Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Girts Gailans
For what it's worth ... I used to be an enthusiastic LR user. In fact, I used LR when it was a free program developed by a small band of enthusiasts. I can't even remember if it was called LR before Adobe bought it, but the point is that I'm a very long time user of LR in all its incarnations.

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Terry Pinfold
It is really worth investing the time in learning DT. As an editing program it leaves LR for dead. Yes Adobe has made a very easy to use product. Rather than complicated modules just a few sliders and you have a good image. LR is like an automatic car. DT is a high performance sports car. Depends

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Jesus Arocho
Agreed. I have been using DT for several years. Last year I purchased LR for several months and was lost; dropped the sub and continued on DT. I compile from the latest dev branch on ubuntu and on a small Windows machine for travel (laptop) is heavier. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:55 PM Pascal

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Kneops
Almost my path in raw software. Started with RT and DT, than found Aftershot Pro (= Bibble) which was decent enough but no development (indeed Corel fucked up the original software and are deceiving new users), than back to DT for about 2 years until I tried LR. Not lost but instead remarkably

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Kneops
True! I'm using LR now for going through my archive and I agree that at some point it can get restrictive, but as I said earlier, for 99% of my images it works very well and very fast. I don't like the library system though, so at some point I will import everything in DT. Op 24-08-2020 om

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Kneops
A penny worth of thoughts :) More than that. Yes it could be time, but I just want to add that I'm in no way new to editing software and have switched many times. I started in the nineties with Photoshop, then used many brands of software while working in a design company until I switched to

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Michael [08-24-20 14:21]: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:53 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Jason Polak [08-24-20 11:56]: > > > I wonder though if some of that is not the psychology of used first vs. > > > second, though. Because, I started out with darktable, and only years > > > later did

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Michael
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:53 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Jason Polak [08-24-20 11:56]: > > I wonder though if some of that is not the psychology of used first vs. > > second, though. Because, I started out with darktable, and only years > > later did I try lightroom, and I found doing

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 24 août 2020 à 18:25 +0100, Ricardo Kozmate.Net a écrit : > "Don't want to" is bit tough on people. Don't you have crossed people thinking like this, with dubious arguments to not use Linux, dubious arguments to not learn Libre Office, dubious arguments to not use GIMP or dt... Because

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jason Polak [08-24-20 11:56]: > I wonder though if some of that is not the psychology of used first vs. > second, though. Because, I started out with darktable, and only years > later did I try lightroom, and I found doing things in Lightroom > confusing even after half an hour with it. And

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Mikael Ståldal
I think you misunderstood. I am not a professional photographer, and I don't do photo editing every day. It would have been way less than I month if I have spent a couple of hours every day on this. Calendar time vs. effective time. On 2020-08-24 09:07, Kneops wrote: Hi Michael. I agree

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Ricardo Kozmate.Net
Hi, all. Em 24/08/2020 17:47, Pascal Obry escreveu: Le lundi 24 août 2020 à 11:54 -0400, Jason Polak a écrit : I wonder though if some of that is not the psychology of used first vs. second, though. I think that's exactly that indeed. People don't want to change their mind and learn new

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 24 août 2020 à 11:54 -0400, Jason Polak a écrit : > I wonder though if some of that is not the psychology of used first > vs. second, though. I think that's exactly that indeed. People don't want to change their mind and learn new things. On my side, I've been a Lr user for 5 years+

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Jason Polak
I wonder though if some of that is not the psychology of used first vs. second, though. Because, I started out with darktable, and only years later did I try lightroom, and I found doing things in Lightroom confusing even after half an hour with it. And when I first started out with darktable, I

Re: [darktable-user] language bug in DT 3.2 on MacOs

2020-08-24 Thread parafin
It seems you are reporting 2 bugs: 1). default language in darktable doesn't follow system settings - this is a known bug, where even if English is set as preferred language, darktable chooses second preferred language configured in the system:

[darktable-user] language bug in DT 3.2 on MacOs

2020-08-24 Thread daniel patin
Hi, accidentally, I found myself in German, with Darktable 3.2.1 on MacOs Catalina and impossible to change the settings. I was able to modify the .config/darktablerc file, but the drop-down list in the settings doesn't work. — Daniel Patin https://mediators-le-niglo.fr @leinadfr @mediatorsNiglo

Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review

2020-08-24 Thread Kneops
Hi Michael. I agree ofcourse with what you say, but 'After a month'... is exactly what I mean. If it takes a month, something is not right. I never used LR, but opening it and - like I said - I could edit 99% of my images the way I want within 5 minutes. I even don't use Gimp anymore, unless