build analog devices out of silicon, and get Johnson noise > from resistors or diodes. You can also build radiation detectors in > silicon, though in the absence of a supplied radiation source your > data rate will be low Another nice way to get

RE: Choate a Spammer or a Victim?

2002-04-23 Thread Trei, Peter
> Duncan Frissell[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Has anyone noticed genuine spam wrapped in Choatian wrappers? > Perhaps someone who's good at header analysis can comment. > This is the header of a mailing list sales pitch I retrieved from my trash > > file (where Choate and MattX go. > I also got

Re: Re: Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread jamesd
-- Joseph Ashwood > > > Because with a pRNG we can sometimes prove very important > > > things, while with a RNG we can prove very little (we can't > > > even prove that entropy actually exists, let alone that we > > > can collect it). James A. Donald: > > Don't be silly. Of course we kno

Re: Biometrics helping privacy: excerpt from Salon article on fo rensics

2002-04-23 Thread David Howe
Peter Trei wrote: > Encrypted files on a portable device that you keep with you would > seem to be the best of all worlds. any of the usb "mini drives" can manage that - just set them to autorun Scramdisk Traveller and mount a SD volume from the device. just don't forget to dismount it before you

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Alan Braggins
> > Actually you left something out, the PRNG by definition must have a > > modulus of repetition. At some point it starts the sequence over. > > > As usual, Jim is wrong. There are deterministic systems which never > repeat. For example, there is an algorithm which will give you the > nth digit o

Choate a Spammer or a Victim?

2002-04-23 Thread Duncan Frissell
Has anyone noticed genuine spam wrapped in Choatian wrappers? Perhaps someone who's good at header analysis can comment. This is the header of a mailing list sales pitch I retrieved from my trash file (where Choate and MattX go. I also got some porno spam. Innovation thy name is spam. DCF

RE: Biometrics helping privacy: excerpt from Salon article on fo rensics

2002-04-23 Thread Trei, Peter
> Phillip H. Zakas[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Variola quotes from an article: > > > > Occasionally a new piece of hardware comes along that initially stumps > > investigators. > > Stenhouse mentions one of the newer Thumb Drives. "There's one that > > requires a thumbprint > > onto the Thu

RE: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Trei, Peter
> Jim Choate[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: > > > The defining difference between the two is that if you know the > > algorithm and seed, the output of a PRNG can be reproduced, > > at a different time, place. or both. There are circumstances in > > wh

Dead cowboys wage peace on the Internet

2002-04-23 Thread Ken Brown
Hereinunder attached is vauely on-topic, though spins some unneccessarily self-important new jargon. They don't quite seem to get that TCPIP is fundamentally P2P from the bits up. I like the phrase "disruptive compliance". The Net has a passive-aggressive personality? Ken > Waging peace on the

NYT random login generator

2002-04-23 Thread Eugen Leitl
when cpunx/cpunx is not enough: http://www.majcher.com/nytview.html

Re: Re: Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Joseph Ashwood > > Because with a pRNG we can sometimes prove very important > > things, while with a RNG we can prove very little (we can't even > > prove that entropy actually exists, let alone that we can > > collect it). > > Don't be sil

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -- > On 22 Apr 2002 at 17:38, Jim Choate wrote: > > If you can't develop a RNG in software (ie you'd be in a state > > of sin), what makes you think you can do it using -only- digital > > gates in hardware? You can't. > > Classic Choatian physi

Re: Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread jamesd
-- James A. Donald: > > Why would one want to implement a PRNG in silicon, when one > > can easily implement a real RNG in silicon? Joseph Ashwood > Because with a pRNG we can sometimes prove very important > things, while with a RNG we can prove very little (we can't even > prove that ent

P2P gets noticed ...

2002-04-23 Thread An Metet
... and morpheus gets cached (from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) When you setup some of these peer-to-peer sharing clients (like Morpheus) you can limit what IP's can share with you. I've set one up and excluded everyone except our class C. In theroy, that should let my local users download from the s

Re: Two ideas for random number generation

2002-04-23 Thread jamesd
-- On 22 Apr 2002 at 17:38, Jim Choate wrote: > If you can't develop a RNG in software (ie you'd be in a state > of sin), what makes you think you can do it using -only- digital > gates in hardware? You can't. Classic Choatian physics. Of course you can. --digsig James A. Donal