Re: [WAR] [HISTORY] Afganistan, Russia, USSR, Lybia, WW2, pre-WW2 - "Why do they hate us so?"

[xorcist]

> It is funny, in a sad way, to see a nominally "anarchist oriented"
> forum dominated by people bickering over the relative virtues of their
> preferred nationalist heroes, a.k.a. mass murderers and their excuses
> for same.  Funny, but inevitable.

Yup. A large percentage of people fall for some type of
cult-of-personality. And those movements or ideologies that don't start
with explicit leaders, end up electing certain figures by consensus
opinion, and then quoting them as authorities, and using their words to
justify one's own opinions or beliefs. The amount of 'atheists' that
piously quote Dawkins, for instance, is always amusing to me.

>
> The problem of controlled mass delusion has been recognized as a
> problem for at least a couple of thousand years - see the early
> Gnostic literature, modern Sufi praxis, and everything in between.

Excellent point. At bottom, truly anti-Orthodox opinions in general stay
strictly the domain of a small percent of truly free thinkers.

> There has been no significant progress beyond that already
> accomplished in ancient times.

Mm. Talk less. Meditate more.

> Factual information and practical
> object lessons have no impact, unless the percipient already has a
> strong predisposition for self observation and meta-thinking, which
> apparently requires some unusual combination of genetics and early
> environmental drivers.

What we need then is a conspiracy of well-placed scientists and doctors to
isolate those genetic markers, keep the work secret, and to create a
retrovirus that can unleashed to cause the required DNA rewrite. That
technology could be close, as well.

>
> "Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It wastes your time and annoys the
> pig." - W.C. Fields

Genetically cross the pig and a songbird.

Re: [WAR] [HISTORY] Afganistan, Russia, USSR, Lybia, WW2, pre-WW2 - "Why do they hate us so?"

[Steve Kinney]

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On 10/16/2016 09:24 AM, John Young wrote:
> This is what every military-dominated nation proclaims to bleed
> its terrified and tortured citizens and fatten its vampire arms
> producers -- and propagandists trolling the full spectrum of
> discourse. WWW invented and promoted for marketing of "electronic
> freedom" to plant trojans inside. Privacy protected by porous
> policies and dull swords of crypto, believe it.
> 
> Alternatively, eviscerate and burn the scientists inventing the
> killing swords and faulty protections to halt spread of we-are-gods
> PR germs.

It is funny, in a sad way, to see a nominally "anarchist oriented"
forum dominated by people bickering over the relative virtues of their
preferred nationalist heroes, a.k.a. mass murderers and their excuses
for same.  Funny, but inevitable.

The problem of controlled mass delusion has been recognized as a
problem for at least a couple of thousand years - see the early
Gnostic literature, modern Sufi praxis, and everything in between.
There has been no significant progress beyond that already
accomplished in ancient times.  Factual information and practical
object lessons have no impact, unless the percipient already has a
strong predisposition for self observation and meta-thinking, which
apparently requires some unusual combination of genetics and early
environmental drivers.

"Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It wastes your time and annoys the
pig." - W.C. Fields

:o/






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Re: [WAR] [HISTORY] Afganistan, Russia, USSR, Lybia, WW2, pre-WW2 - "Why do they hate us so?"

[John Young]

This is what every military-dominated nation proclaims to bleed its terrified
and tortured citizens and fatten its vampire arms 
producers -- and propagandists
trolling the full spectrum of discourse. WWW 
invented and promoted for marketing
of "electronic freedom" to plant trojans inside. 
Privacy protected by porous policies

and dull swords of crypto, believe it.

Alternatively, eviscerate and burn the scientists 
inventing the killing swords and

faulty protections to halt spread of we-are-gods PR germs.

At 08:55 AM 10/16/2016, you wrote:

2016-10-16 13:23 GMT+03:00 Zenaan Harkness 
<z...@freedbms.net>:

Those who come to us in peace will be welcome as a guest.
  But those who come to us sword in hand will die by the sword!
  On that Russia stands and forever will we stand!


Amen.

Re: [WAR] [HISTORY] Afganistan, Russia, USSR, Lybia, WW2, pre-WW2 - "Why do they hate us so?"

[Александр]

2016-10-16 13:23 GMT+03:00 Zenaan Harkness :

> Those who come to us in peace will be welcome as a guest.
>   But those who come to us sword in hand will die by the sword!
>   On that Russia stands and forever will we stand!
>

Amen.

[WAR] [HISTORY] Afganistan, Russia, USSR, Lybia, WW2, pre-WW2 - "Why do they hate us so?"

[Zenaan Harkness]

   Subject: Afganistan, Russia, USSR, Lybia, WW2, pre-WW2 :)

A very nice pracie.

Further to the question from today :)

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/10/09/why-do-they-hate-us-so-western-scholar-reply-russian-student.html
(Alt:
 
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/why-do-they-hate-us-so-one-western-scholars-reply-russian-student/ri16915
)
"
Prince Aleksandr Nevskii declared in the 13th century:
« Those who come to us in peace will be welcome as a guest.
  But those who come to us sword in hand will die by the sword!
  On that Russia stands and forever will we stand!
»
"