Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread sturmflut
Hi Timur, On 04.04.2018 21:06, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > 1. DT relies only on libexiv2 in extraction of EXIF metadata. > 2. exiv2 fails to extract vendor specific information from DNG file > (converted via Adobe DNG Converter) when compared with exiftool. But > original NEF data is ther

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > Davletshin: > > Hello everybody! > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem > > related > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). > >

[darktable-dev] Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread The Ritz
A bug in DTs metadata reader is not a good argument for your cause. ;) On April 4, 2018 13:36:36 Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: > Hello everybody! > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem related

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 16:09 +0200, sturmflut wrote: > Hello Timur, > > On 04.04.2018 13:15, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > > > Simple investigation with exiftool shows that no lens information > > is > > lost in DNG. > > I guess if the data is there and exiftool sees the same values in > bo

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 16:09 +0200, sturmflut wrote: > Hello Timur, > > On 04.04.2018 13:15, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > > > Simple investigation with exiftool shows that no lens information > > is > > lost in DNG. > > I guess if the data is there and exiftool sees the same values in > bo

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 15:37:29 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: [...] > This is why I wrote 'native or converted' in my previous letter. Dear > Patrick, I'm not here for the purpose of your religious war against DNG > which is *not* standard. I think this is just an obvious bug whic

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Bernhard
Tobias Ellinghaus schrieb am 04.04.2018 um 13:36: Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: Hello everybody! Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem related to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread sturmflut
Hello Timur, On 04.04.2018 13:15, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > Simple investigation with exiftool shows that no lens information is > lost in DNG. I guess if the data is there and exiftool sees the same values in both files, but different things happen later on, that would point in the di

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:49 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 09:40]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04- > > > 18 > > > 08:46]: > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanaha

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 09:40]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > > 08:46]: > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04- > > > > 18 > > > > 08:0

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 08:46]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04- > > > 18 > > > 08:01]: > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellingha

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 09:08]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > > 08:01]: > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irik

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 08:46]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > > 08:01]: > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irik

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 08:01]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > > > Davletshin: > > > > Hello everybody! > > > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 08:01]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > > > Davletshin: > > > > Hello everybody! > > > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 08:01]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > > Davletshin: > > > Hello everybody! > > > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > Davletshin: > > Hello everybody! > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem > > related > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: > Hello everybody! > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem related > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). > > 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies correct lens parameters. > Lens info