Authoritarian Pandemic of Tyranny Spreading Faster Than Corona

2021-09-07 Thread grarpamp
Ron Paul Warns Pandemic Of Authoritarianism Is The Real Threat

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2021/september/06/authoritarianism-pandemic-is-the-real-threat/

Cook County, Illinois, Judge James Shapiro reached a new low in covid
tyranny by forbidding Rebecca Firlit from seeing her 11-year-old son
until she receives a covid vaccine.

Judge Shapiro is not alone in abusing judicial power to force
individuals to get vaccinated. Judges across the country have ordered
defendants to get covid vaccines, sometimes as a condition of avoiding
prison.

This outbreak of judicial tyranny is a symptom of the authoritarianism
pandemic that is the real threat to America.

Corporations are imposing requirements, including that employees show
proof of vaccination, pay more for health insurance if they have not
had a covid vaccine, and undergo regular (in some cases weekly) covid
tests. An increasing number of state and local governments are
requiring their employees and even people working in some private jobs
to take covid vaccines, as well as imposing vaccine passport
requirements on people generally.

President Biden has urged employers to implement vaccine mandates, and
government is working with its big tech allies to develop “model”
vaccine passports.

Government approved model vaccine requirements combined with
government officials encouraging their adoption send the message to
businesses that imposing vaccine requirements on their employees, and
maybe their customers as well, is a good way to stay in the
politicians and bureaucrats' good graces.

An effective way for the US government to “encourage” adoption of
vaccine mandates and vaccine passports is denying federal funds to
businesses, states, local governments, and other institutions that
refuse to require employees, customers, or other people to prove they
are vaccinated. This will result in vaccine requirements while
enabling government to claim it is not forcing vaccines on anyone.

President Biden is already planning for the US government denying
Medicare and Medicaid funding to nursing homes that do not require
their employees to prove they are vaccinated. This could result in
staff shortages at nursing homes. A short-staffed nursing home poses a
much greater risk to residents than a nursing home with a staff
comprised of healthy, unvaccinated individuals. Texas is experiencing
a nursing shortage thanks in part to hospitals firing unvaccinated
nurses.

Health care workers have good reason to resist vaccine mandates. Many
individuals have died or suffered other adverse effects — including
miscarriages — after receiving a vaccine.

Some people try to justify vaccine mandates and vaccine passports by
saying that, by risking infecting others, unvaccinated individuals
endanger other people. However, the federal Centers for Disease
Control recently admitted that covid vaccines do not prevent the
spread of infections. In addition, the claim that we are having a
“pandemic of the unvaccinated” relies on data collected from early in
the year — before many Americans had taken covid vaccines.

An important objection is that, if government can force people to take
a potentially dangerous vaccine to protect against a hypothetical harm
to others, the same reasoning would support the imposing of many
additional liberty violations. These could include, for example, “red
flag” laws and other forms of gun control, restrictions on access to
“extremist” ideas, or a system of mass surveillance to prevent
possible future acts of violence. The argument that government can use
force to prevent hypothetical harms renders restraint on government
power meaningless.

It is imperative that we support the growing resistance to vaccine
mandates and vaccine passports. We must also expand the resistance to
covid authoritarianism to resistance to all forms of government
infringements on liberty.


Cryptocurrency: Corona Passports - Trojan Horse for WarOnCash CBDC's Cashless Society

2021-08-11 Thread grarpamp
https://leohohmann.com/2021/08/04/digital-health-passports-the-snare-that-will-lure-many-into-the-one-world-cashless-system/

Digital Health Passports Are Trojan Horse For Cashless Society

Several new technologies that appear separate and unrelated will soon
converge, creating a giant digital trap that will easily entice the
uninformed masses.

The digital trap has already been set and globalist elites are using
COVID to speed up the process of convergence. Most people will
sleep-walk right into the trap, which will ultimately reduce them to a
human QR code – trackable, traceable, and 100 percent dependent on Big
Tech and big government for their existence.

I’m going to unpack each of these seemingly separate threads that will
be gradually merged into a single overarching socio-financial control
grid.

The most imminent agenda item needed to jumpstart this system is a
successful launch of digital health passports.

France, Italy, Ireland, Germany, Greece and many other nations have
started mandating these passports on their citizens, many of whom are
flooding into the streets to protest.

Citizens protest health passports in more than 150 cities throughout France.

The movement toward digital health passports in the U.S. is happening
more gradually but it’s picking up steam.

In a briefing Monday, Aug. 2, Biden’s Coronavirus Response Coordinator
Jeffrey Zients announced “it’s time to impose some requirements” where
COVID vaccines are concerned.

When asked for clarification on exactly what COVID rules might be
implemented, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said nothing is off
the table.

Remember that phrase: Nothing is off the table.

This could involve rounding up the unvaccinated and placing them in
isolation and quarantine camps.

An academic consortium consisting of six universities already has a
contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to provide
training for government, law enforcement, healthcare and
private-sector stakeholders on how to quarantine “large portions” of
rural communities.

But the drive to digitize the lives of Americans will start in the
cities and move outward.

New York Mayor Bill de Blasio became the first politician to jump at
the opportunity to demand vaccine passports.

Despite what anyone tries to tell you, separating Americans by vaccine
status is a historic first. It has never before been tried, not
through the polio or smallpox outbreaks of the 1920s, 30s and 40s, not
during the Spanish Flu. Not ever.

De Blasio ordered businesses to deny service to the unvaccinated,
which accounts for 30 percent of the city’s population. It remains to
be seen how de Blasio will enforce this edict. Will he call out the
police to shut down businesses not demanding a show of papers from
their customers?

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is also shooting for vaccine passport
mandates statewide but knows he has to be a little more diplomatic in
his approach.

“Private businesses, I am asking them and suggesting to them, go
to vaccine-only admission. Go to vaccine-only admission,” Cuomo said
in an Aug. 2 press conference.

“I believe it’s in your own business interest,” he said, “to run a
vaccine-only establishment…. We have apps, just say, ‘you have to show
that you were vaccinated when you walk in the door.'”

In other words, “Show your papers.”

Think about what Cuomo is saying here.

He is very forcefully “asking” business owners to eliminate 30 percent
the state’s population from their field of potential customers and
treat them as non-persons.

This is pure fascism and reminds one of the Nazi propaganda that
coerced Germans to refuse to do business with Jews.

If New York’s business owners listened to Cuomo, they would make it
impossible for non-vaxxed people to feed their children.

Learn your medical rights as an employee, student, etc., and how to
‘say no to the needle’ at Peggy Hall’s HealthyAmerican.org

The digital passports require people to download a scannable QR code
on their cellphone that will allow businesses to know they’ve been
vaxxed before they are allowed to enter and receive service [buy or
sell].

That leads us to the second leg of the digital trap that is baking in
the technological oven – a new global digital ID system that is
capable of working in conjunction with the digital health passports
and the new medical-vaccination complex.

The leader in this stream of tech is the ID2020 Alliance, a
collaborative of more than 35 members including Accenture, Microsoft,
the Rockefeller Foundation, MasterCard, IBM, the International Chamber
of Commerce, MIT SafePaths and Bill Gates’ GAVI Global Vaccines
Alliance.

In February 2021, ID2020 launched the Good Health Pass Collaborative
to encourage a seamless convergence of all the COVID-19 vaccine
credentialing apps being developed by many different organizations.

