Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-03 Thread Bernhard
Peter Schlaufer schrieb am 03.02.21 um 11:42: To me it seems, that this entire discussion circles around a covetousness, that images should appear better or sharper on screen, than they are in reality Regards Peter good point - and this particular image is not - especially to the

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-03 Thread Peter Schlaufer
To me it seems, that this entire discussion circles around a covetousness, that images should appear better or sharper on screen, than they are in reality Regards Peter > Am 02.02.2021 um 22:58 schrieb Pascal Obry : > > Le mardi 02 février 2021 à 19:34 +0100, Kneops a écrit : >> Well,

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-03 Thread Emanuele Olivetti
Terry said it better than whatever I was attempting to write. Totally agree with him and kudos to all Devs. Emanuele On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, 23:44 Terry Pinfold wrote: > A raw file has no sharpening applied by the camera. When you open a raw > file in programs like Adobe's Lightroom they

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Terry Pinfold
A raw file has no sharpening applied by the camera. When you open a raw file in programs like Adobe's Lightroom they automatically applied a level of sharpness which is usually the unsharp mask approach. Darktable leaves all of these adjustments to the users discretion. When you open a raw image

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Pascal Obry
Le mardi 02 février 2021 à 19:34 +0100, Kneops a écrit : > Well, I think I started this kind of 'topic' several times, because > this is also my experience with using DT for a few years and one of > the big reasons why I'm using LR for now (shame shame). This sounds really like a troll

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread darktable
On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 16:25:37 +0100 Victor wrote: > I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 > with both DT and RT using minimal intervention (see attached DT xmp > file and RT pp3 file). As you can see from the details I enclosed > in this message the RT resulting image

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread KOVÁCS István
The darktable image is darker. Perceived sharpness also depends on contrast. RawTherapee can apply a bunch of tricks (capture sharpening, dual demosaicing) that darktable cannot do (dual demosaicing is on the master branch, though). I see some CA in the darktable JPG that I don't see on the one

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Bernhard
Bernhard schrieb am 02.02.21 um 19:54: Victor schrieb am 02.02.21 um 16:25: I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 with both DT and RT using minimal intervention (see attached DT xmp file and RT pp3 file). As you can see from the details I enclosed in this

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Bernhard
Victor schrieb am 02.02.21 um 16:25: I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 with both DT and RT using minimal intervention (see attached DT xmp file and RT pp3 file). As you can see from the details I enclosed in this message the RT resulting image looks by far

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Willy Williams
I find that if I need to denoise and/or sharpen, I'll get great results by using Topaz DeNoise AI followed by Topaz Sharpen AI before pulling the results into darktable for final finish work. Willy On 2/2/2021 at 12:36, Giulio wrote: Il 02/02/21

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Kneops
Well, I think I started this kind of 'topic' several times, because this is also my experience with using DT for a few years and one of the big reasons why I'm using LR for now (shame shame). I always try a new DT version for a reason to switch back, but LR sharpness is better and much easier

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Giulio
Il 02/02/21 16:25, Victor ha scritto: I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 with both DT and RT using minimal intervention (see attached DT xmp file and RT pp3 file). As you can see from the details I enclosed in this message the RT resulting image looks by far better

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Victor [02-02-21 10:29]: > I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 with both DT > and RT using minimal intervention (see attached DT xmp file and RT pp3 > file). As you can see from the details I enclosed in this message the RT > resulting image looks by far better in

Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Martin Straeten
don't expect darktable to do the stuff automagicly for you - there're a couple of modules to tweak sharpness - but it is up to you to make use of them... Am Di., 2. Feb. 2021 um 16:26 Uhr schrieb Victor : > I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 with both > DT and RT

[darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?

2021-02-02 Thread Victor
I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 with both DT and RT using minimal intervention (see attached DT xmp file and RT pp3 file). As you can see from the details I enclosed in this message the RT resulting image looks by far better in terms of sharpness with respect to