Re: Deutsch Jackboots

2003-02-24 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 11:20  AM, Greg Newby wrote:

You neglected the possibility that he's from the dreaded
Other Side.  Better call T.I.P.S. :-)
But seriously, he could just be a mercenary: ex-soldier,
ex-fed, whatever.  There's no reason why the bank couldn't
hire their own plain clothes guards.  If he had weapons
that non-soldiers can't get licenses for, I'd be more suspicious.
  -- Greg
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:01:39PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:


Perhaps one of you crazies can shed some light on this.

While grabbing some lunch I passed by the Deutch Bank tower further 
down on
Wall Street. Standing in front is what is clearly no standard $6/hour
security gaurd, though he has no uniform. The guy's wearing jackboots
Jackboots are almost certainly _not_ what he was wearing. Presumably 
TD saw what are sometimes called jump boots or combat boots.

jackboota heavy military boot made of glossy black leather 
extending above the knee and worn especially during the 17th and 18th 
centuries; a laceless military boot reaching to the calf

http://www.apparelsearch.com/glossary_j.htm


 and a
jumpsuit, and I can tell from his build he's some kind of soldier. 
(He's
also armed, but the guns are not visible.)

What's the deal here? It seems odd that the guy has no obvious 
uniform to
make us all feel better (he'd certainly save us in the event of 
another
terrorist attack), and scare away the numberless raghead terrorists. 
Is he
there to make the Deutsch Bank execs feel better?

Also, what's the deal with him not having any ID or anything? Does a 
US
soldier have to be marked?

(As for him being a soldier, take it from me I can tell this guy aint 
a
standard rentacop.)
Maybe not a standard rentacop, but TD is sorely mistaken if he thinks 
uniforms and ID badges need to be worn by various sorts of persons. For 
reasons too numerous to get into here.

Most likely, private security employed by the bank. As for the more 
buff appearance than the usual retired doughnut eaters employed in the 
past, these are the times we live in. Where once such a paramilitary 
appearance would frighten the sheeple, now they are apparently 
reassured.

--Tim May, Corralitos, California
Quote of the Month: It is said that there are no atheists in foxholes; 
perhaps there are no true libertarians in times of terrorist attacks. 
--Cathy Young, Reason Magazine, both enemies of liberty.



Re: Deutsch Jackboots

2003-02-24 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 04:27  PM, Steve Furlong wrote:

On Monday 24 February 2003 14:20, Greg Newby wrote:

If he had weapons
that non-soldiers can't get licenses for, I'd be more suspicious.
Weapons that non-soldiers can't get licenses for includes pepper 
spray
in NYC.

And the notion that a guard having a weapon a non-soldier can't get a 
license for is flawed.

Even in the most statist hotbeds of weapon control, in places like NYC 
and Washington, security guards can usually be issued a gun upon 
completion of a short training class (consisting of cartoons showing 
how guns are aimed...only a slight exaggeration).

There is no weapon a security guard might have which would make me 
think he's non-civilian, except maybe for a Stinger. Even MP-5s are 
readily licensed to some security guards. At nuke plants, for example. 
And, no, they are NOT military. (Maybe former military, but not 
current, except in Protection of the Reich Alerts.)

--Tim May
How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things 
have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night 
to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? 
--Alexander Solzhenitzyn, Gulag Archipelago



Re: Deutsch Jackboots

2003-02-24 Thread Tyler Durden
Steve Furlong wrote..

Weapons that non-soldiers can't get licenses for includes pepper spray in 
NYC.

And nunchucks. I remember back in Washington Heights where I grew up, kids 
were knocking themselves out imitating Bruce Lee with home-made 'chucks 
(they'd cut a broom handle into sections and then attach them with the door 
chain). So the city outlawed 'em. (A couple of years later our dojo fell out 
of favor with the then chief-of-police, so one of the brothers was actually 
prosecuted for nunchuck posession!)

-TD

Interesting, by 6:00PM when I was going home I happened to notice 2 such 
soldiers. Was there a terrorist threat against Deutsch Bank, or just a 
meeting of the BOD?







From: Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Deutsch Jackboots
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:27:51 -0500
On Monday 24 February 2003 14:20, Greg Newby wrote:

 If he had weapons
 that non-soldiers can't get licenses for, I'd be more suspicious.
Weapons that non-soldiers can't get licenses for includes pepper spray
in NYC.
--
Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere   Have GNU, Will Travel
Guns will get you through times of no duct tape better than duct tape
will get you through times of no guns. -- Ron Kuby


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Deutsch Jackboots

2003-02-24 Thread Tyler Durden
Perhaps one of you crazies can shed some light on this.

While grabbing some lunch I passed by the Deutch Bank tower further down on 
Wall Street. Standing in front is what is clearly no standard $6/hour 
security gaurd, though he has no uniform. The guy's wearing jackboots and a 
jumpsuit, and I can tell from his build he's some kind of soldier. (He's 
also armed, but the guns are not visible.)

What's the deal here? It seems odd that the guy has no obvious uniform to 
make us all feel better (he'd certainly save us in the event of another 
terrorist attack), and scare away the numberless raghead terrorists. Is he 
there to make the Deutsch Bank execs feel better?

Also, what's the deal with him not having any ID or anything? Does a US 
soldier have to be marked?

(As for him being a soldier, take it from me I can tell this guy aint a 
standard rentacop.)

I'd take a photo but I have the distinct impression he'd try to nix it. 
(Also, I'm not too into attracting such attention around here.)

-TD



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Re: Deutsch Jackboots

2003-02-24 Thread Steve Furlong
On Monday 24 February 2003 14:20, Greg Newby wrote:

 If he had weapons
 that non-soldiers can't get licenses for, I'd be more suspicious.

Weapons that non-soldiers can't get licenses for includes pepper spray 
in NYC.

-- 
Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere   Have GNU, Will Travel

Guns will get you through times of no duct tape better than duct tape
will get you through times of no guns. -- Ron Kuby