Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
On 24/04/2023 03:06, Terry Pinfold wrote: "that you follow m$ *only* shows your age, not your wisdom." Maybe this passive aggressiveness on your part also chased me away. Well, this is a question of perception. I, German, working for an Indian company, am learning that every day, I'm probably perceived as (one of) the most rude guy in the account. But I try to improve (*). But beside perception, there's something called "facts". And, sorry to say, Patrick is right, you are not. TOFU quoting was invented by Microsoft, way too late, when other standards were already implemented and followed. The fact that most Outlook users don't know better (again, I know what I'm talking about), does not change that. Actually, with a little bit of experience in IT, all alarms should fire if you follow some rule just because MS has established it. By the way: For sure, Microsoft will have a standard product to replace darktable. Better go for that. (* Yes, I failed again, I know...) Best regards, Michael -- Michael Staats michael.sta...@gmx.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
On lundi 24 avril 2023 03:06:45 CEST Terry Pinfold wrote: > "that you follow m$ *only* shows your age, not your > wisdom." > > Maybe this passive aggressiveness on your part also chased me away. > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 11:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote: (snip) Maybe, but Patrick is right in that bottom posting is an accepted standard, and not just in email (usenet had the same rules). But snipping of irrelevant material is also part of the netiquette... And the aim of those "rules" is to make understanding of the message easier (not necessarily the reading, there's a difference). And, related to Michael's parallel answer, MS has a habit of implementing standards in its own way, (often) in a way that's not compatible with other implementations. Remco darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
The beauty of dicuss pixels is it bottom posts. Therefore I cause no offence there. My comments are not welcome here so I wish you all good luck supporting DT through this forum. I just explained why I moved on. Not sure why my age and wisdom had to be attacked here,but it was. On Mon, 24 Apr 2023, 21:59 Jean-Luc, wrote: > Le 24/04/2023 à 11:15, Remco Viëtor a écrit : > > On lundi 24 avril 2023 03:06:45 CEST Terry Pinfold wrote: > >> "that you follow m$ *only* shows your age, not your > >> wisdom." > >> > >> Maybe this passive aggressiveness on your part also chased me away. > >> > >> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 11:01, Patrick Shanahan > wrote: > > (snip) > > > > Maybe, but Patrick is right in that bottom posting is an accepted > standard, > > and not just in email (usenet had the same rules). > > But snipping of irrelevant material is also part of the netiquette... > +1 > > And the aim of those "rules" is to make understanding of the message > easier > > (not necessarily the reading, there's a difference). > +1 > > And, related to Michael's parallel answer, MS has a habit of implementing > > standards in its own way, (often) in a way that's not compatible with > other > > implementations. > > +1 > > Rgrds, > > J.-Luc > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
Le 24/04/2023 à 11:15, Remco Viëtor a écrit : On lundi 24 avril 2023 03:06:45 CEST Terry Pinfold wrote: "that you follow m$ *only* shows your age, not your wisdom." Maybe this passive aggressiveness on your part also chased me away. On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 11:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote: (snip) Maybe, but Patrick is right in that bottom posting is an accepted standard, and not just in email (usenet had the same rules). But snipping of irrelevant material is also part of the netiquette... +1 And the aim of those "rules" is to make understanding of the message easier (not necessarily the reading, there's a difference). +1 And, related to Michael's parallel answer, MS has a habit of implementing standards in its own way, (often) in a way that's not compatible with other implementations. +1 Rgrds, J.-Luc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
Le 24/04/2023 à 11:00, Michael Staats a écrit : On 24/04/2023 03:06, Terry Pinfold wrote: "that you follow m$ *only* shows your age, not your wisdom." Maybe this passive aggressiveness on your part also chased me away. [.../...] But beside perception, there's something called "facts". And, sorry to say, Patrick is right, you are not. TOFU quoting was invented by Microsoft, way too late, when other standards were already implemented and followed. The fact that most Outlook users don't know better (again, I know what I'm talking about), does not change that. Actually, with a little bit of experience in IT, all alarms should fire if you follow some rule just because MS has established it. +1 By the way: For sure, Microsoft will have a standard product to replace darktable. Better go for that. Rgrds, J.-Luc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable-users list, fewer postings?
On 24/04/2023 14:57, Terry Pinfold wrote: The beauty of dicuss pixels is it bottom posts. Therefore I cause no offence there. My comments are not welcome here so I wish you all good luck supporting DT through this forum. I just explained why I moved on. Not sure why my age and wisdom had to be attacked here,but it was. Hi Terry I do not think it was "attacked". Age was mentioned since it seems you do not know the history, and wisdom was challenged, since you seem to assume that all you know (your way of quoting) is the "right" way, ignoring the history, and assuming that Microsoft has any authority to define this. Having that said, I find it sad that such formal arguments are the reason for posting to this list or not. With a little bit of extra effort to accept both worlds, it should be possible to co-exist. The contents should matter. And it cannot be denied that the "business world" is adhering to their god (Microsoft). Bad, and we should try better in a world which is not under their influnce, but we should know that the other world exists, and tolerate. Even Internet RFCs follow the robustness principle: "be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others". (And, by the way, Patrick's excessive full quotes on top with one sentence on the bottom are also not helpful, and not the idea of "proper" quoting). Regards, Michael -- Michael Staats michael.sta...@gmx.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
