Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-11-01 Thread James A. Donald
James A. Donald writes: > > Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably > > Symbian. Chris Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this > determined and achieved? There is no official definition of "genuinely secure", an

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-11-01 Thread Peter Gutmann
Chris Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >James A. Donald writes: > >> Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably >> Symbian. > >What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this determined >and achieved? By executive fiat. Peter.

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-11-01 Thread Chris Palmer
James A. Donald writes: > Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably > Symbian. What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this determined and achieved? -- http://www.eff.org/about/staff/#chris_palmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-31 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:22 AM -0500 10/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >and doesn't history show that big corporations are only interested in >revenue One should hope so. ;-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street,

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-31 Thread johns
hi ( 05.10.26 09:17 -0700 ) James A. Donald: > While many people are rightly concerned that DRM will > ultimately mean that the big corporation, and thus the > state, has root access to their computers and the owner > does not, it also means that trojans, viruses, and > malware does not. do you r

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-26 Thread James A. Donald
-- John Kelsey > What's with the heat-death nonsense? Physical bearer > instruments imply stout locks and vaults and alarm > systems and armed guards and all the rest, all the way > down to infrastructure like police forces and armies > (private or public) to avoid having the biggest gang > en

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-26 Thread John Kelsey
>From: "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Oct 25, 2005 8:34 AM >To: cryptography@metzdowd.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand .. >That is to say, your analysis conflicts with the whole trend towards &g

On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 3:57 PM -0400 10/24/05, John Kelsey wrote: >More to the point, an irreversible payment system raises big practical >problems in a world full of very hard-to-secure PCs running the >relevant software. One exploitable software bug, properly used, can >steal an