“Paper vaccine certificates can be easily forged,” the ID2020 Alliance
warns in a press release. “The purpose of health credentials is to

Re: Corona: US Pres Biden Mandates Forced Vax, Employment Firings, Vax Passports, Masking, Testing

2021-08-03 Thread grarpamp
This is your future if you don't fight back...
You, your family and friends, *will* comply with
*every* wish of the regime or you *will* be
arrested, smashed, or killed...


UN Special Rapporteur On Torture Requests Info On German Police
Brutalizing Anti-Lockdown Protesters

https://summit.news/2021/08/02/un-special-rapporteur-on-torture-requests-info-on-german-police-brutalizing-anti-lockdown-protesters/
https://summit.news/2021/08/02/videos-chaos-erupts-on-the-streets-of-berlin-as-police-attack-anti-lockdown-protesters/
https://twitter.com/StanM3/status/1421905660686573577
https://twitter.com/NilsMelzer/status/1421935666963914754
https://twitter.com/Willow__Bella/status/1421878398503247876
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1421885043706793986
https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/01/berlin-police-harassed-and-attacked-by-demonstrators-in-anti-covid-19-measures-protests

The UN’s Special Rapporteur on Torture Nils Melzer has requested more
information on an incident in which a female anti-lockdown protester
in Berlin was grabbed by the throat and brutally thrown to the ground
by riot police.

As we highlighted earlier, the demonstrations ended up with a whopping
600 people being arrested amidst innumerable brazen examples of police
brutality, including against children, that were caught on camera.

Germans were protesting against plans to ban unvaccinated people from
a plethora of different venues, including restaurants, cinemas and
stadiums.

One video clip shows an elderly protester merely attempting to walk
past a police officer dressed in riot gear before he grabs her neck
with both hands and throws her to the floor.

The EU would be condemning this as regime brutality if it was
Russia but since it's Germany they will support it
instead.pic.twitter.com/3aXM4QFRif
— Stan (@StanM3) August 1, 2021

Cops were obviously given orders to enforce a draconian crackdown on
the protesters given their behavior throughout the day, which looked
like something out of the 1930’s.

The clip caught the attention of Nils Melzer, a professor of
international law, whose official title is United Nations Special
Rapporteur on Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment
or Punishment.

“This has just been brought to my attention,” tweeted Melzer.

“Can anyone provide my office with the specifics / witness
statements of this incident and whether an official investigation has
been launched?” he asked.

This has just been brought to my attention.

Can anyone provide my office with the specifics / witness
statements of this incident and whether an official investigation has
been launched?

Send to: sr-tort...@ohchr.org
(please not via Twitter-reply/DM)

Thank you! https://t.co/ly00UlPDMw
— Nils Melzer (@NilsMelzer) August 1, 2021

It’s highly unlikely that any investigation will take place given that
riot police were clearly ordered to conduct themselves with wanton
disregard for basic dignity and human rights.

Another video clip showed a police officer reacting to a young boy’s
concern over the treatment of his mother by forcefully pushing him to
the floor by his head.

Berlin, this cop is hitting a little boy in the head for worrying
about his mom. 郎勞 pic.twitter.com/3RQNKwzzbu
— Willow (@Willow__Bella) August 1, 2021

Another clip shows two old women also being pushed to the floor by police.

Police shove elderly people to your ground to protect their
health. Welcome to Berlin. pic.twitter.com/Jlvj3DBIF7
— Ian Miles Cheong @ stillgray.substack.com (@stillgray) August 1, 2021

Another protester also collapsed and died while being harassed by
police to show his ID.

Anti-lockdown protesters have been vilified and dehumanized by the
media and by vaccine cultists who lobby for them to be treated like
lepers.

That’s why such scenes, which would cause outrage if they occurred at
a Black Lives Matter or LGBT march, are either totally ignored or
callously celebrated.


Corona: US Pres Biden Mandates Forced Vax, Employment Firings, Vax Passports, Masking, Testing

2021-08-03 Thread grarpamp
You did not fight censorship, thus you got censored and fucked.

Now you must fight the installation of this new major regime
of force. It's not about science/medicine, that's your choice
to use it or not. It's not about people dying, else politicians
wouldn't start wars and starve people to death in the freezing
cold. It's about a massive new launch of the false idea that
global regimes somehow have total authority over your person
and can force you to do their bidding.

Go watch the global protest videos.
Wake the fuck up.
Join them.
Fight back.

The weasel words below are crystal clear as to what's next,
and such regimes of force have never and will never contain
themselves to just one thing, they will expand well past Corona
into all areas of life... and you will not like it at all.

Stop the force, before you lose the chance forever.



White House COVID Response Coordinator Says It's "Time To Impose
Vaccine Requirements"

https://summit.news/2021/08/03/15836/  Biden: Time To Impose Vaccine
Requirements
https://summit.news/2021/07/30/video-biden-admits-to-wanting-nationwide-vaccine-mandates/
https://summit.news/2021/07/29/google-and-facebook-announce-mandatory-vaccines-for-employees/
https://summit.news/2021/08/02/video-wh-deputy-press-secretary-says-americans-must-follow-cdc-orders-because-the-experts-say-so/
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1420852671502815233
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-science-truth-political

In addition to Biden having already started to force
the entire US Federal Military and Civilian workforce...

White House COVID Response Coordinator Says It's "Time To Impose
Vaccine Requirements"

In a briefing Monday, the Biden Coronavirus Response Coordinator
Jeffrey Zients announced that “it’s time to impose some requirements”
where COVID vaccines are concerned.

Zients referenced Biden’s comments from last week where the latter
talked about giving people cash in exchange for being vaccinated, but
added that this doesn’t go far enough.

“Last week the president called on states and local governments to use
funding they have received, including from the American Rescue Plan,
to give $100 to anyone who gets fully vaccinated,” Zientz said, adding
“If financial incentives like these help us get more shots in arms, we
should use them.”

“But in addition to incentives, it’s time to impose some requirements
based on the realities of different risks unvaccinated individuals
pose versus those who have been vaccinated,” Zients proclaimed.

He then went on to confirm that any federal worker or contractor who
remains unvaccinated will be forced to wear a mask and get COVID tests
twice a week.

“It’s simple, if you want to work with the federal government, get
your workers vaccinated,” Zients decreed.

Watch:

As we reported last week, Biden himself indicated that he is seeking
confirmation on whether the entire country can be mandated to get the
vaccines.

While talking about the likes of Google and Facebook announcing
vaccine mandates for their employees, Biden said “I would like to see
them continue to move in that direction,” and added that “it’s still a
question whether the Federal government can mandate the whole
country.”

“I don’t know that yet,” Biden added, indicating it is something he is
actively seeking to clarify.

Watch:

Biden on states, private companies, and schools mandating COVID-19 vaccines:

"I would like to see them continue to move in that direction...
it's still a question whether the Federal government can mandate the
whole country." pic.twitter.com/ZSFd1JCB6s
— Benny (@bennyjohnson) July 29, 2021

When asked for clarification on exactly what COVID rules could be
implemented going forward, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said
Monday that nothing is off the table.

While suggesting that total lockdown will not be brought back, Psaki
responded that Biden “has said from the beginning that we are going to
be guided by the science, guided by our public health experts, and
we’re not going to take options off the table of what they may
recommend.”

