Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 08:42 AM, Ed Norton wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention this here, and wonder if it's being reported out there West of the Hudson... Apparently, a large traffic-stopping protest here in NYC was performed using a method I hadn't heard of before. Basically, the

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-03-30 Thread Bill Stewart
At 06:09 PM 03/29/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Check out http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48331-2003Mar29.html If all the Iraqi farmers/civilians have half this guy's stash... It's probably safer to invade Iraq than, say, Switzerland, because the Iraqi government probably

iraqi gun ownership (was Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-03-30 Thread jet
At 0:55 -0800 2003/03/30, Bill Stewart wrote: At 06:09 PM 03/29/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Check out http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48331-2003Mar29.html If all the Iraqi farmers/civilians have half this guy's stash... It's probably safer to invade Iraq than, say,

State Super-DMCA Too True (fwd)

2003-03-30 Thread J.A. Terranson
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 15:53:32 -0500 From: William Allen Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: State Super-DMCA Too True Declan McCullagh sent out an email 7:56 am EST this morning, referencing his full report at:

Re: S-Tools Stego makes an appearance in Law and Order-SVU

2003-03-30 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Mentions of anonymous remailers are now almost commonplace. Looks like stego is catching up. Implications for attempted bans on these tools, or enhanced sentencing, are left to your imagination. Steganalysis is going to be a big thing. Possible countermeasure is embedding a steganographed

Sunday Times article on civilian murder?

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On indymedia, this quote: The british journalist Mark Franchetti (Sunday Times) reports today, that after killing 12 Iraqi civilians, among them a 5 year old girl, on a bridge at Nasirija, a US corporal, active in that killing told him that Iraqi people are a disease and we are the chemotherapy.

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Bill Stewart
At 03:28 PM 03/30/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: According to indymedia, those SF protests last week seemed to be pretty effectively shutting down the financial district even without lockdowns, thru sheer force of numbers. Not surprising - traffic there only marginally works anyway, and if

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-03-30 Thread Steve Furlong
On Sunday 30 March 2003 11:37, Tyler Durden wrote: Hey, as for Sharpton, I'll quote my brother: I'm gonna vote for Sharpton just to piss YOU off! I know someone who voted for Sharpton a few years ago (Governor? Senator? One of his no-chance campaigns.) because he figured he'd be the only one

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-03-30 Thread Bill Stewart
At 01:15 PM 03/30/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: IIRC, the protestants aren't Irish, they are Brits, the remainder of the brit occupying forces. The Irish were essentially slaves of the brits for centuries. You don't remember correctly. Most of the Protestants in Ulster were moved there in

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:14:56AM -0800, Tim May wrote: On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 09:35 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:01:56AM -0800, Tim May wrote: Those who handcuff themselves to gates, to trees, inside PVC pipes, whatever ...should simply be left that

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 01:34:38PM -0500, stuart wrote: On Sunday, March 30, 2003, Harmon Seaver came up with this... HS Too bad the Romans didn't finish the job of feeding that lot to the lions HS a couple of milleniums ago. Encouraging the imperial persecution of a religious minority?

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-03-30 Thread Greg Newby
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 12:40:45PM -0600, Neil Johnson wrote: I heard this quote from a Marine today on NPR talking about the sucide bombing earlier and how they are now dealing with IRAQI citizens. We've been told to be professional and polite, but prepared to kill anyone we meet. Ha!

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Steve Furlong
On Sunday 30 March 2003 15:13, Tyler Durden wrote: Uh...I don't think Tim May gets the picture here. Think a few dozen PVC-groups consisting of 100 or more each, lying in the middle of, say, 5th avenue, or at the mouth of the midtown tunnel. Oh, and say it happens at 8:00AM on a Weekday.

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-03-30 Thread stuart
On Sunday, March 30, 2003, Harmon Seaver came up with this... HS Too bad the Romans didn't finish the job of feeding that lot to the lions HS a couple of milleniums ago. Encouraging the imperial persecution of a religious minority? -- stuart We wave the flag of freedom as we conquer and

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-03-30 Thread stuart
On Saturday, March 29, 2003, Harmon Seaver came up with this... HSYeah, too bad they don't feel the same way about Ireland. The HS Irish have been trying to kick the Brits out for what, 400 years? HS At least. Apparently you know nothing of the history of Britain and Ireland. The story of