Psaki: “We’ve been clear we’re not going back to the shutdowns of
March of 2020 ... but again, [Biden] has said from the beginning that
we are going to be guided by the science.” pic.twitter.com/4TEkTmOlv7
— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) August 2, 2021

Again, basically Americans will be ordered to do whatever the “experts” say.









Tucker Carlson: Science is a seeking of the truth, not a political directive
'The Anglosphere committing suicide collectively'
By Tucker Carlson | Fox News
Tucker: The mainstream media's job is to defend the ruling class

'Tucker Carlson Tonight' host asks what do civil rights mean when
they're not enforced across the board?

We’re continuing to try to follow the bizarre and fast-changing
guidance on COVID from the White House. Remember when they told you
the last administration was incompetent? We’ve never

WEF Cyber Polygon: Corporate Game Sim, Prelude re Corona Event 201, CBDC WarOnCash Cryptocurrency

2021-04-11 Thread grarpamp
"It’s interesting how simulations, trial runs, and mock attacks often
seem to precede actual events."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb66PZ5EgY  Corbett: Catherine Fitts
- You will be cancelled

https://www.theorganicprepper.com/cyberattack-simulation/

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/02/investigative-reports/from-event-201-to-cyber-polygon-the-wefs-simulation-of-a-coming-cyber-pandemic/
https://2020.cyberpolygon.com/results-2020/
https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/10/live-simulation-exercise-to-prepare-public-and-private-leaders-for-pandemic-response/
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/clade-x-virus-kill-900-million-people/
https://www.businessinsider.com/pandemic-virus-simulation-johns-hopkins-shows-vulnerability-2018-7
https://www.weforum.org/projects/cyber-polygon
https://www.sberbank.ru/en/individualclients
https://bi.zone/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income

Is 2021's Fictional Cyberattack Simulation Prepping Us For A Cyber Pandemic?

Authored by Robert Wheeler via The Organic Prepper blog,

Many readers are aware of a simulation conducted by the World Economic
Forum called Event 201 that preceded the COVID pandemic. Event 201
eerily described and seemed to predict the pandemic. (There was also a
pandemic simulation called Clade X that preceded Covid.)

What some readers may not know, however, is that the World Economic
Forum conducted a similar simulation, Cyber Polygon 2020. This 2020
event also predicted a global catastrophe.
A new cyberattack simulation, Cyber Polygon, will occur in July 2021.

The WEF, Russia’s Sberbank, and its cybersecurity subsidiary BIZONE
announced in February that a new cyberattack simulation would occur
July 9, 2021. The event will simulate a supply-chain cyberattack
similar to the SolarWinds attack that would “assess the cyber
resilience” of the exercise participants.

>From the Article written by Whitney Webb and Johnny Vedmore, “From
Event 201 To Cyber Polygon: The WEF’s Simulation Of A Coming Cyber
Pandemic” :

The exercise comes several months after the WEF, the
“international organization for public-private cooperation” that
counts the world’s richest elite among its members, formally announced
its movement for a Great Reset, which would involve the coordinated
transition to a Fourth Industrial Revolution global economy in which
human workers become increasingly irrelevant. This revolution,
including its biggest proponent, WEF founder Klaus Schwab, has
previously presented a major problem for WEF members and member
organizations in terms of what will happen to the masses of people
left unemployed by the increasing automation and digitalization in the
workplace.

New economic systems that are digitally based and either partnered
with or run by central banks are a key part of the WEF’s Great Reset,
and such systems would be part of the answer to controlling the masses
of the recently unemployed. As others have noted, these digital
monopolies, not just financial services, would allow those who control
them to “turn off” a person’s money and access to services if that
individual does not comply with certain laws, mandates and
regulations.

How do the event coordinators describe Cyber Polygon 2021?

The newly updated event website, Cyber Polygon 2021, ominously warns
as the world is more interconnected and global digitalization
accelerates “a single vulnerable link is enough to bring down the
entire system, just like the domino effect. A secure approach to
digital development today will determine the future of humanity for
decades to come.”

>From the World Economic Forum site:

What is Cyber Polygon?

Cyber Polygon is a unique cybersecurity event that combines the
world’s largest technical training exercise for corporate teams and an
online conference featuring senior officials from international
organisations and leading corporations.

Cyber Polygon in 2021

This year discussions during the live-streamed conference will
centre on secure development of ecosystems. With global digitalisation
further accelerating and people, companies, and countries becoming
ever more interconnected, security of every single element of a
supply-chain is key to ensuring the sustainability of the whole
system.

During the technical exercise, participants will hone their
practical skills in mitigating a targeted supply chain attack on a
corporate ecosystem in real time.

Crises seem to conveniently arise when the people in power want change.

All this ties right into Universal Basic Income. The very popular UBI,
introduced with even more vigor after the COVID 19 pandemic, has
popularized consistent “stimulus payments” to survive the crisis. The
idea of the UBI has been thrown around as a solution to poverty for
some time, with bloggers like Daisy Luther comparing it to modern-day
feudalism. With the building blocks of the technological control grid
already in place, adding a UBI forms a relatively strong foundation.

The WEF has settled on 

COINTELPRO: 1970's - Old News to 2020's DeepState Ops re BLM Antifa Corona Elections Laptop

2020-12-31 Thread professor rat
COINTELPRO in a broad sense might be justified against those BLM'ers that 
identify as Marxist since Marxists can't practice ' Need-to-know '  security 
culture to save their own worthless ' Don't ask - don't tell ' lives.
Its only been sporadically successful against Antifa with that Bridge 
destruction plot as one example.  The net is a boon to anarchist organizing for 
those with a certain amount of nous - explains Louis Beam as well. 
Category error to try and attribute BLM and Antifa to Deep State since you 
never assert conspiracies when stupidity will cover it. October surprise laptop 
just another tedious exercise in Lol-Gop  ratfucking. Republican party 
COINTELPRO against Dumpocraps may have peaked with the Brooks Bros riot since 
they haven't had any great successes since. 
Asfaik the last time the USG had a slim chance of rolling out fascism was late 
2001 - late 2002.
Covert fascism is not the same thing - they can't even use that to stamp out 
the Covid spread.
So all the " GovCorp ' bloviating is just a tale told by an idiot called Gramps 
( with the help of Nazi loser morons like Batshit and the Darkness ) What else 
is new?
You missed out on Btc?
Oh deer.


COINTELPRO: 1970's - Old News to 2020's DeepState Ops re BLM Antifa Corona Elections Laptop

2020-12-31 Thread grarpamp
https://www.nytimes.com/1975/02/24/archives/exoperative-says-he-worked-for-fbi-to-disrupt-political-activities.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25595897
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO


"
Ex‐Operative Says He Worked for F.B.I. to Disrupt Political Activities Up to '74
By John M. Crewdson; Special to The New York Times
February 24, 1975

WASHINGTON, Feb. 23 — Despite assurances by the Justice Department
that the Federal Bureau of Investigation's controversial
Counterintelligence Program was halted in April, 1971, a former
undercover operative says that the bureau continued as late as last
June to employ program‐style, techniques against domestic political
groups.

The former operative, Joseph A. Burton, told The New York Times in a
series of recent interviews of activities he carried out for the
F.B.I. that appear similar to several of the categories of “dirty
tricks” that characterized the Counterintelligence Program, or
Cointelpro, effort.

Mr. Burton's account included examples of bogus documents, informants
and sham “revolutionary” front groups used to disrupt a variety of
political activities in this country.

He also told of “infiltrating” labor unions and, with other F.B.I.
undercover operatives, of reporting to the F.B.I. on the Republican
National Convention at Miami Beach in 1972, and of encouraging and
assisting demonstations against the Nixon Administration over the
Watergate scandals.

F.B.I. Challenges Assertions

An F.B.I. spokesman termed many of Mr. Burton's allegations “distorted
or false” in a statement issued today.

The spokesman reiterated that the bureau's “Cointelpro effort had not
continued beyond April, 1971, and maintained that the F.B.I. had not
instructed Mr. Burton to join or report on any labor unions and had no
knowledge of his involvement in any “violent” demonstrations during
the Miami convention.

Cointelpro's operation is expected to be investigated by the select
committees that the Senate and House of Representatives have recently
set up to examine intelligence gathering by Federal agencies.

Cointelpro was described in a report by the Justice Department last
November as a 17‐ year attempt to disrupt, expose or neutralize such
organizations as the communist party and the Ku Klux Klan.

In making the Cointelpro report public, William B. Saxbe, then the
Attorney General, disclosed that such activities “were implemented at
various times during the period from 1956 to 1971. when all programs
were discontinued.”

No Renewal Asked

Mr. Saxbe, who became Ambassador to India earlier this month, said
that during his tenure as Attorney General he had not been asked to
consider the reinstatement of any Counterintelligence Programs against
domestic groups and could foresee no circumstances under which he
would do so.

He also pointed out that Clarence M. Kelley, the F.B.I. director,
cautioned his agents in December, 1973, when the existence of
Cointelpro was made public, that they must not “engage in any
investiga tive activity which could abridge in any way” the
constitutional rights of American citizens.

In a subsequent speech to Duke University law students, Mr. Kelley
affirmed that he would not direct the bureau to enter into domestic
counterintelligence efforts without first consulting the Attorney
General and the President.

Mr. Burton, who lives in Tampa, Fla., said that he and other
undercover intelligence agents operated bogus “Communist”
organizations, set up with the assistance of the F.B.I., to help them
gain a foothold with radicals in their communities and with other
revolutionary groups around the country.

‘Formed Red Star’ Group

For more than two years, Mr. Burton headed the “Red Star Cadre,”
ostensibly a pro‐Communist Chinese organization that he said he formed
in May, 1972, “at the direction of the bureau,” and directed until he
left the bureau's employ in July, 1974.

The F.B.I., he said, supplied him with everything from the name to
operating funds to Tshirts, bearing a large red star and the legend
“Fight Back,” that he and his radical comrades were to demonstrations.

Mr. Burton, a 42‐year‐old auctioneer and antique dealer, said he
became involved with the F.B.I. after he was invited by a co‐worker at
a Tampa janitorial service to join the Communist party.

Mr. Burton said he advised the F.B.I.'s Tampa field office of the
invitation and was visited the next day by two agents, who persuaded
him to adopt a revolutionary guise and to try to infiltrate radical
groups in the Tampa area. He said he was later asked to infiltrate
other groups in the United States and Canada.

The function of the Red Star Cadre, he said, was to “make other
organizations come to us and want to discuss ideology.”

Attracted Members

He was successful in this, he said, as well as in attracting as
members of his cadre a number of local radicals in whom the F.B.I. was
interested.

Mr. Burton said he was later told by the F.B.I. that his efforts in
Tampa were part of 

Re: Fight Back: Small Business Revolting Against the State re Corona Lockdowns

2020-12-21 Thread grarpamp
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/december/21/government-not-coronavirus-is-killing-small-businesses/

fixed


Fight Back: Small Business Revolting Against the State re Corona Lockdowns

2020-12-21 Thread grarpamp
Coalitions of mass revolt against Govts re Corona Lockdowns
are slowly ramping up worldwide, court cases being won, etc...

https://twitter.com/VenturaReport/status/1338699357202214913
"Are you going to pay my rent? says owner Anton Van Happen of 'Nick
The Greek' to public health inspectors issuing him a citation for
staying open after being issued a closure order. Things got tense
https://pic.twitter.com/9eKCiAjDaw
-- Jorge Ventura Media (@VenturaReport) December 15, 2020
"

Late is better than never... however these revolutions should
have started the day Governments first tried to brainwash you
into further submission and subservience with lockdowns in
January 2020. You don't need Government. Free yourselves.


http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/december/21/government-not-coronavirus-is-killing-small-busi
nesses/
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/mrz121720-color-1mb_orig.jpg


"
The health officials were ordering Mr. Van Happen to close his
business because he allegedly violated California's ban on outdoor
dining. Mr. Van Happen asked the health officials if the government
will pay his employees and his rent while his business is indefinitely
closed.

Mr. Van Happen is hardly the only small business owner worried about
how to pay bills during the lockdowns. Many small businesses operate
on a narrow profit margin, so being forced to "temporarily" shut
down or limit the number of customers they can serve is a virtual
death sentence.

The lockdowns have already caused as many as 200,000 small businesses
to permanently close. Lockdowns, by shrinking the number of employers,
lead to long-term unemployment or lower wages for many workers.

While governments have terrorized small businesses, they have
typically deemed the big chain stores "essential businesses" so
they can remain open. The lockdowns are thus another government
policy that gives big businesses a competitive advantage over their
smaller competitors.

...
"


Speaker Series: Corona spawns The Unmasked

2020-12-02 Thread grarpamp
https://www.theunmasked.net/
https://www.theunmasked.net/news.htm

Dec 5 PA
Dec 27 CA


Censored off Social media...


"
ABOUT US

WE ARE ABOUT THE RESTORATION OF HUMAN INTEGRITY AND SELF RESPECT

We are normal people living in a global lunatic asylum just like you.
And like many, we are thoroughly distressed about the reaction of the
people, especially those who willfully acquiesce and so uncritically
obey draconian authority.

We are alarmed not by an exaggerated and mostly harmless virus, but by
the senseless behavior of people who by their actions are enabling
this tyranny and the local, national and global governments and their
enforcers to engage in this despicable political agenda.

By the symbol of the mask, which is clearly not about health, we see
at least 2 kinds of people, the obedient and the skeptics.

The small but growing organization we call “The Unmasked” is comprised
of highly committed people who are beyond skepticism and understand
the urgency of action now, before it is too late.

Our aim is to coordinate those whose voices have been silenced and
whose identities as freedom loving people has now been hidden by the
ubiquitous orders to wear a mask. They have lost not only their voice
but also their capacity to be visually distinguished from the lockdown
fanatics and conspirators.

We have all been forced to conform.

We are in a war for our lives and way of life. The lockdown fanatics
do not see this and virtue signal their pride and obedience by their
complicit behavior. As such, they represent a substantial force of
danger fully allied with the enforcers.

It’s Frightening

Our first step is to reverse the trend to erase the identities of the
skeptics, critical thinkers and voices of dissent.

Wearing the wristband will send a storm of shock waves through the
global governments and their enforcers. Like the mask, the wristband
is a visual symbol that all will immediately see. It is the peaceful
force of resistance to disempower the ruling class’ grip on all
humanity. It is also the core of power and comfort enabling those with
dissenting voices to see and embrace each other.

Most importantly, wearing the wristband, you will know that you are no
longer alone.

Our hope is that one day, we will live in a world where all will be “Unmasked”.
"


1984: World War III, Corona, Biosecurity, And You!

2020-09-28 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jg4jzDmMac WWIII, Corona, Biosecurity, And You!