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 01:25 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:14:56AM -0800, Tim May wrote: On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 09:35 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:01:56AM -0800, Tim May wrote: Those who handcuff themselves to gates, to trees, inside

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 09:35 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:01:56AM -0800, Tim May wrote: Those who handcuff themselves to gates, to trees, inside PVC pipes, whatever ...should simply be left that way. Their screams for water, for release, and then eventually

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-03-30 Thread stuart
On Sunday, March 30, 2003, Harmon Seaver came up with this... HS On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 01:34:38PM -0500, stuart wrote: Encouraging the imperial persecution of a religious minority? HSWell, it looks at this point that it would have been a reasonable trade-off, HS given the millions who

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:35 AM 03/30/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:01:56AM -0800, Tim May wrote: On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 08:42 AM, Ed Norton wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention this here, and wonder if it's being reported out there West of the Hudson... It's been done here in

Re: State Super-DMCA Too True

2003-03-30 Thread J.A. Terranson
[Sent to you alone as I am unable to post to the list] On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Leo Bicknell wrote: I find this argument interesting, because a lot of people seem to share your feeling that the ISP can, in the terms of service, allow or disallow specific uses. Please note that in the absence

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:01:56AM -0800, Tim May wrote: On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 08:42 AM, Ed Norton wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention this here, and wonder if it's being reported out there West of the Hudson... Apparently, a large traffic-stopping protest here in NYC was

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 01:25:47PM -0500, stuart wrote: On Saturday, March 29, 2003, Harmon Seaver came up with this... HSYeah, too bad they don't feel the same way about Ireland. The HS Irish have been trying to kick the Brits out for what, 400 years? HS At least. Apparently you know

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-03-30 Thread Neil Johnson
I heard this quote from a Marine today on NPR talking about the sucide bombing earlier and how they are now dealing with IRAQI citizens. We've been told to be professional and polite, but prepared to kill anyone we meet. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 02:09:11PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: At 01:15 PM 03/30/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: IIRC, the protestants aren't Irish, they are Brits, the remainder of the brit occupying forces. The Irish were essentially slaves of the brits for centuries. You don't

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-03-30 Thread Tom Veil
Steve Furlong wrote on March 28, 2003 at 17:56:41 -0500: On Friday 28 March 2003 00:10, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Sometimes when you're in government you have to do things for the people whether they like it or not. That's what governing is all about, said Senate Majority Leader

Re: S-Tools Stego makes an appearance in Law and Order-SVU

2003-03-30 Thread Tyler Durden
Gotta give this thought a great big ditto. I've believed for a long time now that the real reason the fedz have tried to scare the public from using heavy crypto is for precisely this reason...a lot can be determined merely by the presence and form of crypto used. I am in fact starting to

PVC Tubes and NYC Demonstrators

2003-03-30 Thread Tyler Durden
I haven't seen anyone mention this here, and wonder if it's being reported out there West of the Hudson... Apparently, a large traffic-stopping protest here in NYC was performed using a method I hadn't heard of before. Basically, the demonstrators handcuffed themselves together, but inside

Closer Together Than Average Primes Discovered

2003-03-30 Thread Eric Cordian
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/5483833.htm And in amazing math discovery news... - ... Dan Goldston, a math professor at SJSU, has solved an important problem in number theory relating to prime numbers. ... Mathematicians described the advance -- announced at a

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-03-30 Thread Tyler Durden
Hey, as for Sharpton, I'll quote my brother: I'm gonna vote for Sharpton just to piss YOU off! -TD From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Veil) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Quote of the Day Date: 30 Mar 2003 16:14:14 - Steve Furlong wrote on March 28, 2003 at 17:56:41 -0500: On Friday 28

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 03:13:42PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Uh...I don't think Tim May gets the picture here. Think a few dozen PVC-groups consisting of 100 or more each, lying in the middle of, say, 5th avenue, or at the mouth of the midtown tunnel. Oh, and say it happens at 8:00AM on a

Re: Skeletons at the gates

2003-03-30 Thread Tyler Durden
Uh...I don't think Tim May gets the picture here. Think a few dozen PVC-groups consisting of 100 or more each, lying in the middle of, say, 5th avenue, or at the mouth of the midtown tunnel. Oh, and say it happens at 8:00AM on a Weekday. The result is a significant impact on the local economy

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-03-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 12:22:41AM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 04:36:08PM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote: Are there specific facts on that Web page that you believe to be in error? Did you read the hilarious description of FCF and EFF? I assume not, if you had to