Aussie Rona killer: Ivermectin ‘Amazingly Successful’ In Killing Corona virus

2020-08-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
If you feel compelled to be in fear of the flu, then fear no more as you kin be 
pretty sure _some_ Ossie bastard's gonna throw a spanner in the pharmaceutical 
works :)

So if you missed the (literally) green tea and zinc memo, here's another combo 
which in this case happens to come straight off the "approved by the FDA and is 
on the World Health Organization’s model list of essential medicines" - not 
dissimilar to HCQ.



- Forwarded message from Gil May  -

From: Gil May 
To: rea...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:52:51 +1000
Subject: Ivermectin ‘Amazingly Successful’ In Killing Corona virus

*Australian Professor Thomas Borody: Ivermectin ‘Amazingly Successful’ In
Killing Coronavirus*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8=F6A6RFDprIs=emb_logo



*An Australian drug known as Ivermectin, which is already in use throughout
the world to treat parasitic conditions, is showing great results in
killing coronavirus in studies involving patients, according to Sky News
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs=youtu.be>.*

“Because I’m involved in developing these in the U.S. where all the
patients are, there are a number of studies that are amazingly successful.
We’re talking close to 100%.

“In fact, we haven’t seen a result yet under 100%. It looks like corona is
very simple to kill,” Professor Thomas Borody, medical director of
Australia’s Center for Digestive Disease.

“It’s available as a prescription medication. You wouldn’t use it alone …
but you add two other things to it such as doxycycline and zinc.”

*[image: A Health Worker Shows A Bottle Of Ivermectin]*

A Health Worker Shows A Bottle Of Ivermectin

Ivermectin is already approved by the FDA and is on the World Health
Organization’s list of model list of essential medicines.

“We had a 14-hospital trial in Bangladesh. We got [cured] 100 out of 100.
In China, they tried to reproduce it. They got 60 out of 60 cured …

“So I am behind the Ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc treatment because it has
very few side effects and is a real killer of coronavirus,” Borody said.

Borody said the Ivermectin tablet could cost as little as $2
<https://www.biospectrumasia.com/news/91/16457/australian-develops-effective-triple-therapy-to-treat-covid-19.html>,
which is likely why drugmakers haven’t promoted the drug’s usage.

He also suggested that have a cure for the disease easily would do away
with the need for people to be hospitalized, which would make doctors less
money.

“There’s no huge pharmaceutical company behind it to spend millions of
dollars and put people in places to treat,” Borody said.

- End forwarded message -


Re: Cryptocurrency: Documentary, Corona, Floyd Protests, Taxes

2020-06-06 Thread Karl
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 5:26 AM grarpamp  wrote:

> Bitcoin and Black America - Isaiah Jackson
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oAuq3H3WTE  Exit Matrix
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5M3hZwvkMc


It sounds like people sharing bitcoin don't express understanding that many
have no access to nor understanding of it.  Otherwise it could obviously
help provide extra resources and uncensored expression.  Advocates are
needed to provide that empowerment if relevent.

Too many videos to watch them all.


Cryptocurrency: Documentary, Corona, Floyd Protests, Taxes

2020-06-06 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPG-5D4XKo Inside The Crypto Kingdom
- Ep 2: Goldrush
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC316GY-U17BkwN8D7oKM0iw/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWrG6TCP1fA 80 Trillion Exit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TLppsfzQH8 Limitless Meme

https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/gvi1q3/this_was_just_broadcasted_in_live_tv_in_los/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYqNg0-HlY4 Opt Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5wT5CFzD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFDGpr3MWZ4
https://i.redd.it/odngu6c8y8251.jpg

https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/gvu88z/whypaytaxes/
https://i.redd.it/9bvs0td79p251.gif

Bitcoin and Black America - Isaiah Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oAuq3H3WTE  Exit Matrix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5M3hZwvkMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkBz72fjkrs WCN


Re: corona

2020-05-01 Thread grarpamp
On 4/26/20, \0xDynamite  wrote:
> Does anyone else feel like America has become the weakest society in
> history?

History so far remains top bitch not caring about any of societies.
History also shows government hastens societies own demise.
All extant societies are weak, or perhaps more properly... laughable.

> How does anyone know that the virus isn't giving a chance to
> evolve?  That it's lethality comes from having some bit of wisdom from
> the biosphere that humans either need to learn or die from?

Biosphere has amazing way adapting to exploit holes,
rendering ultimate balance and filter in time.
It has to date been incapable of stopping its human adversary.
What odds are taken between...?
a) Humanity's Earth Overshoot decends itself into its
own depravity, fecal wastes, etc... biosphere launches
its knockout strike from there.
b) Humanity somehow bows and adopts balance beforehand.


corona

2020-04-26 Thread \0xDynamite
Does anyone else feel like America has become the weakest society in
history?  How does anyone know that the virus isn't giving a chance to
evolve?  That it's lethality comes from having some bit of wisdom from
the biosphere that humans either need to learn or die from?

marcos


Corona Virus False Flag Operation Debunked by Real Medical Science

2020-04-03 Thread fakevirus

Groundbreaking podcast and scientific papers prove:

The government and media are lying to you about Corona Virus / COVID-19 
/ coronachan.


COVID-19 *is* a psyop / false flag operation.

Corona Virus response is a mass psychosis that has gripped most of the 
world.


USA has been converted into an open-air prison gulag with nary a whimper 
of protest. People are ceding all their liberty to the state to 
"protect" them from a virus that does not even exist. At the beck and 
call of Pravda the American People are isolating themselves and further 
deepening the hysterical mass psychosis that is foisted upon them by 
their utterly insane government and military "protectors."


The Corona Virus Pandemic is a highly successful mass delusion that is 
terrorizing and traumatizing most of the people in western civilization.


There is no deadly corona virus. There are no deaths from COVID-19. Not 
one.


Periodic updates in Bitmessage [chan] coronachan.

Fake Corona Virus Debunked by Real Medical Science
==

Episode 249: Dr. David Rasnick on the Coronavirus
https://player.fm/series/progressive-radio-network/the-infectious-myth-david-rasnick-on-the-coronavirus

Fake Corona Virus Tests
http://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf

David Crow Corona Virus Exposed as Massive Fraud
https://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv.php

The Infectious Myth
http://theinfectiousmyth.com


Re: Cryptome Ponders Releasing Archive In Preparation For Corona Meltdown

2020-03-28 Thread Comet Dweller
On 28/03/2020 21:28, grarpamp wrote:
> Corona's global meltdown and human removal potential
> leads some risk and preservation analysts to call for the
> immediate internet / list distribution of the complete
> and brought to current date 150+GiB Cryptome Archive.
> Including... Inscom, Kill-maim, Eyeball, NYC buildings, Venezuela,
> FISC, other series, files, updates, supplements, historicals,
> intros, outros, presentations, indexes, collaborative works, etc.
>
> Cpunks list available for implementation consultation.
>
> https://transmissionbt.com/
> https://rsync.samba.org/
> https://gnupg.org/
> .

If this stuff was being held back for a rainy day, I'd say this is the
rainy day. The longer it is held back, the longer it risks never being
released.

Release it on as many diverse distribution channels as possible (in
digitally signed container files so as be able to show that it hasn't
been tampered with since leaving current storage).


Re: Cryptome Ponders Releasing Archive In Preparation For Corona Meltdown

2020-03-28 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 3/28/20 16:28, grarpamp wrote:
> Corona's global meltdown and human removal potential
> leads some risk and preservation analysts to call for the
> immediate internet / list distribution of the complete
> and brought to current date 150+GiB Cryptome Archive.
> Including... Inscom, Kill-maim, Eyeball, NYC buildings, Venezuela,
> FISC, other series, files, updates, supplements, historicals,
> intros, outros, presentations, indexes, collaborative works, etc.
> 
> Cpunks list available for implementation consultation.

I have a copy of the archive through 2016 June if that would help get
the ball rolling.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 
http://www.rantroulette.com
http://www.skqrecordquest.com


Re: Cryptome Ponders Releasing Archive In Preparation For Corona Meltdown

2020-03-28 Thread Greg Newby
John,

If a mirror site is truly of interest, I would be happy to host one in the US 
(San Diego) and/or Canada (Toronto). Send a note if that might be something you 
wish to pursue. 

I also have sufficient space on an rsync-based backup service, if you just want 
an offsite copy for safe keeping.

Best regards to you & yours. Stay safe out there. You are at the physical 
epicenter of the virus in the US.
  Greg

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 05:28:12PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> Corona's global meltdown and human removal potential
> leads some risk and preservation analysts to call for the
> immediate internet / list distribution of the complete
> and brought to current date 150+GiB Cryptome Archive.
> Including... Inscom, Kill-maim, Eyeball, NYC buildings, Venezuela,
> FISC, other series, files, updates, supplements, historicals,
> intros, outros, presentations, indexes, collaborative works, etc.
> 
> Cpunks list available for implementation consultation.
> 
> https://transmissionbt.com/
> https://rsync.samba.org/
> https://gnupg.org/


Re: Cryptome Ponders Releasing Archive In Preparation For Corona Meltdown

2020-03-28 Thread Zig the N.g
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 05:28:12PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> Corona's global meltdown and human removal potential
> leads some risk and preservation analysts to call for the
> immediate internet / list distribution of the complete
> and brought to current date 150+GiB Cryptome Archive.
> Including... Inscom, Kill-maim, Eyeball, NYC buildings, Venezuela,
> FISC, other series, files, updates, supplements, historicals,
> intros, outros, presentations, indexes, collaborative works, etc.
> 
> Cpunks list available for implementation consultation.
> 
> https://transmissionbt.com/
> https://rsync.samba.org/
> https://gnupg.org/


Naah, don't do it!  That information should NOT be made public in this epidemic 
fear enfironment - one just shudders to think of the consequences.


Cryptome Ponders Releasing Archive In Preparation For Corona Meltdown

2020-03-28 Thread grarpamp
Corona's global meltdown and human removal potential
leads some risk and preservation analysts to call for the
immediate internet / list distribution of the complete
and brought to current date 150+GiB Cryptome Archive.
Including... Inscom, Kill-maim, Eyeball, NYC buildings, Venezuela,
FISC, other series, files, updates, supplements, historicals,
intros, outros, presentations, indexes, collaborative works, etc.

Cpunks list available for implementation consultation.

https://transmissionbt.com/
https://rsync.samba.org/
https://gnupg.org/


Corona cash -- Fw: Aussie parliament: Hand out $84 billion in cash, then piss off for 5 months

2020-03-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Take notice:
---

OK, so with broad compliance (acceptance of the lock down) within our community 
obviating the "need" for a heavier "sanction against the unruly" such as 
electricity grid "lights out", and a steady ratcheting of the "don't panic" 
narrative so that folks are finally dawning with the awareness that 
"something's happening, may be I should buy some spare toilet paper and pasta", 
and finally the "Western" money reset on our doorstep, the Aussie parliament 
has done a sensible thing (from the point of view of TPTB) increasing welfare 
cheques by ~$250 per week.

Then, they packed up parliament for the next 5 months.  Literally.
  
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-passes-parliament/12080388

Yes, you read that right.


What does it mean?
---

It means that welfare recipients in Australia (those who tend to live week to 
week at subsistence level) are about to get some relevant cash to stock up on 
toilet paper, pasta and potatoes, starting nowish, and first arriving (per the 
normal dole cycle) over the coming two weeks - also, these additional payments 
might continue for a couple of months it seems.


Why is this is a "good thing"?
---

Those otherwise unable, are now able to do a little stockpiling.  If this is 
relevant to you, let's be grateful for how merciful this actually is.

Seriously, if you have not done so already, take the steps you need to, to be 
ready for a month long "full" lock down!

It may not be a full month, or it may end up being a little more. Some guess it 
should only need to be about two weeks.


What does this predict?
---

This tells us that folks should have two or three payment cycles (4 to six 
weeks) to get their house in order, set aside a few supplies for the Level 5 
"hard" lockdown which is evidently coming.

It also means we're perhaps about 3 months out from the global financial reset.

Russia at least has positioned herself extraordinarily well for a beautiful 
sovereign seat!  Thank you Putin!  We shall soon see the beginnings of the 
shape of the new, this time multi polar, world order.

Our gutless cowards in Canberra Australia have sold our nation out to the 
highest NWO bidder to the tune of about a trillion dollars, despite the fact we 
mine so much gold we could have fully backed our entire currency with about 10 
years of our sovereign gold output!

Alas, we are likely to repeat another "century of humiliation" as Rothschild's 
bitches.


As some might say, "you get what you f#@4ing deserve"; howso? well, the fine 
conspiracy theorists at cypherpunks, anti-empire, duran, russia-insider and 
even Donald Trump himself prior to being elected, have been diligently 
highlighting certain conspiracies^Bfacts, for many years now, but humans, the 
sheeple or plebes or plebles, in general "just wanna watch the footy, stop 
bugging me moron!"


Notwithstanding, again, let's be grateful for the reprieve right now, that 
almost everyone is being granted the means to stash some staples for the coming 
transition.




- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness  -

From: Zenaan Harkness 
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 09:47:50 +1100
Subject: Aussie parliament: Hand out $84 billion in cash, then piss off for 5
 months

Hand out $84 billion in cash, then piss off for 5 months :)


  Coronavirus stimulus package worth $84 billion passed without objection by 
Parliament
  
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-passes-parliament/12080388


- End forwarded message -


India: 1st 2020 death due to flu^Bcoronavirus - quarantines entire country, literally -- Re: Corona-Virus: A "Collective Fear Event"

2020-03-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
TFW you quarantine ~1/6th of the world's entire population based on a single 
fatality :)


  Preventive Measures Are Good, But Has Panic Struck India Harder Than 
Coronavirus?
  
https://sputniknews.com/india/202003131078554174-preventive-measures-are-good-but-has-panic-struck-india-harder-than-coronavirus/

New Delhi (Sputnik): With the Indian government’s unprecedented move to 
suspend all visas and introduce a travel ban, the country appears to have 
literally quarantined itself. There are over 75 confirmed cases of coronavirus 
in India, which also witnessed the first death caused by the infection on 12 
March.
...



Corona-Virus: A "Collective Fear Event"

2020-03-08 Thread Razer
"In essence, then, we are dealing with a collective fear event. In our
prosperous, technically controlled and automated world, we are no longer
used to things being unpredictable. And so therefore we like to assume
the worst."

Opinion: We need to deal with our coronavirus panic

It's right to take precautions; the coronavirus is not to be trifled
with. Even without a vaccine, there's no need to panic. But we do so
anyway, says DW's Jens Thurau after covering the outbreak.

The taxi driver who drives me from our editorial office to the Robert
Koch Institute in Berlin has her own view on the number one topic in
Germany.

She asks: "What happens if the newspapers write: 'Don't be afraid of the
pink elephant! Then people will say: 'Oh God, we have pink elephants here?'"

That is an accurate description of what Germany is currently
experiencing with the new virus from China. Business trips are being
canceled, including domestic ones. Bottles of disinfectant are suddenly
mounted on office walls.

People want to be tested even if they show no or only minor symptoms.
Trade fairs are being canceled, party conferences are on the brink. And
yet every morning the train is tortuously full as usual. And why
wouldn't it be? Should we really follow the advice of scientists and go
into closed quarantine?

Do we have to stockpile now?

No we don't. Although, the scientists are also right, strictly speaking:
If everyone would sit still where they are for two weeks the virus would
hardly stand a chance. But unlike in Italy, for example, the epidemic in
Germany is, as the experts tell us, still in the "containment" phase. In
other words, infected persons are isolated and treated, contact persons
are tracked down. A kindergarten or a school might be closed down, but
not the whole country.

So do we have to do our "hamster-shopping" now, as some have already
done here and there? When a whole society is gripped by fear, all good
manners fall by the wayside: Unfortunately, one must say, especially
German society. So people are hoarding protective face masks, even
though, the experts tell us, they are of no use, but are urgently needed
in hospitals and doctors' surgeries. Not only, it is obviously criminal
to steal masks and sell them at a marked-up price on the internet. But
it only works because people easily fall into hysteria and create the
illegal market in the first place.

At press conferences with Health Minister Jens Spahn or the experts from
the Robert Koch Institute, Germany's main public health authority,
questions are asked that actually only prove how stupid journalists can
be. Why is there still no vaccine, one asked, with accusatory undertone?
The virologist Christian Drosten, now known throughout Germany and a
regular guest on television, who is feverishly researching a corona
vaccine with his international colleagues, is forced to make an effort
to control himself with difficulty and repeat the same lines: The virus
is new, many things are still unknown, we are working on it, but there
is no faster way. His expression shows that he thinks the press
conference is wasting his time.

So we grope our way through the epidemic. The ITB international tourism
fair in Berlin is canceled, the Hannover industrial trade fair
postponed. But the Bundesliga is still playing in full stadiums. The
president of the Robert Koch Institute, Lothar Wieler, isn't really
getting through with his message that most new infections are now
happening within Germany, so people are hardly bringing the virus from
abroad anymore. This is good news because it means that there are
probably fewer contact people to find and the experts can concentrate on
fighting the virus at home.



A collective fear

In essence, then, we are dealing with a collective fear event. In our
prosperous, technically controlled and automated world, we are no longer
used to things being unpredictable. And so therefore we like to assume
the worst.

What we have been familiar with for a long time are the flu waves during
the cold season. Just for comparison, as of Friday, March 5: Since the
beginning of the year, over 100,000 people in Germany have fallen ill
with flu and around 200 have also died of it. Among them are many old,
already sick and weakened people. But this number does not make the
headlines.

It is like flying: Experts and statisticians never tire of pointing out
that the airplane is the safest of all means of transportation. The risk
of dying in road traffic is much higher. But the images of horrible
plane crashes just keep on etching themselves onto our brains. The many
thousands of successful take-offs and landings, every day, just happen,
and aren't worth a headline.

'Chill out, Germany!'

On the whole, my impression is that doctors, nurses and scientists in
Germany are still managing the coronavirus well. Certainly, the health
system has weaknesses, the health authorities in the municipalities are
overstretched a

Hospital overflow and corona virus

2020-03-05 Thread Georgi Guninski
Is the so called "society" ready for the time when there
are not enough hospitals for ill from corona virus?

AFAIK all ill from corona virus are sent to hospitals
to not spread the disease further.

The Chinese built a new hospital for about a week.



Corona-Virus Kills!

2020-03-03 Thread Razer

Corona virus has killed about 3,000 people.

It has crashed financial markets and gets 24/7 saturation news coverage.

9 million people a year die from starvation

25,000 deaths a day

The media never mentions it.

The difference?

Corona Virus kills rich people.

Starvation doesn't.

Rr.

As a meme: https://i.redd.it/qk6r7kaz89k41.jpg



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Re: Expected duration of the Corona virus threat?

2020-02-28 Thread Razer

A WhooHoo Flu mortality chart so far.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/images10/corona17-s.jpg

As you can see you're more liable to get clobbered with a stray part
that fell of a jetliner and certainly more liable to get killed by a
stray bullet fired by an off-duty pig.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/02/coronavirus-globally.html

Rr

Ps. "Wearing a mask, unless it is a special N-95 respirator which also
makes it difficult to breathe, does not prevent one from catching the
virus. "

Be very afraid, of the flu. Die of your fears. Leaves more air for the
rest of us.






On 2/28/20 2:09 PM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> On 27/02/2020 15:01, Georgi Guninski wrote:
>> What is the expected duration of the Corona virus threat?
>
> Healthwise, best guess worst case, the dying should be over in a
> couple of years. Worst guess best case, a couple of months.
>
>>
>> Not only death counts, include fear, social, technological
>> and economic threats.
>
> Long-term consequences could be very long-term, initially ten years or
> so? Think of it like 9/11 but with a lot more dying.
>
>>
>> And what is the mortality rate of common flu?
>
> It varies quite a lot depending on the kind of 'flu, weather etc, but
> for seasonal 'flu about 1 in 10,000 or 0.01% per year is about
> average. A twentieth of that rate for children and the young and
> healthy. That's for everybody, including people who don't get flu.
>
> In a year, on average, about 20% of people get 'flu. This is mainly
> because of vaccination - it would probably be about 65% without
> vaccination. The death rate for people with 'flu is about 5 in 10,000.
>
> So say 65 million cases of 'flu in the US per year, with 30,000 US
> deaths per year, almost entirely the old - child deaths from seasonal
> flu in the US are only about 150 per year.
>
> 'Flu has been given the sobriquet "the old man's friend" - on the
> theory that it is better dying over a week from 'flu than over months
> or years from cancer, Alzheimer's, COPD etc. Gives friends and family
> time to say goodbye, but the patient doesn't suffer much or for too
> long. And seasonal 'flu kills the elderly almost exclusively.
>
>
> Pandemic 'flu can kill at much higher rates - the 1918 pandemic had a
> death rate of well over 10% of the ~17% of the population who got it
> during the first six months of the pandemic, though death rates
> decreased later. This was also an all-age death spread, the
> fit-and-healthy died about as often as the elderly.
>
>
>
>
> Best data I have seen for COVID-19 mortality is from 50 in 10,000 or
> 0.5% for the young-and-fit to 1,500 in 10,000 or 15% for those over 75
> and those with pre-existing heart disease. Diabetes and COPD are also
> bad co-morbidities to have, at about 10% mortality.
>
> COVID-19 seems to kill mostly the elderly, but not nearly as
> exclusively as 'flu. The young-and-fit are also very much at risk.
>
> This would give an overall mortality rate of about 150-200 per 10,000
> or 1.5%-2%. With an estimated 65% of the US population catching
> COVID-19 that would be 4 million US deaths: much worse than AIDS, and
> potentially the worst pandemic since the Plague.
>
>
>
> What could change that? Well, that figure is for people with at least
> semi-decent health care. If society and health care break down (this
> is unlikely to happen) US mortality could reach 15 million or more. On
> the other hand extra-good healthcare might bring it down a bit.
>
> Coronaviruses mutate fairly rapidly, and for something like 2019-nCoV
> these mutations generally tend towards less lethal varieties. So you
> might still see a lot of sick people but with a lot fewer deaths.
>
>
> It is also not impossible to make a vaccine in a fairly short time -
> or make 10 vaccines, quickly test them for safety, then fuck the
> effectiveness testing and just give people the best-looking 3 or 4
> safe ones. That could be done in about 3-4 months if lots of people
> were dying and some otherwise-sensible rules were set aside.
>
> Antiviral drugs might also work, but ignoring licensing these are
> expensive and slow to make and of uncertain efficacy. It took quite a
> while for an effective AIDS cocktail to be worked out.
>
>
> I don't have much hope that containment will stop the disease, but it
> is worth trying; if nothing else in order to slow down the spread of
> the infection. This gives more time for creating treatments and
> treatment plans, hospital preparedness, a slower case rate requires
> less treatment capacity and allows more treatment per patient, and so on.
>
>
> People might (!would!) argue the numbers in this post a little, but I
> think they are at least roughly correct. The COVID-19 numbers might be
> a bit low as it is in many cases still too early to predict the outcome.
>
> Peter Fairbrother




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Re: Expected duration of the Corona virus threat?

2020-02-28 Thread Peter Fairbrother

On 27/02/2020 15:01, Georgi Guninski wrote:

What is the expected duration of the Corona virus threat?


Healthwise, best guess worst case, the dying should be over in a couple 
of years. Worst guess best case, a couple of months.




Not only death counts, include fear, social, technological
and economic threats.


Long-term consequences could be very long-term, initially ten years or 
so? Think of it like 9/11 but with a lot more dying.




And what is the mortality rate of common flu?


It varies quite a lot depending on the kind of 'flu, weather etc, but 
for seasonal 'flu about 1 in 10,000 or 0.01% per year is about average. 
A twentieth of that rate for children and the young and healthy. That's 
for everybody, including people who don't get flu.


In a year, on average, about 20% of people get 'flu. This is mainly 
because of vaccination - it would probably be about 65% without 
vaccination. The death rate for people with 'flu is about 5 in 10,000.


So say 65 million cases of 'flu in the US per year, with 30,000 US 
deaths per year, almost entirely the old - child deaths from seasonal 
flu in the US are only about 150 per year.


'Flu has been given the sobriquet "the old man's friend" - on the theory 
that it is better dying over a week from 'flu than over months or years 
from cancer, Alzheimer's, COPD etc. Gives friends and family time to say 
goodbye, but the patient doesn't suffer much or for too long. And 
seasonal 'flu kills the elderly almost exclusively.



Pandemic 'flu can kill at much higher rates - the 1918 pandemic had a 
death rate of well over 10% of the ~17% of the population who got it 
during the first six months of the pandemic, though death rates 
decreased later. This was also an all-age death spread, the 
fit-and-healthy died about as often as the elderly.





Best data I have seen for COVID-19 mortality is from 50 in 10,000 or 
0.5% for the young-and-fit to 1,500 in 10,000 or 15% for those over 75 
and those with pre-existing heart disease. Diabetes and COPD are also 
bad co-morbidities to have, at about 10% mortality.


COVID-19 seems to kill mostly the elderly, but not nearly as exclusively 
as 'flu. The young-and-fit are also very much at risk.


This would give an overall mortality rate of about 150-200 per 10,000 or 
1.5%-2%. With an estimated 65% of the US population catching COVID-19 
that would be 4 million US deaths: much worse than AIDS, and potentially 
the worst pandemic since the Plague.




What could change that? Well, that figure is for people with at least 
semi-decent health care. If society and health care break down (this is 
unlikely to happen) US mortality could reach 15 million or more. On the 
other hand extra-good healthcare might bring it down a bit.


Coronaviruses mutate fairly rapidly, and for something like 2019-nCoV 
these mutations generally tend towards less lethal varieties. So you 
might still see a lot of sick people but with a lot fewer deaths.



It is also not impossible to make a vaccine in a fairly short time - or 
make 10 vaccines, quickly test them for safety, then fuck the 
effectiveness testing and just give people the best-looking 3 or 4 safe 
ones. That could be done in about 3-4 months if lots of people were 
dying and some otherwise-sensible rules were set aside.


Antiviral drugs might also work, but ignoring licensing these are 
expensive and slow to make and of uncertain efficacy. It took quite a 
while for an effective AIDS cocktail to be worked out.



I don't have much hope that containment will stop the disease, but it is 
worth trying; if nothing else in order to slow down the spread of the 
infection. This gives more time for creating treatments and treatment 
plans, hospital preparedness, a slower case rate requires less treatment 
capacity and allows more treatment per patient, and so on.



People might (!would!) argue the numbers in this post a little, but I 
think they are at least roughly correct. The COVID-19 numbers might be a 
bit low as it is in many cases still too early to predict the outcome.


Peter Fairbrother


Re: Expected duration of the Corona virus threat?

2020-02-27 Thread Razer
Ps. I can tell who the feds and useful fearmongering sicko idiots on
this list are by their promotion of the agitprop.

On 2/27/20 7:01 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
> What is the expected duration of the Corona virus threat?
>
> Not only death counts, include fear, social, technological
> and economic threats.
>
> And what is the mortality rate of common flu?




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Re: Expected duration of the Corona virus threat?

2020-02-27 Thread Razer


On 2/27/20 7:01 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
> What is the expected duration of the Corona virus threat?
>
> Not only death counts, include fear, social, technological
> and economic threats.
>
> And what is the mortality rate of common flu?
>
>

The common flu is much more dangerous, but anti-China hybrid economic
war agitprop by the media in collusion with western intelligence
agencies and governments is more dangerous still.

About the "Reporting"
https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/covid-19-coronavirus.php




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Re: Expected duration of the Corona virus threat?

2020-02-27 Thread rooty
Hi hi hi Ge0rgI how ya doin. Hopefully it doest last long althought I don't 
think it hurts bots only humans. According to taser it's fake news

 Original Message 
On Feb 27, 2020, 7:01 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:

> What is the expected duration of the Corona virus threat?
>
> Not only death counts, include fear, social, technological
> and economic threats.
>
> And what is the mortality rate of common flu?

Expected duration of the Corona virus threat?

2020-02-27 Thread Georgi Guninski
What is the expected duration of the Corona virus threat?

Not only death counts, include fear, social, technological
and economic threats.

And what is the mortality rate of common flu?


China stops erroneously counting every case of Pneumonia as evidence of Corona-virus

2020-02-24 Thread Razer

Case count reduced dramatically:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/02/coronavirus-the-decline-of-new-cases-continues-economic-ripples-begin-to-emerge.html

...and the reality of what amounts to nothing more than economic hybrid
war waged by the US comes back to bite YOU on the ASS, wage slave. You
didn't REALLY think the economic elite of the US or CAPITALIST China
were going to suffer, did you?

"U.S. stock markets drop more than 3.5 percent amid coronavirus fears

The Dow at one point plunged more than 1,000 points as markets sounded
the alarm about the relentless spread and widening economic impact of
the virus."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/24/stocks-dow-nasdaq-coronavirus/



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